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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:25:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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On Jun 22, 9:56 am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:51:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:





"Jim24242" wrote in message
...

There is a plug in tester at camping world that seems to offer all
the
informatiom you need. Voltage Frequency Amps and polarity. It
didn't say
how many amps though. One thing though. Ant testing you do should
be at
the power pedestal BEFORE you hook your camper to it. That means
you need
to use an adapter to convert from a 30A receptacle to a 15A
receptacle.

The only problem with that .... John ... pay attention..... is that
if
the RV site's wiring or power is lacking, it will not show a voltage
droop
with any load. In other words, the voltage may read 120vac under no
load,
but after he plugs in and fires up the AC it might droop. He can
find out
by measuring the voltage before he hooks up and then again with the
AC
running at any 120vac outlet in his camper, assuming it is not
powered by a
converter. Usually the microwave and the AC are not run through the
converter, so either of the power sources inside the camper could be
checked.

The voltage at the remote power setup I had in Florida used to droop
to
105vac on some days. Bad for the AC compressor. That's why I bought
the
buck/boost transformer.

That's a good point - didn't think of that.

It's all about the load baby.

If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage
drops
at another 120 Vac receptacle right?

I'm sure somebody ha a device out there that you can load test a
voltage drop. like you plug the thing in, hit a button and watch to
see if the source electrical devices will hold current at the
acceptable breaker amperage.

The same thing I do with my Snap-on AVM tester. obsolete with the
carbon piles etc, but it will truly tell you what batteries and
charging systems are made out of.

I've got one of these on my wish list now.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-monitor/24900
--

John H


Great...then all you'll need is a competent person to operate it for
you.


That leaves out him calling you.


You're quite a 'wit' there, Kalif Bill.
Think I liked you better when you were drinking.


Just because you and your son are serious alcohol consumers, does not mean I
am. Maybe if you did not buy so much beer, you could afford to drive the
Rav4 more.

Calif Bill wrote:
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:25:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 22, 9:56 am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:51:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:





"Jim24242" wrote in message
...
There is a plug in tester at camping world that seems to offer all
the
informatiom you need. Voltage Frequency Amps and polarity. It
didn't say
how many amps though. One thing though. Ant testing you do should
be at
the power pedestal BEFORE you hook your camper to it. That means
you need
to use an adapter to convert from a 30A receptacle to a 15A
receptacle.
The only problem with that .... John ... pay attention..... is that
if
the RV site's wiring or power is lacking, it will not show a voltage
droop
with any load. In other words, the voltage may read 120vac under no
load,
but after he plugs in and fires up the AC it might droop. He can
find out
by measuring the voltage before he hooks up and then again with the
AC
running at any 120vac outlet in his camper, assuming it is not
powered by a
converter. Usually the microwave and the AC are not run through the
converter, so either of the power sources inside the camper could be
checked.
The voltage at the remote power setup I had in Florida used to droop
to
105vac on some days. Bad for the AC compressor. That's why I bought
the
buck/boost transformer.
That's a good point - didn't think of that.

It's all about the load baby.

If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage
drops
at another 120 Vac receptacle right?
I'm sure somebody ha a device out there that you can load test a
voltage drop. like you plug the thing in, hit a button and watch to
see if the source electrical devices will hold current at the
acceptable breaker amperage.

The same thing I do with my Snap-on AVM tester. obsolete with the
carbon piles etc, but it will truly tell you what batteries and
charging systems are made out of.
I've got one of these on my wish list now.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-monitor/24900
--

John H

Great...then all you'll need is a competent person to operate it for
you.

That leaves out him calling you.

You're quite a 'wit' there, Kalif Bill.
Think I liked you better when you were drinking.


Just because you and your son are serious alcohol consumers, does not mean I
am. Maybe if you did not buy so much beer, you could afford to drive the
Rav4 more.


That's a touchy subject up there in the Maritimes. They don't like being
told that they are Alkies. They prefer to think of themselves as social
drinkers. My apologies to the exceptions.

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:28:05 -0400, Jim2424242
wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news "Don White" wrote in message
...
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:25:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 22, 9:56 am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:51:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:





"Jim24242" wrote in message
...
There is a plug in tester at camping world that seems to offer all
the
informatiom you need. Voltage Frequency Amps and polarity. It
didn't say
how many amps though. One thing though. Ant testing you do should
be at
the power pedestal BEFORE you hook your camper to it. That means
you need
to use an adapter to convert from a 30A receptacle to a 15A
receptacle.
The only problem with that .... John ... pay attention..... is that
if
the RV site's wiring or power is lacking, it will not show a voltage
droop
with any load. In other words, the voltage may read 120vac under no
load,
but after he plugs in and fires up the AC it might droop. He can
find out
by measuring the voltage before he hooks up and then again with the
AC
running at any 120vac outlet in his camper, assuming it is not
powered by a
converter. Usually the microwave and the AC are not run through the
converter, so either of the power sources inside the camper could be
checked.
The voltage at the remote power setup I had in Florida used to droop
to
105vac on some days. Bad for the AC compressor. That's why I bought
the
buck/boost transformer.
That's a good point - didn't think of that.

It's all about the load baby.

If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage
drops
at another 120 Vac receptacle right?
I'm sure somebody ha a device out there that you can load test a
voltage drop. like you plug the thing in, hit a button and watch to
see if the source electrical devices will hold current at the
acceptable breaker amperage.

The same thing I do with my Snap-on AVM tester. obsolete with the
carbon piles etc, but it will truly tell you what batteries and
charging systems are made out of.
I've got one of these on my wish list now.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-monitor/24900
--

John H

Great...then all you'll need is a competent person to operate it for
you.

That leaves out him calling you.

You're quite a 'wit' there, Kalif Bill.
Think I liked you better when you were drinking.


Just because you and your son are serious alcohol consumers, does not mean I
am. Maybe if you did not buy so much beer, you could afford to drive the
Rav4 more.


That's a touchy subject up there in the Maritimes. They don't like being
told that they are Alkies. They prefer to think of themselves as social
drinkers. My apologies to the exceptions.

I saw a post to the 'Travel trailer air conditioner' thread and
looked, only to see it was now about the alkies in Nova Scotia. I
wondered why. Then I saw that Donnie had not heeded my advice to STFU
so he wouldn't appear to be so stupid.

But...

"John H" wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:28:05 -0400, Jim2424242
wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news "Don White" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:25:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 22, 9:56 am, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:51:00 -0400, "Eisboch"

wrote:





"Jim24242" wrote in message
...
There is a plug in tester at camping world that seems to offer
all
the
informatiom you need. Voltage Frequency Amps and polarity. It
didn't say
how many amps though. One thing though. Ant testing you do
should
be at
the power pedestal BEFORE you hook your camper to it. That means
you need
to use an adapter to convert from a 30A receptacle to a 15A
receptacle.
The only problem with that .... John ... pay attention..... is
that
if
the RV site's wiring or power is lacking, it will not show a
voltage
droop
with any load. In other words, the voltage may read 120vac under
no
load,
but after he plugs in and fires up the AC it might droop. He can
find out
by measuring the voltage before he hooks up and then again with
the
AC
running at any 120vac outlet in his camper, assuming it is not
powered by a
converter. Usually the microwave and the AC are not run through
the
converter, so either of the power sources inside the camper could
be
checked.
The voltage at the remote power setup I had in Florida used to
droop
to
105vac on some days. Bad for the AC compressor. That's why I
bought
the
buck/boost transformer.
That's a good point - didn't think of that.

It's all about the load baby.

If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage
drops
at another 120 Vac receptacle right?
I'm sure somebody ha a device out there that you can load test a
voltage drop. like you plug the thing in, hit a button and watch to
see if the source electrical devices will hold current at the
acceptable breaker amperage.

The same thing I do with my Snap-on AVM tester. obsolete with the
carbon piles etc, but it will truly tell you what batteries and
charging systems are made out of.
I've got one of these on my wish list now.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-monitor/24900
--

John H

Great...then all you'll need is a competent person to operate it for
you.

That leaves out him calling you.

You're quite a 'wit' there, Kalif Bill.
Think I liked you better when you were drinking.


Just because you and your son are serious alcohol consumers, does not
mean I
am. Maybe if you did not buy so much beer, you could afford to drive
the
Rav4 more.


That's a touchy subject up there in the Maritimes. They don't like being
told that they are Alkies. They prefer to think of themselves as social
drinkers. My apologies to the exceptions.

I saw a post to the 'Travel trailer air conditioner' thread and
looked, only to see it was now about the alkies in Nova Scotia. I
wondered why. Then I saw that Donnie had not heeded my advice to STFU
so he wouldn't appear to be so stupid.

But...



Your advice???? Doctor, heal theyself!

Don White wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:28:05 -0400, Jim2424242
wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news "Don White" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:25:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 22, 9:56 am, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:51:00 -0400, "Eisboch"

wrote:





"Jim24242" wrote in message
...
There is a plug in tester at camping world that seems to offer
all
the
informatiom you need. Voltage Frequency Amps and polarity. It
didn't say
how many amps though. One thing though. Ant testing you do
should
be at
the power pedestal BEFORE you hook your camper to it. That means
you need
to use an adapter to convert from a 30A receptacle to a 15A
receptacle.
The only problem with that .... John ... pay attention..... is
that
if
the RV site's wiring or power is lacking, it will not show a
voltage
droop
with any load. In other words, the voltage may read 120vac under
no
load,
but after he plugs in and fires up the AC it might droop. He can
find out
by measuring the voltage before he hooks up and then again with
the
AC
running at any 120vac outlet in his camper, assuming it is not
powered by a
converter. Usually the microwave and the AC are not run through
the
converter, so either of the power sources inside the camper could
be
checked.
The voltage at the remote power setup I had in Florida used to
droop
to
105vac on some days. Bad for the AC compressor. That's why I
bought
the
buck/boost transformer.
That's a good point - didn't think of that.

It's all about the load baby.

If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage
drops
at another 120 Vac receptacle right?
I'm sure somebody ha a device out there that you can load test a
voltage drop. like you plug the thing in, hit a button and watch to
see if the source electrical devices will hold current at the
acceptable breaker amperage.

The same thing I do with my Snap-on AVM tester. obsolete with the
carbon piles etc, but it will truly tell you what batteries and
charging systems are made out of.
I've got one of these on my wish list now.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-monitor/24900
--

John H

Great...then all you'll need is a competent person to operate it for
you.

That leaves out him calling you.

You're quite a 'wit' there, Kalif Bill.
Think I liked you better when you were drinking.

Just because you and your son are serious alcohol consumers, does not
mean I
am. Maybe if you did not buy so much beer, you could afford to drive
the
Rav4 more.


That's a touchy subject up there in the Maritimes. They don't like being
told that they are Alkies. They prefer to think of themselves as social
drinkers. My apologies to the exceptions.
I saw a post to the 'Travel trailer air conditioner' thread and
looked, only to see it was now about the alkies in Nova Scotia. I
wondered why. Then I saw that Donnie had not heeded my advice to STFU
so he wouldn't appear to be so stupid.

But...



Your advice???? Doctor, heal theyself!



Herring is going to electrocute himself someday messing around with
'lectricity in that little coffin of a trailer.

"Jim2424242" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news "Don White" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:25:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 22, 9:56 am, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:51:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:





"Jim24242" wrote in message
...
There is a plug in tester at camping world that seems to offer
all the
informatiom you need. Voltage Frequency Amps and polarity. It
didn't say
how many amps though. One thing though. Ant testing you do should
be at
the power pedestal BEFORE you hook your camper to it. That means
you need
to use an adapter to convert from a 30A receptacle to a 15A
receptacle.
The only problem with that .... John ... pay attention..... is
that if
the RV site's wiring or power is lacking, it will not show a
voltage droop
with any load. In other words, the voltage may read 120vac under
no load,
but after he plugs in and fires up the AC it might droop. He can
find out
by measuring the voltage before he hooks up and then again with
the AC
running at any 120vac outlet in his camper, assuming it is not
powered by a
converter. Usually the microwave and the AC are not run through
the
converter, so either of the power sources inside the camper could
be
checked.
The voltage at the remote power setup I had in Florida used to
droop to
105vac on some days. Bad for the AC compressor. That's why I
bought the
buck/boost transformer.
That's a good point - didn't think of that.

It's all about the load baby.

If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage
drops
at another 120 Vac receptacle right?
I'm sure somebody ha a device out there that you can load test a
voltage drop. like you plug the thing in, hit a button and watch to
see if the source electrical devices will hold current at the
acceptable breaker amperage.

The same thing I do with my Snap-on AVM tester. obsolete with the
carbon piles etc, but it will truly tell you what batteries and
charging systems are made out of.
I've got one of these on my wish list now.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-monitor/24900
--

John H

Great...then all you'll need is a competent person to operate it for
you.

That leaves out him calling you.

You're quite a 'wit' there, Kalif Bill.
Think I liked you better when you were drinking.


Just because you and your son are serious alcohol consumers, does not
mean I am. Maybe if you did not buy so much beer, you could afford to
drive the Rav4 more.
That's a touchy subject up there in the Maritimes. They don't like being
told that they are Alkies. They prefer to think of themselves as social
drinkers. My apologies to the exceptions.

My driving through Canada (Western) a couple years ago, I see why he can not
afford to drive the Rav4 much. Booze is expensive up there.

On Jun 27, 2:08*am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Jim2424242" wrote in message

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Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
.. .
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news "Don White" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:25:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 22, 9:56 am, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:51:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Jim24242" wrote in message
.. .
There is a plug in tester at camping world that seems to offer
all the
informatiom you need. Voltage Frequency Amps and polarity. It
didn't say
how many amps though. One thing though. Ant testing you do should
be at
the power pedestal BEFORE you hook your camper to it. That means
you need
to use an adapter to convert from a 30A receptacle to a 15A
receptacle.
The only problem with that .... John ... pay attention..... is
that if
the RV site's wiring or power is lacking, it will not show a
voltage droop
with any load. In other words, the voltage may read 120vac under
no load,
but after he plugs in and fires up the AC it might droop. He can
find out
by measuring the voltage before he hooks up and then again with
the AC
running at any 120vac outlet in his camper, assuming it is not
powered by a
converter. Usually the microwave and the AC are not run through
the
converter, so either of the power sources inside the camper could
be
checked.
The voltage at the remote power setup I had in Florida used to
droop to
105vac on some days. Bad for the AC compressor. That's why I
bought the
buck/boost transformer.
That's a good point - didn't think of that.

It's all about the load baby.

If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage
drops
at another 120 Vac receptacle right?
I'm sure somebody ha a device out there that you can load test a
voltage drop. like you plug the thing in, hit a button and watch to
see if the source electrical devices will hold current at the
acceptable breaker amperage.

The same thing I do with my Snap-on AVM tester. obsolete with the
carbon piles etc, but it will truly tell you what batteries and
charging systems are made out of.
I've got one of these on my wish list now.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-monitor/24900
--

John H

Great...then all you'll need is a competent person to operate it for
you.

That leaves out him calling you.

You're quite a 'wit' there, Kalif Bill.
Think I liked you better when you were drinking.

Just because you and your son are serious alcohol consumers, does not
mean I am. *Maybe if you did not buy so much beer, you could afford to
drive the Rav4 more.
That's a touchy subject up there in the Maritimes. They don't like being
told that they are Alkies. They prefer to think of themselves as social
drinkers. My apologies to the exceptions.

My driving through Canada (Western) a couple years ago, I see why he can not
afford to drive the Rav4 much. *Booze is expensive up there.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe he's finally realized he's driving a chick car!!!

On Jun 25, 2:12*am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news

"Don White" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:25:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 22, 9:56 am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:51:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Jim24242" wrote in message
...

There is a plug in tester at camping world that seems to offer all
the
informatiom you need. Voltage Frequency Amps and polarity. It
didn't say
how many amps though. One thing though. Ant testing you do should
be at
the power pedestal BEFORE you hook your camper to it. That means
you need
to use an adapter to convert from a 30A receptacle to a 15A
receptacle.

The only problem with that .... John ... pay attention..... is that
if
the RV site's wiring or power is lacking, it will not show a voltage
droop
with any load. In other words, the voltage may read 120vac under no
load,
but after he plugs in and fires up the AC it might droop. He can
find out
by measuring the voltage before he hooks up and then again with the
AC
running at any 120vac outlet in his camper, assuming it is not
powered by a
converter. Usually the microwave and the AC are not run through the
converter, so either of the power sources inside the camper could be
checked.

The voltage at the remote power setup I had in Florida used to droop
to
105vac on some days. Bad for the AC compressor. That's why I bought
the
buck/boost transformer.

That's a good point - didn't think of that.

It's all about the load baby.

If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage
drops
at another 120 Vac receptacle right?

I'm sure somebody ha a device out there that you can load test a
voltage drop. like you plug the thing in, hit a button and watch to
see if the source electrical devices will hold current at the
acceptable breaker amperage.

The same thing I do with my Snap-on AVM tester. obsolete with the
carbon piles etc, but it will truly tell you what batteries and
charging systems are made out of.

I've got one of these on my wish list now.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-monitor/24900
--

John H

Great...then all you'll need is a competent person to operate it for
you.

That leaves out him calling you.

You're quite a 'wit' there, Kalif Bill.
Think I liked you better when you were drinking.

Just because you and your son are serious alcohol consumers, does not mean I
am. *Maybe if you did not buy so much beer, you could afford to drive the
Rav4 more.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe he's finally figured out that the RAV4 is a chick car and
doesn't want to be seen in it!!! Been doing any fishing lately?

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...


Just because you and your son are serious alcohol consumers, does not mean
I am. Maybe if you did not buy so much beer, you could afford to drive
the Rav4 more.


It's fun to see just how wrong some characters can be in here.
I can't remember the last time I bought beer or liquor...maybe Christmas.
Out of the 24 case I received for Fathers Day....I drank 2... maybe 3.
Your daily bottle of cheap wine would equal a season of consumption to me.
Drink up!

On Jun 25, 9:05*am, "Don White" wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

m...



Just because you and your son are serious alcohol consumers, does not mean
I am. *Maybe if you did not buy so much beer, you could afford to drive
the Rav4 more.

It's fun to see just how wrong *some characters can be in here.
I can't remember the last time I bought beer or liquor...maybe Christmas.
Out of the 24 case I received for Fathers Day....I drank 2... maybe 3.
Your daily bottle of cheap wine would equal a season of consumption to me..
Drink up!

Yep, we understand! Your son brought you beer for Father's Day,
knowing that he and his brother would drink it all, leaving you 2.