On May 9, 2:19*pm, jps wrote:
On Sat, 9 May 2009 15:15:36 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:





"jps" wrote in message
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On Sat, 9 May 2009 11:30:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews...54815320090509

Herr Krause. * It looks like another fallen angel from your *dream
team*

Hate to tell you but he was a holdover from the Bush administration.

Figures.

Actually no. *He is a holdover from the Clinton administration.

Eisboch

You're a little late to the parade. *But thanks.

And you were the first to proverbially "jump the gun" and you're
welcome.

On Sat, 9 May 2009 15:14:54 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
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wrote:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews...54815320090509


Herr Krause. It looks like another fallen angel from your *dream
team*

Just another scape goat for Dear Leader Obama's mis-adventures.



This is great. When the "flyover" took place, the person or persons who
authorized it were not specifically identified. Their identity was a bit
hazy. The way the media presented it, it appeared to be a military
decision.

But now, the truth be known, the person was Louis Caldera, an Obama
appointee. Since 2001, Caldera has worked in higher education, first as a
vice chancellor for the California State University system and later as
president of the University of New Mexico. He is a tenured professor at the
University of New Mexico School of Law.

I am thinking his academic credentials are missing a few courses in common
sense. Worse, his resignation letter states that the "controversy"
surrounding his authorization of the fly-over prevents him from doing his
job.

The fact that he screwed up royally doesn't seem to occur to him.

Eisboch

Jesus, whatever serves your partisan purpose Richard. Will you be
joining Hannity in "Dijongate: Obama orders burger with foreign,
elitist mustard?"

Read the real facts and understand that Caldera was the fall guy for
the idiots at the Pentagon.


CBS in New York reports that the Pentagon knew its photo-op flyover
above Manhattan would raise “public concern” and frighten New Yorkers
but pulled off the stunt anyway. “Federal officials knew that sending
two fighter jets and Air Force One to buzz ground zero and Lady
Liberty might set off nightmarish fears of a 9/11 replay, but they
still ordered the photo-op kept secret from the public,” reports
Marcia Kramer WCBS TV.

In a memo obtained by the television station, “Federal Aviation
Administration’s James Johnston said the agency was aware of ‘the
possibility of public concern regarding DOD (Department of Defense)
aircraft flying at low altitudes’ in and around New York City. But
they demanded total secrecy from the NYPD, the Secret Service, the FBI
and even the mayor’s office and threatened federal sanctions if the
secret got out.”

“Did it show an insensitivity to the psychic wounds New York City has
after 9/11? Absolutely. No questions about it. It was quite
insensitive,” NYPD Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said.

Obama was out of the loop and forced to engage in damage control. “It
was a mistake. It will never happen again,” he said. Obama has ordered
an internal review of Monday’s low-flying photo op over the Statue of
Liberty.

"jps" wrote in message
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On Sat, 9 May 2009 15:14:54 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
...
wrote:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews...54815320090509


Herr Krause. It looks like another fallen angel from your *dream
team*

Just another scape goat for Dear Leader Obama's mis-adventures.



This is great. When the "flyover" took place, the person or persons who
authorized it were not specifically identified. Their identity was a bit
hazy. The way the media presented it, it appeared to be a military
decision.

But now, the truth be known, the person was Louis Caldera, an Obama
appointee. Since 2001, Caldera has worked in higher education, first as a
vice chancellor for the California State University system and later as
president of the University of New Mexico. He is a tenured professor at
the
University of New Mexico School of Law.

I am thinking his academic credentials are missing a few courses in common
sense. Worse, his resignation letter states that the "controversy"
surrounding his authorization of the fly-over prevents him from doing his
job.

The fact that he screwed up royally doesn't seem to occur to him.

Eisboch

Jesus, whatever serves your partisan purpose Richard. Will you be
joining Hannity in "Dijongate: Obama orders burger with foreign,
elitist mustard?"

Read the real facts and understand that Caldera was the fall guy for
the idiots at the Pentagon.


CBS in New York reports that the Pentagon knew its photo-op flyover
above Manhattan would raise "public concern" and frighten New Yorkers
but pulled off the stunt anyway. "Federal officials knew that sending
two fighter jets and Air Force One to buzz ground zero and Lady
Liberty might set off nightmarish fears of a 9/11 replay, but they
still ordered the photo-op kept secret from the public," reports
Marcia Kramer WCBS TV.

In a memo obtained by the television station, "Federal Aviation
Administration's James Johnston said the agency was aware of 'the
possibility of public concern regarding DOD (Department of Defense)
aircraft flying at low altitudes' in and around New York City. But
they demanded total secrecy from the NYPD, the Secret Service, the FBI
and even the mayor's office and threatened federal sanctions if the
secret got out."

"Did it show an insensitivity to the psychic wounds New York City has
after 9/11? Absolutely. No questions about it. It was quite
insensitive," NYPD Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said.

Obama was out of the loop and forced to engage in damage control. "It
was a mistake. It will never happen again," he said. Obama has ordered
an internal review of Monday's low-flying photo op over the Statue of
Liberty.



Yada, yada, yada. *WHO* arranged and authorized it????

Eisboch

On Sat, 9 May 2009 15:37:24 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 9 May 2009 15:14:54 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
...
wrote:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews...54815320090509


Herr Krause. It looks like another fallen angel from your *dream
team*

Just another scape goat for Dear Leader Obama's mis-adventures.



This is great. When the "flyover" took place, the person or persons who
authorized it were not specifically identified. Their identity was a bit
hazy. The way the media presented it, it appeared to be a military
decision.

But now, the truth be known, the person was Louis Caldera, an Obama
appointee. Since 2001, Caldera has worked in higher education, first as a
vice chancellor for the California State University system and later as
president of the University of New Mexico. He is a tenured professor at
the
University of New Mexico School of Law.

I am thinking his academic credentials are missing a few courses in common
sense. Worse, his resignation letter states that the "controversy"
surrounding his authorization of the fly-over prevents him from doing his
job.

The fact that he screwed up royally doesn't seem to occur to him.

Eisboch

Jesus, whatever serves your partisan purpose Richard. Will you be
joining Hannity in "Dijongate: Obama orders burger with foreign,
elitist mustard?"

Read the real facts and understand that Caldera was the fall guy for
the idiots at the Pentagon.


CBS in New York reports that the Pentagon knew its photo-op flyover
above Manhattan would raise "public concern" and frighten New Yorkers
but pulled off the stunt anyway. "Federal officials knew that sending
two fighter jets and Air Force One to buzz ground zero and Lady
Liberty might set off nightmarish fears of a 9/11 replay, but they
still ordered the photo-op kept secret from the public," reports
Marcia Kramer WCBS TV.

In a memo obtained by the television station, "Federal Aviation
Administration's James Johnston said the agency was aware of 'the
possibility of public concern regarding DOD (Department of Defense)
aircraft flying at low altitudes' in and around New York City. But
they demanded total secrecy from the NYPD, the Secret Service, the FBI
and even the mayor's office and threatened federal sanctions if the
secret got out."

"Did it show an insensitivity to the psychic wounds New York City has
after 9/11? Absolutely. No questions about it. It was quite
insensitive," NYPD Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said.

Obama was out of the loop and forced to engage in damage control. "It
was a mistake. It will never happen again," he said. Obama has ordered
an internal review of Monday's low-flying photo op over the Statue of
Liberty.



Yada, yada, yada. *WHO* arranged and authorized it????

Eisboch

Clearly it was a mistake. The guy who's head rolled was likely the
least guilty, as is often the case.

It's common practice to make publicity photos available, been done
plenty of times before.

That the DOD wouldn't allow people to be notified should have
triggered the failsafe button somewhere along the chain of command but
it didn't.

And the poor schmuck who's balls got caught in the vice paid the
price.

Just like the poor schmucks who were guards at Abu Ghraib who did the
time instead of Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush.

Let's see, torture of prisoners vs. a flyover. Grasping at straws are
we?

Yadda yadda is right.

On Sat, 9 May 2009 12:31:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On May 9, 2:19*pm, jps wrote:
On Sat, 9 May 2009 15:15:36 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:





"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 9 May 2009 11:30:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews...54815320090509

Herr Krause. * It looks like another fallen angel from your *dream
team*

Hate to tell you but he was a holdover from the Bush administration.

Figures.

Actually no. *He is a holdover from the Clinton administration.

Eisboch

You're a little late to the parade. *But thanks.

And you were the first to proverbially "jump the gun" and you're
welcome.

Is your name Eisboch?

On Sat, 9 May 2009 15:18:50 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 09 May 2009 14:50:49 -0400, BAR wrote:

wrote:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews...54815320090509


Herr Krause. It looks like another fallen angel from your *dream
team*

Just another scape goat for Dear Leader Obama's mis-adventures.

As if Obama ordered the flyover.



Obama was his boss. The buck stops here. Or, at least it did for Bush.
Obama is different, huh?


Eisboch

He apologized and said it was a mistake. Bush never apologized or
admitted to a mistake in his 8 years.

WTF do Republicans care about scaring the **** out of a bunch of
liberals in NY anyway?

I'm sure most R's were relishing the thought.

On Sat, 09 May 2009 12:33:06 -0700, jps wrote:

Jesus, whatever serves your partisan purpose Richard. Will you be
joining Hannity in "Dijongate: Obama orders burger with foreign,
elitist mustard?"

That's funny. Did Hannity call it Dijongate?
I quit watching him. He's too much like a parrot.
As I recall Obama had a problem ordering a Philly steak
sandwich too. Can't remember the details.
Good for me.
Yuppie politicians should remember 3 words when they order food
with the camera on. "Gimme the works."
If the food server asks anything, *anything* to that
you just say "What is it you don't understand about the works?"
Then if you take a bite and want to puke, or your mouth catches on
fire, you say "Hey, wrap this up for me. I'm gonna take it home and
give some to Michelle and the girls. They'll love it."
Problem solved. Everybody thinks you're a square guy, a family man,
and frugal too.

--Vic

On Sat, 09 May 2009 15:31:10 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 09 May 2009 12:33:06 -0700, jps wrote:

Jesus, whatever serves your partisan purpose Richard. Will you be
joining Hannity in "Dijongate: Obama orders burger with foreign,
elitist mustard?"

That's funny. Did Hannity call it Dijongate?
I quit watching him. He's too much like a parrot.
As I recall Obama had a problem ordering a Philly steak
sandwich too. Can't remember the details.
Good for me.
Yuppie politicians should remember 3 words when they order food
with the camera on. "Gimme the works."
If the food server asks anything, *anything* to that
you just say "What is it you don't understand about the works?"
Then if you take a bite and want to puke, or your mouth catches on
fire, you say "Hey, wrap this up for me. I'm gonna take it home and
give some to Michelle and the girls. They'll love it."
Problem solved. Everybody thinks you're a square guy, a family man,
and frugal too.

--Vic

I'm responsible for Dijongate. Didn't quite get there but dang close.
Funny thing is that many burger officanados say that mustard, dijon or
otherwise, is a proper condiment and ketchup is for kids.

Hannity damned near made it into a breach of national security, right
next to Freedom Fries in the historical (hysterical) record.

I think your approach is good but the guy is just trying to get fed in
the way he likes it. Don't blame him for ordering what he wants.

The funniest part is that the place they were at had condiments that
could have registered 10 on the elitist-sounding scale. I just thank
God he didn't ask for any of them! Hannity would have soiled himself.

Eisboch wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
...
wrote:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews...54815320090509


Herr Krause. It looks like another fallen angel from your *dream
team*

Just another scape goat for Dear Leader Obama's mis-adventures.



This is great. When the "flyover" took place, the person or persons
who authorized it were not specifically identified. Their identity was
a bit hazy. The way the media presented it, it appeared to be a
military decision.

But now, the truth be known, the person was Louis Caldera, an Obama
appointee. Since 2001, Caldera has worked in higher education, first as
a vice chancellor for the California State University system and later
as president of the University of New Mexico. He is a tenured professor
at the University of New Mexico School of Law.

I am thinking his academic credentials are missing a few courses in
common sense. Worse, his resignation letter states that the
"controversy" surrounding his authorization of the fly-over prevents him
from doing his job.

The fact that he screwed up royally doesn't seem to occur to him.

Eisboch


He screwed up, he got fired. No "good job, Brownie" for him. :)

On Sat, 09 May 2009 13:54:51 -0700, jps wrote:


I'm responsible for Dijongate. Didn't quite get there but dang close.
Funny thing is that many burger officanados say that mustard, dijon or
otherwise, is a proper condiment and ketchup is for kids.

I don't care what anybody eats on their burgers. I put mustard on
mine. Prefer it with horseradish, but any kind will do.
Dijon is good. Don't care for catsup.

Hannity damned near made it into a breach of national security, right
next to Freedom Fries in the historical (hysterical) record.

I think your approach is good but the guy is just trying to get fed in
the way he likes it. Don't blame him for ordering what he wants.

I'm sure he can get anything he wants, however he wants it, cooked up
at the White House. On our tab.
The Philly thing got him though. Best to know local customs.
Or say "Gimme the works."
Politics.

The funniest part is that the place they were at had condiments that
could have registered 10 on the elitist-sounding scale. I just thank
God he didn't ask for any of them! Hannity would have soiled himself.

What, oregano? Always shake a little extra oregano and some parmesan
on my pizza. Grind some black pepper on there too, then sprinkle some
hot red pepper flakes. hmmmmmm.

--Vic