On May 7, 12:01*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 11:49:12 -0400, HK wrote:

a. the lousy, crustless, tasteless substance that was being passed off
as bread. No matter what sort of bread it was pretending to be, it had
the same sponginess and pretty much the same taste. Lousy rolls, too.
We found *one* deli in the entire Jax area that "imported" its bread
daily from Baltimore, and it was pretty good.

I've bought decent bread at Publix. *They bake on site. *French and
Italian. *Might be local practices. *Never found the ryes or black
breads we get baked locally here.
Selection is much better in Florida than it was 10-20 years ago.
I'm talking Charlotte Harbor area.

b. the high price of produce. I really thought we'd be paying a lot less
at the grocery store for produce. Nope.

My dad is always bitching about that.

--Vic

That's funny. I have not been following the thread but this post had
me thinking about our partner in Florida. He grew up here in CT until
he was in his 20's and he is now in his 40's and still complains about
the bread in Florida. Every time he visits he wants "CT" bread made
with local water, says he can tell the difference and hates his local
bread. He swears he can tell the difference in the beer too. Drinks
one mainstream brand down there, a competetors brew up here. (Both
cheap American beer).

On Thu, 7 May 2009 09:13:28 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On May 7, 9:41Â*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

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On Thu, 7 May 2009 09:02:24 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

Yeah I like to check out software apps. Â*I just looked at the Organizer
you
referenced. Â*I think that Outlook pretty much handles the stuff they have
to
offer, at least for my needs.

I take the view that what software I like on my PC is similar to my
view about pizza joints. Â*If you like it, stay with it.
Even more so with gyros. (-:

--Vic

Great analogy. The gyros here in Florida, especially Tarpon Springs, are the
OK. Â*The pizza, it sucks, big time. Â*About the only thing I miss from
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I don't like Chicago deep dish pizza, it ain't pizza, it's a
cassarole! Thin crust, brick oven, NY style!

Chicago style deep dish and stuffed is "relatively" new.
I eat it more often now that I'm in the burbs only because it's hard
to find a decent thin crust out here.
If I still lived near my favorite joint La Villa, I'd never touch a
fat pizza.
I grew up on thin crust, brick oven. In Chicago.
I've had pizza in NY. Main difference is probably the sausage.
Even how it's pieced/ground is a personal taste.
In NY pepperoni is preferred. At least when I lived there for a
while. I liked it. Except for the pepperoni.

--Vic

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On May 7, 9:41 am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

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On Thu, 7 May 2009 09:02:24 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

Yeah I like to check out software apps. I just looked at the Organizer
you
referenced. I think that Outlook pretty much handles the stuff they have
to
offer, at least for my needs.

I take the view that what software I like on my PC is similar to my
view about pizza joints. If you like it, stay with it.
Even more so with gyros. (-:

--Vic

Great analogy. The gyros here in Florida, especially Tarpon Springs, are
the
OK. The pizza, it sucks, big time. About the only thing I miss from
Chicago is the pizza from a mom and pop restaurant.- Hide quoted text -

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I don't like Chicago deep dish pizza, it ain't pizza, it's a
cassarole! Thin crust, brick oven, NY style!


Best pizzas I have ever had were in Naples, Italy. They rolled the dough
out, put on the sauce and fixings, saturated the top with olive oil then
stuck it in a big, brick oven with a wood fire in the back.
They were cooked for about 45 secs, pulled out, folded in half and served
with the oil dripping out all over the place.

Eisboch

On May 7, 12:28*pm, wrote:
On May 7, 12:01*pm, Vic Smith wrote:





On Thu, 07 May 2009 11:49:12 -0400, HK wrote:

a. the lousy, crustless, tasteless substance that was being passed off
as bread. No matter what sort of bread it was pretending to be, it had
the same sponginess and pretty much the same taste. Lousy rolls, too.
We found *one* deli in the entire Jax area that "imported" its bread
daily from Baltimore, and it was pretty good.

I've bought decent bread at Publix. *They bake on site. *French and
Italian. *Might be local practices. *Never found the ryes or black
breads we get baked locally here.
Selection is much better in Florida than it was 10-20 years ago.
I'm talking Charlotte Harbor area.

b. the high price of produce. I really thought we'd be paying a lot less
at the grocery store for produce. Nope.

My dad is always bitching about that.

--Vic

That's funny. I have not been following the thread but this post had
me thinking about our partner in Florida. He grew up here in CT until
he was in his 20's and he is now in his 40's and still complains about
the bread in Florida. Every time he visits he wants "CT" bread made
with local water, says he can tell the difference and hates his local
bread. He swears he can tell the difference in the beer too. Drinks
one mainstream brand down there, a competetors brew up here. (Both
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Oh, and since I started reading the thread, add pizza and grinders to
the things he hates about Fla and wants to have when he comes to CT...
Guess he is kind of picky, but he gets good eats. His wife is about
the best cook I know (with respect to Loogie, "of the cooks I have
sampled" ... Mostly South/SouthEast style cooking but she can do
almost anything good...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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I haven't found a place for a good "crusty" bread. In my area it's all
chain grocery stores and no dedicated bakeries.


We have a local Portuguese bakery up here and I am hooked on the sweet
bread. Have to be careful though. Tastes good, but adds to the waistline.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

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On Thu, 07 May 2009 11:22:20 -0400, D.Duck wrote:



His opinion was they cannot get the right cheese or sausage
down there. Too expensive to have it flown in from up there where
it's
readily available.

I thought it was the water. The local Florida bread leaves
something to
be desired also.


No question. Florida has much to offer, but the quality of the water
isn't one of them.

Eisboch


When you say "quality," are you referring to perceived taste or
contaminates or both? We had municipal water in NE Florida and I don't
recall it tasting funky.

It probably varies from local to local. The area we were in had
private, shallow wells and the water had a lot of sulfur and iron.
Everyone's well was equipped with an elaborate water conditioning system
to remove the iron and the sulfur stink. Even though we had a new,
undated system installed when we bought the house, we still used bottled
water for drinking and cooking. Couldn't get used to it.

Eisboch


Florida does seem to try to get away with minimalism. Our water pipe
from the city came from under the street and curb and was buried less
than 6" deep from the curb to where it entered the house. At some point,
the pipe from the main going under the curb and sidewalk broke, and a
month later we got a water bill for about a gazillion dollars. I whine,
moaned, bitched and finally got the water company to investigate. It
couldn't determine the cause of the break, so wanted to stick me with
the repair, too.

I actually had to go to a hearing to present my case, but I did win. The
break could have been caused by a heavy truck driving on the shoulder
too close to the curb, or any other reason that stressed the pipe.

We had shallow wells for lawn irrigation, but I'm told that practice has
been curtailed in many areas.

Eisboch wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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I haven't found a place for a good "crusty" bread. In my area it's
all chain grocery stores and no dedicated bakeries.


We have a local Portuguese bakery up here and I am hooked on the sweet
bread. Have to be careful though. Tastes good, but adds to the
waistline.

Eisboch


Relatives of sea-going Portuguese? We had a significant number of
Portuguese families in New Haven when I lived there, but most seemed to
come for the manufacturing jobs the area had at that time. Ever listen
to the Portuguese language? It's really pretty.

Nelly Furtado has songs out in Portuguese, btw.

On May 7, 8:24*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

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On Thu, 07 May 2009 05:59:28 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 06 May 2009 22:54:38 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

Anybody want to bet we'll never see a searchable index - you know, only
copies of PDF files that aren't searchable?

Have a look at some OCR (optical character recognition) software. *They
can make pdf files searchable. ;-)

I use the pdf search function all the time.
Adobe Reader 7.0. *It's free.
What am I missing?

--Vic

You might want to try Foxit. *Not near the resource hog that the Adobe pig
is.

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If you are editing PDF's Bluebeam is a good one.

On Thu, 7 May 2009 09:28:38 -0700 (PDT),
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That's funny. I have not been following the thread but this post had
me thinking about our partner in Florida. He grew up here in CT until
he was in his 20's and he is now in his 40's and still complains about
the bread in Florida. Every time he visits he wants "CT" bread made
with local water, says he can tell the difference and hates his local
bread. He swears he can tell the difference in the beer too. Drinks
one mainstream brand down there, a competetors brew up here. (Both
cheap American beer).

We eat mostly Polish rye, and have local Polish bakeries. Sometimes
French, more rarely Italian.
Never saw Polish rye in Florida. Mass-market Jewish rye, but not the
fresh Polish rye we take for granted here.
Plenty of Polaks down there in Florida, so like with the migrant pizza
makers you'd think they'd get it going.
Maybe it's the water, as your friend and others have said.
I do notice I don't care too much for the coffee when I'm down there.
Sure as hell won't keep me from moving there though.
Just a little worried about that Froggie guy rain dancing a hurricane
down on me. I'm a Yankee.

--Vic

On May 7, 12:13*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message

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On Thu, 07 May 2009 11:22:20 -0400, D.Duck wrote:

* His opinion was they cannot get the right cheese or sausage
down there. *Too expensive to have it flown in from up there where it's
readily available.

I thought it was the water. *The local Florida bread leaves something to
be desired also.

No question. *Florida has much to offer, but the quality of the water isn't
one of them.

Eisboch

Well, it depends where. Where I lived the water was excellent. Came
right out of the Florida Aquafer. There's a town outside of Tampa
called Crystal Springs, and the aquafer comes out the the ground
there, 72 degrees, and clear as can be. There's a local water company,
Zephyrhills water, that used to be privately owned but is now part of
Perrier.