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Now I want to see justice done. Those that lied us into this
catastrophe should be willing to face the full measure of what it
means to be nation of laws. It was among the things that Bush
promised us when he campaigned for the presidency.



I understand how you feel. May I ask a question?

If someone says something and is 100 percent convinced that what he/she is
saying is accurate and truthful, did they lie if later events or information
proves them to be in error?

This seems to be the heart of the Bush issue. Many are absolutely
convinced that he and his administration made up a bunch of stories and
justifications to invade Iraq. These accusations ... and that's all they
are ... have somehow become "the truth" in the circle of armchair, Monday
morning generals.

"The truth" becomes more and more confirmed as the people involved jump ship
and change their tune as more accurate information is acquired. Perfect
example are the many Democrats who were all "for the war" before they were
against it, even dating back to Clinton's administration. It also includes
those who, for their own personal objectives, want to distance themselves
from those who had to make the decisions at the time.

I remain unconvinced that Bush made up the stories. There was (and still
isn't) anything to be gained personally by him. He may have been wrong in
his assessment, but I don't think he outright lied. For that reason, I
keep an open mind.

Here's another example of how issues become causes. Not too many months
ago the main topic of debate regarding water boarding was if it was indeed a
form of torture. To many, that question still remains. However, the
media coverage and hype has produced a general consensus that it *is*
torture. As I type, I am listening to a Harvard law professor stating that
officials in Bush's administration have admitted to "torturing" detainees.
But, don't you see, that's under the newly adopted, post event definition
that water boarding *is* torture. If public opinion (now an assumption)
was otherwise, then Bush and his administration could not be accused of
torture by authorizing water boarding.

See what I mean?

Eisboch

 
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