On Thu, 07 May 2009 10:12:14 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Wed, 06 May 2009 18:32:10 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

roblem is, arguing about whether water torture is torture is sort of
meaningless, don't you think? I mean, it's called water torture.
Well it was - until the American government started using it.
Then it became waterboarding. I guess some folks are easily confused.
Anybody who lets a name get in the way of truth isn't thinking
clearly.

When I was a kid reading about the Japs using it on US POWs it was
torture.
They put a long strip of cloth in the victims mouth. They would hold
on to one end while the victim swallowed it. Then they would pull it
out, slowly, so slowly. They use the cans the cooking kerosene came in
and didn't bother to rinse them well. They also ****ed into them. When
the victim was full, looking 9 1/2 months pregnant, they would smack
them across the belly with a heavy iron bar and burst the stomach.
They knew how to waterboard in those days. I figure they ought to send
torturers to prison with pedophile paperwork. See how they like being
raped to death.

Casady

The US executed Japanese soldiers who were found to have waterboarded
our troops.

Seems pretty clear that human physiology hasn't changed in 60 years,
how could our definition of this form of torture?

Ideology allows anything.

On Thu, 07 May 2009 10:18:10 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 07 May 2009 09:48:48 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:



I never could understand some peoples obsession with royals,
especially by Americans. The Canadians have an excuse, the Queen is
even on their dough. But then I am rather unimpressed with celebrities
in general. I would never dream of asking a movie actor for an
autograph. I figure they are entitled to a life when not working.

One of my kids told me about a hilarious incident he had when he
visited Hollywood while on a cross-country driving vacation.
He hit a big Mercedes with his Chevy station wagon, or the Mercedes
hit him. The Merc had a "driver' and the owner was in the back seat.
The black guy from a TV show called E.R.
Never watched it and don't know who he is. My son didn't either.
It was a little fender bender deal where my son had inched out of an
alley or parking lot and the Merc came speeding by, scraping the side
against the kid's front bumper. Probably mostly my son's fault.
The Merc went on a hundred feet or so before stopping.
Son was barely out his car before a guy came running from a nearby
restaurant.
"Do you know who you're in a accident with!!?"
Guy is all breathless excited, and say's "That's blah blah"
My kid is thinking WTF?
And this guy gets even more excited because my son never heard of him.
There was other stuff about how he and this actor did a stare-down.
Funny, but you have to hear him tell the story.
Anyway, there's lots of people who live their lives worshiping others.
Bottom line and most important is it didn't cost the kid a dime.
Probably best to pick rich actors for fender benders.

--Vic

Color is always the most easily distinguished detail. If the actor
were "default" white, you wouldn't have said so. Your description
would have only included the gender.

I'm not calling you a racist, it's just an interesting aside. I've
never watched ER either.

On Thu, 07 May 2009 08:37:46 -0700, jps wrote:



Color is always the most easily distinguished detail. If the actor
were "default" white, you wouldn't have said so. Your description
would have only included the gender.

I'm not calling you a racist, it's just an interesting aside. I've
never watched ER either.

You're thinking too much. If I didn't know Mutt from Jeff I'd say the
tall guy or the short guy. You wouldn't suspect tallism or shortism.
If I knew the name I'd say Mutt, or Jeff.
ER was a popular show and some here probably know who I'm talking
about. Just gave some identification info.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 08:37:46 -0700, jps wrote:


Color is always the most easily distinguished detail. If the actor
were "default" white, you wouldn't have said so. Your description
would have only included the gender.

I'm not calling you a racist, it's just an interesting aside. I've
never watched ER either.

You're thinking too much. If I didn't know Mutt from Jeff I'd say the
tall guy or the short guy. You wouldn't suspect tallism or shortism.
If I knew the name I'd say Mutt, or Jeff.
ER was a popular show and some here probably know who I'm talking
about. Just gave some identification info.

--Vic

I think JPS would have been happy if you called the man negro. He gets
so upset when you use the racist term "black".

On Thu, 07 May 2009 08:26:39 -0700, jps wrote:


The US executed Japanese soldiers who were found to have waterboarded
our troops.

Seems pretty clear that human physiology hasn't changed in 60 years, how
could our definition of this form of torture?

Ideology allows anything.

You don't have to go back 60 years. In the Vietnam War, US soldiers were
court-martialed for waterboarding.

On Wed, 06 May 2009 18:58:42 -0400, BAR wrote:

My wife's ancestors had the good sense to leave Canada back in the
1850's. They must have seen socialism, especially national health care
coming and got out fast.

I bet it was the Winters

On May 9, 7:38*am, Richard Casady wrote:
On Wed, 06 May 2009 18:58:42 -0400, BAR wrote:
My wife's ancestors had the good sense to leave Canada back in the
1850's. They must have seen socialism, especially national health care
coming and got out fast.

I bet it was the Winters

No, his family were ****ed because Canada didn't allow Slavery......