On Apr 9, 12:23*am, wrote:
Simply train and arm the crew with 50 cal. and 20 m.m. automatic weapons to
defend themselves. A 20 m.m. Vulcan gatlin gun mounted amidships with quad
50's fore and aft would stop all the nonsense. As a former destroyer
shipmate, I assure you the firepower in the aforementioned is sufficient to
strike terror in the hearts of any so called Pirates."Eisboch" wrote in message

...





Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.

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Agreed.

At least a couple Ma-deuces, and even mini-guns would help

On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 9, 12:23*am, wrote:
Simply train and arm the crew with 50 cal. and 20 m.m. automatic weapons to
defend themselves. A 20 m.m. Vulcan gatlin gun mounted amidships with quad
50's fore and aft would stop all the nonsense. As a former destroyer
shipmate, I assure you the firepower in the aforementioned is sufficient to
strike terror in the hearts of any so called Pirates."Eisboch" wrote in message

...





Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Agreed.

At least a couple Ma-deuces, and even mini-guns would help

Arm that 13 man crew. The ones who have a half mile of railings to
watch for ladders and grappling irons.[Emma Maersk]

It is true that there are many smaller ships, with bigger crews.

It cost about 2 to 3 million bucks for a stabilized 20mm mount.

That leaves spray and pray, and the Gatling doesn't need to be bigger
than 5,56mm. No armor on those outboard motors. Shoot if you see guns
and ladders.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 9, 12:23 am, wrote:
Simply train and arm the crew with 50 cal. and 20 m.m. automatic weapons to
defend themselves. A 20 m.m. Vulcan gatlin gun mounted amidships with quad
50's fore and aft would stop all the nonsense. As a former destroyer
shipmate, I assure you the firepower in the aforementioned is sufficient to
strike terror in the hearts of any so called Pirates."Eisboch" wrote in message

...





Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Agreed.

At least a couple Ma-deuces, and even mini-guns would help

Arm that 13 man crew. The ones who have a half mile of railings to
watch for ladders and grappling irons.[Emma Maersk]

It is true that there are many smaller ships, with bigger crews.

It cost about 2 to 3 million bucks for a stabilized 20mm mount.

That leaves spray and pray, and the Gatling doesn't need to be bigger
than 5,56mm. No armor on those outboard motors. Shoot if you see guns
and ladders.

Casady



Alternately, we could give our mighty military forces and the mighty
military forces of other interested countries something useful to do for
a change. A few carriers and protective ships in the area, helped by
satellites and flyovers from carrier jets and prop planes, would do it.
We can easily keep track of the merchant vessels, and we can in real
time keep track of suspicious activities by the dinky boats and ships
the pirates operate.




--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

On Apr 10, 9:42*am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 9, 12:23 am, wrote:
Simply train and arm the crew with 50 cal. and 20 m.m. automatic weapons to
defend themselves. A 20 m.m. Vulcan gatlin gun mounted amidships with quad
50's fore and aft would stop all the nonsense. As a former destroyer
shipmate, I assure you the firepower in the aforementioned is sufficient to
strike terror in the hearts of any so called Pirates."Eisboch" wrote in message

news:Cb6dnZsqAv2bQEHUnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews. com...

Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy-Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Agreed.

At least a couple Ma-deuces, and even mini-guns would help

Arm that 13 man crew. The ones who have a half mile of railings to
watch for ladders and grappling irons.[Emma Maersk]

It is true that there are many smaller ships, with bigger crews.

It cost about 2 to 3 million bucks for a stabilized 20mm mount.

That leaves spray and pray, and the Gatling doesn't need to be bigger
than 5,56mm. No armor on those outboard motors. Shoot if you see guns
and ladders.

Casady

Alternately, we could give our mighty military forces and the mighty
military forces of other interested countries something useful to do for
a change. A few carriers and protective ships in the area, helped by
satellites and flyovers from carrier jets and prop planes, would do it.
We can easily keep track of the merchant vessels, and we can in real
time keep track of suspicious activities by the dinky boats and ships
the pirates operate.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
Bring Integerity back to Washington.


Pffftt. Hopefully, nobody here is litening to you as your assumption
is way off. According to Navy officials it would take 60 ships to
handle that area. Do you know how many ships we currently have in our
Navy? C'mon Harry, get some facts then come back and talk snerk
Here's a hint, think 300...

wrote:
On Apr 10, 9:42 am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:23 am, wrote:
Simply train and arm the crew with 50 cal. and 20 m.m. automatic weapons to
defend themselves. A 20 m.m. Vulcan gatlin gun mounted amidships with quad
50's fore and aft would stop all the nonsense. As a former destroyer
shipmate, I assure you the firepower in the aforementioned is sufficient to
strike terror in the hearts of any so called Pirates."Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy-Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Agreed.
At least a couple Ma-deuces, and even mini-guns would help
Arm that 13 man crew. The ones who have a half mile of railings to
watch for ladders and grappling irons.[Emma Maersk]
It is true that there are many smaller ships, with bigger crews.
It cost about 2 to 3 million bucks for a stabilized 20mm mount.
That leaves spray and pray, and the Gatling doesn't need to be bigger
than 5,56mm. No armor on those outboard motors. Shoot if you see guns
and ladders.
Casady
Alternately, we could give our mighty military forces and the mighty
military forces of other interested countries something useful to do for
a change. A few carriers and protective ships in the area, helped by
satellites and flyovers from carrier jets and prop planes, would do it.
We can easily keep track of the merchant vessels, and we can in real
time keep track of suspicious activities by the dinky boats and ships
the pirates operate.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
Bring Integerity back to Washington.


Pffftt. Hopefully, nobody here is litening to you as your assumption
is way off. According to Navy officials it would take 60 ships to
handle that area. Do you know how many ships we currently have in our
Navy? C'mon Harry, get some facts then come back and talk snerk
Here's a hint, think 300...


D'oh. You missed the part about satellites and military forces from
other countries, eh, plus the force multiplier of planes? And it
wouldn't necessarily have to be lots of large "ships," since fast and
heavily armed patrol craft can cover a lot of ocean. Many, many
countries produce small, ocean-going, high speed patrol and interdiction
craft.

Our navy, of course, is mostly interested in bigger and better. Well,
that isn't necessarily the way to go in catching Somali pirates.

You should stick to drinking squeeze all day...and stop typing in
between sips.






--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

wrote:
On Apr 10, 9:42 am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:23 am, wrote:
Simply train and arm the crew with 50 cal. and 20 m.m. automatic weapons to
defend themselves. A 20 m.m. Vulcan gatlin gun mounted amidships with quad
50's fore and aft would stop all the nonsense. As a former destroyer
shipmate, I assure you the firepower in the aforementioned is sufficient to
strike terror in the hearts of any so called Pirates."Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy-Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Agreed.
At least a couple Ma-deuces, and even mini-guns would help
Arm that 13 man crew. The ones who have a half mile of railings to
watch for ladders and grappling irons.[Emma Maersk]
It is true that there are many smaller ships, with bigger crews.
It cost about 2 to 3 million bucks for a stabilized 20mm mount.
That leaves spray and pray, and the Gatling doesn't need to be bigger
than 5,56mm. No armor on those outboard motors. Shoot if you see guns
and ladders.
Casady
Alternately, we could give our mighty military forces and the mighty
military forces of other interested countries something useful to do for
a change. A few carriers and protective ships in the area, helped by
satellites and flyovers from carrier jets and prop planes, would do it.
We can easily keep track of the merchant vessels, and we can in real
time keep track of suspicious activities by the dinky boats and ships
the pirates operate.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
Bring Integerity back to Washington.


Pffftt. Hopefully, nobody here is litening to you as your assumption
is way off. According to Navy officials it would take 60 ships to
handle that area. Do you know how many ships we currently have in our
Navy? C'mon Harry, get some facts then come back and talk snerk
Here's a hint, think 300...

Notice he said "keep track". That's an important part of liberal
thinking. Next step after keeping track is "study commission". In a few
years you might get some findings which will lead to appropriations to
do more studies. Etc. etc. etc.

What we need to do is eliminate the threats by any means at our disposal.

wrote in message
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On Apr 10, 9:42 am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 9, 12:23 am, wrote:
Simply train and arm the crew with 50 cal. and 20 m.m. automatic
weapons to
defend themselves. A 20 m.m. Vulcan gatlin gun mounted amidships with
quad
50's fore and aft would stop all the nonsense. As a former destroyer
shipmate, I assure you the firepower in the aforementioned is
sufficient to
strike terror in the hearts of any so called Pirates."Eisboch"
wrote in message

news:Cb6dnZsqAv2bQEHUnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews. com...

Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy-Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Agreed.

At least a couple Ma-deuces, and even mini-guns would help

Arm that 13 man crew. The ones who have a half mile of railings to
watch for ladders and grappling irons.[Emma Maersk]

It is true that there are many smaller ships, with bigger crews.

It cost about 2 to 3 million bucks for a stabilized 20mm mount.

That leaves spray and pray, and the Gatling doesn't need to be bigger
than 5,56mm. No armor on those outboard motors. Shoot if you see guns
and ladders.

Casady

Alternately, we could give our mighty military forces and the mighty
military forces of other interested countries something useful to do for
a change. A few carriers and protective ships in the area, helped by
satellites and flyovers from carrier jets and prop planes, would do it.
We can easily keep track of the merchant vessels, and we can in real
time keep track of suspicious activities by the dinky boats and ships
the pirates operate.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
Bring Integerity back to Washington.


Pffftt. Hopefully, nobody here is litening to you as your assumption
is way off. According to Navy officials it would take 60 ships to
handle that area. Do you know how many ships we currently have in our
Navy? C'mon Harry, get some facts then come back and talk snerk
Here's a hint, think 300...
--------
The navy are smoking crack then. 4 ships it all it would take. 3 escorts
and a flat top and fly to the target. I could only see 60 ships if you
planned an wholescale invasion of Somalia. Somalia is smaller than Texas.

On Apr 11, 4:05*pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Apr 10, 9:42 am, HK wrote:





Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 9, 12:23 am, wrote:
Simply train and arm the crew with 50 cal. and 20 m.m. automatic
weapons to
defend themselves. A 20 m.m. Vulcan gatlin gun mounted amidships with
quad
50's fore and aft would stop all the nonsense. As a former destroyer
shipmate, I assure you the firepower in the aforementioned is
sufficient to
strike terror in the hearts of any so called Pirates."Eisboch"
wrote in message

news:Cb6dnZsqAv2bQEHUnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews. com...

Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy-Hidequoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Agreed.

At least a couple Ma-deuces, and even mini-guns would help

Arm that 13 man crew. The ones who have a half mile of railings to
watch for ladders and grappling irons.[Emma Maersk]

It is true that there are many smaller ships, with bigger crews.

It cost about 2 to 3 million bucks for a stabilized 20mm mount.

That leaves spray and pray, and the Gatling doesn't need to be bigger
than 5,56mm. No armor on those outboard motors. Shoot if you see guns
and ladders.

Casady

Alternately, we could give our mighty military forces and the mighty
military forces of other interested countries something useful to do for
a change. A few carriers and protective ships in the area, helped by
satellites and flyovers from carrier jets and prop planes, would do it.
We can easily keep track of the merchant vessels, and we can in real
time keep track of suspicious activities by the dinky boats and ships
the pirates operate.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
Bring Integerity back to Washington.

Pffftt. Hopefully, nobody here is litening to you as your assumption
is way off. According to Navy officials it would take 60 ships to
handle that area. Do you know how many ships we currently have in our
Navy? C'mon Harry, get some facts then come back and talk * snerk
Here's a hint, think 300...
--------
The navy are smoking crack then. *4 ships it all it would take. *3 escorts
and a flat top and fly to the target. *I could only see 60 ships if you
planned an wholescale invasion of Somalia. *Somalia is smaller than Texas.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's what they said it would take to protect and monitor all of the
traffic in that area... Don't ask me, it was a Navy guy who explained
it. You just can't monitor all the traffic in that area and pick out
the bad from the innocent unless the Pirates flew the Jolly Roger.
Remember, we would have apologist groups like the UN claiming that
every boat was an innocent and fighting for pirates rights.. It could
get real messy.. I still think private security is the answer...

wrote in message
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On Apr 11, 4:05 pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Apr 10, 9:42 am, HK wrote:





Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 9, 12:23 am, wrote:
Simply train and arm the crew with 50 cal. and 20 m.m. automatic
weapons to
defend themselves. A 20 m.m. Vulcan gatlin gun mounted amidships
with
quad
50's fore and aft would stop all the nonsense. As a former destroyer
shipmate, I assure you the firepower in the aforementioned is
sufficient to
strike terror in the hearts of any so called Pirates."Eisboch"
wrote in message

news:Cb6dnZsqAv2bQEHUnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews. com...

Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy-Hidequoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Agreed.

At least a couple Ma-deuces, and even mini-guns would help

Arm that 13 man crew. The ones who have a half mile of railings to
watch for ladders and grappling irons.[Emma Maersk]

It is true that there are many smaller ships, with bigger crews.

It cost about 2 to 3 million bucks for a stabilized 20mm mount.

That leaves spray and pray, and the Gatling doesn't need to be bigger
than 5,56mm. No armor on those outboard motors. Shoot if you see guns
and ladders.

Casady

Alternately, we could give our mighty military forces and the mighty
military forces of other interested countries something useful to do for
a change. A few carriers and protective ships in the area, helped by
satellites and flyovers from carrier jets and prop planes, would do it.
We can easily keep track of the merchant vessels, and we can in real
time keep track of suspicious activities by the dinky boats and ships
the pirates operate.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
Bring Integerity back to Washington.

Pffftt. Hopefully, nobody here is litening to you as your assumption
is way off. According to Navy officials it would take 60 ships to
handle that area. Do you know how many ships we currently have in our
Navy? C'mon Harry, get some facts then come back and talk snerk
Here's a hint, think 300...
--------
The navy are smoking crack then. 4 ships it all it would take. 3 escorts
and a flat top and fly to the target. I could only see 60 ships if you
planned an wholescale invasion of Somalia. Somalia is smaller than Texas.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's what they said it would take to protect and monitor all of the
traffic in that area... Don't ask me, it was a Navy guy who explained
it. You just can't monitor all the traffic in that area and pick out
the bad from the innocent unless the Pirates flew the Jolly Roger.
Remember, we would have apologist groups like the UN claiming that
every boat was an innocent and fighting for pirates rights.. It could
get real messy.. I still think private security is the answer...
-----
Americans, and Canadians need to learn not to give a damn about what the UN
thinks. In fact, we should scale back what we spend to what other countries
like Kenya, SA, Liba, China, Vietnam, Pakistan spend. Heck, unless they tie
votes to contributions....

UN is useless liability. Good idealism that fails the test of reality. It
gives too many backward and barabaric countries too much vocal time and aid
to support their dictatorships and facist regimes.

The US needs only go to the UN, say 24 hours to give back our ships and
people or else. Then if they don't, go in, do damage they will rember for
20 years, and get out. Light the place up for 24 hours of flame. Fight
like they do, hit and run. Kadafi got the message when his palace was
bombed. Very effective. Hit fast, hard then get out.

wrote in message
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On Apr 11, 4:05 pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Apr 10, 9:42 am, HK wrote:





Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 9, 12:23 am, wrote:
Simply train and arm the crew with 50 cal. and 20 m.m. automatic
weapons to
defend themselves. A 20 m.m. Vulcan gatlin gun mounted amidships
with
quad
50's fore and aft would stop all the nonsense. As a former destroyer
shipmate, I assure you the firepower in the aforementioned is
sufficient to
strike terror in the hearts of any so called Pirates."Eisboch"
wrote in message

news:Cb6dnZsqAv2bQEHUnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews. com...

Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy-Hidequoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Agreed.

At least a couple Ma-deuces, and even mini-guns would help

Arm that 13 man crew. The ones who have a half mile of railings to
watch for ladders and grappling irons.[Emma Maersk]

It is true that there are many smaller ships, with bigger crews.

It cost about 2 to 3 million bucks for a stabilized 20mm mount.

That leaves spray and pray, and the Gatling doesn't need to be bigger
than 5,56mm. No armor on those outboard motors. Shoot if you see guns
and ladders.

Casady

Alternately, we could give our mighty military forces and the mighty
military forces of other interested countries something useful to do for
a change. A few carriers and protective ships in the area, helped by
satellites and flyovers from carrier jets and prop planes, would do it.
We can easily keep track of the merchant vessels, and we can in real
time keep track of suspicious activities by the dinky boats and ships
the pirates operate.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
Bring Integerity back to Washington.

Pffftt. Hopefully, nobody here is litening to you as your assumption
is way off. According to Navy officials it would take 60 ships to
handle that area. Do you know how many ships we currently have in our
Navy? C'mon Harry, get some facts then come back and talk snerk
Here's a hint, think 300...
--------
The navy are smoking crack then. 4 ships it all it would take. 3 escorts
and a flat top and fly to the target. I could only see 60 ships if you
planned an wholescale invasion of Somalia. Somalia is smaller than Texas.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's what they said it would take to protect and monitor all of the
traffic in that area... Don't ask me, it was a Navy guy who explained
it. You just can't monitor all the traffic in that area and pick out
the bad from the innocent unless the Pirates flew the Jolly Roger.
Remember, we would have apologist groups like the UN claiming that
every boat was an innocent and fighting for pirates rights.. It could
get real messy.. I still think private security is the answer...

And I conceed, I think you are right. Private security is all it would take
logistically. Politicially, make it cool to kill pirates. Even a bounty.