American crew retakes ship
 

D.Duck wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy


AP now reporting that two of the *pirates* escaped with the ship's captain.
The plot thickens.





U.S. flagged vessels with union crews do get some training in repelling
boarders. I hope a deal can be made for the captain's life.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

American crew retakes ship
 

Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy

American crew retakes ship
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy


AP now reporting that two of the *pirates* escaped with the ship's captain.
The plot thickens.

American crew retakes ship
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
D.Duck wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy


AP now reporting that two of the *pirates* escaped with the ship's
captain. The plot thickens.



U.S. flagged vessels with union crews do get some training in repelling
boarders. I hope a deal can be made for the captain's life.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

I hope the companies rethink their attitude towards an unarmed crew. And I
hope the best for the captain.

American crew retakes ship
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
D.Duck wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy


AP now reporting that two of the *pirates* escaped with the ship's
captain. The plot thickens.



U.S. flagged vessels with union crews do get some training in repelling
boarders. I hope a deal can be made for the captain's life.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

I would put a noose around all the pirates that are captured on the ship and
line them up along the rail. Inform the ones with the captain that if
anything happens to the captain or they leave the area, the ones on the rail
will head to the sea.

American crew retakes ship
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"HK" wrote in message
m...
D.Duck wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy


AP now reporting that two of the *pirates* escaped with the ship's
captain. The plot thickens.



U.S. flagged vessels with union crews do get some training in repelling
boarders. I hope a deal can be made for the captain's life.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

I would put a noose around all the pirates that are captured on the ship
and line them up along the rail. Inform the ones with the captain that if
anything happens to the captain or they leave the area, the ones on the
rail will head to the sea.


Do you think the captains captors care? (say that fast three times)

American crew retakes ship
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:12:18 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I would put a noose around all the pirates that are captured on the ship and
line them up along the rail. Inform the ones with the captain that if
anything happens to the captain or they leave the area, the ones on the rail
will head to the sea.

I was watching Glenn Beck a while ago and for once he said something
that might have made sense.
"Where are the Marines?"
Keeping a fast reaction force in that area and just plain kicking ass
when an American flagged ship is touched would stop it cold.
Take no prisoners.
I got a feeling it won't be done because of crew safety and
"environmental" considerations.
Sticky problem. The Mayaguez and Iran hostage situations are probably
studied to make these kinds of decisions.
Remember the Q-ships? Merchant ships with hidden guns.
Maybe it was all a John Wayne movie.
Tripoli was assaulted to stop the pirates before.
Might take a land assault to stop it this time.
It's weird to think that 204 years after the Barbary pirates, we're
back to the same problem.
Actually, Somalia is less "civilized" than was Tripoli.
There was a leader of Tripoli to make peace with.

--Vic


The ship, its contents, and ransom money are just property, a commodity
much less valuable than the lives of the ship crews.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

American crew retakes ship
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...

I was watching Glenn Beck a while ago and for once he said something
that might have made sense.
"Where are the Marines?"
Keeping a fast reaction force in that area and just plain kicking ass
when an American flagged ship is touched would stop it cold.
Take no prisoners.
I got a feeling it won't be done because of crew safety and
"environmental" considerations.
Sticky problem. The Mayaguez and Iran hostage situations are probably
studied to make these kinds of decisions.
Remember the Q-ships? Merchant ships with hidden guns.
Maybe it was all a John Wayne movie.
Tripoli was assaulted to stop the pirates before.
Might take a land assault to stop it this time.
It's weird to think that 204 years after the Barbary pirates, we're
back to the same problem.
Actually, Somalia is less "civilized" than was Tripoli.
There was a leader of Tripoli to make peace with.

--Vic


Interestingly, the first military action taken by the United States after
we became an independent nation was against the Barbary pirates who were
doing exactly the same thing then as the Somali pirates are doing today.
They were capturing European ships and demanding ransom payments. They
then began attacking US ships. At first Congress appropriated money to be
paid as ransom but Thomas Jefferson had some balls and led the effort to
confront them. We didn't really have a global Navy at the time, but what
we had were sent to the Med and they took care of business.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/collecti.../mtjprece.html

Eisboch

American crew retakes ship
 

"HK" wrote in message
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The ship, its contents, and ransom money are just property, a commodity
much less valuable than the lives of the ship crews.



The reason this nonsense continues is because ransoms are paid.

I know what Ronald Reagan would do.
I know what George H.W. Bush would do.
I know what George W. Bush would do.
Hell, I can even guess what Bill Clinton would do.

But, I can't begin to predict what Obama would or will do.
After all, it's only money.

Thomas Jefferson had the right idea.

Eisboch

American crew retakes ship
 

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...


The ship, its contents, and ransom money are just property, a
commodity much less valuable than the lives of the ship crews.



The reason this nonsense continues is because ransoms are paid.

I know what Ronald Reagan would do.
I know what George H.W. Bush would do.
I know what George W. Bush would do.
Hell, I can even guess what Bill Clinton would do.

But, I can't begin to predict what Obama would or will do.
After all, it's only money.

Thomas Jefferson had the right idea.

Eisboch


I think it really stupid to assault a ship commanded by pirates when the
crews' lives are at stake. On the other hand, if there are pirates
approaching or leaving the ship, and they are not carrying hostages,
well, they are fair game. We obviously need to task some satellites to
watch the Somali coast and any small boats heading way offshore. We can
do that in real time, and dispatch naval aircraft to ward off any small
boats that get too close. We can do this at night, too.

What would George W. Bush do? Get a few thousand Americans killed.



--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time