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jim78565 April 9th 09 11:29 AM

American crew retakes ship
 
Pittman Pirate wrote:
"Jim22208" wrote

I'm confident our leader will handle this situation properly. The captain
did a brave thing. We need to pray for him.


I am very interested in what "Fearless Leader" is going to do.

Why does "Rocky and Bullwinkle" come to mind?


He needs a good man like Krause by his side to help guide him through
these troubled times. My guess is that he throws money at the situation
and hopes it goes away. Seriously though, I hope some of our elite
fighting forces,the NAVY Seals, are working as we speak, to free the
captain and make those pirates disappear forever.

[email protected] April 9th 09 01:19 PM

American crew retakes ship
 
On Apr 8, 6:00*pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:12:18 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


I would put a noose around all the pirates that are captured on the ship and
line them up along the rail. *Inform the ones with the captain that if
anything happens to the captain or they leave the area, the ones on the rail
will head to the sea.


I was watching Glenn Beck a while ago and for once he said something
that might have made sense.
"Where are the Marines?"
Keeping a fast reaction force in that area and just plain kicking ass
when an American flagged ship is touched would stop it cold.
Take no prisoners.
I got a feeling it won't be done because of crew safety and
"environmental" considerations.
Sticky problem. *The Mayaguez and Iran hostage situations are probably
studied to make these kinds of decisions.
Remember the Q-ships? *Merchant ships with hidden guns.
Maybe it was all a John Wayne movie.
Tripoli was assaulted to stop the pirates before.
Might take a land assault to stop it this time.
It's weird to think that 204 years after the Barbary pirates, we're
back to the same problem.
Actually, Somalia is less "civilized" than was Tripoli.
There was a leader of Tripoli to make peace with.


--Vic


The ship, its contents, and ransom money are just property, a commodity
much less valuable than the lives of the ship crews.

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What an idiot! With your sentence above, you've quantified not only
the ship and it's contents, but you've quantified the worth of the
crew. So, do tell, what is that dollar amount?
It's funny that you think the crew of that ship has such great value,
but right here in this forum, you've wished death, misery, and ill
fortune on countless people.

Tim April 9th 09 04:25 PM

American crew retakes ship
 
On Apr 9, 12:23*am, wrote:
Simply train and arm the crew with 50 cal. and 20 m.m. automatic weapons to
defend themselves. A 20 m.m. Vulcan gatlin gun mounted amidships with quad
50's fore and aft would stop all the nonsense. As a former destroyer
shipmate, I assure you the firepower in the aforementioned is sufficient to
strike terror in the hearts of any so called Pirates."Eisboch" wrote in message

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Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief.


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Agreed.

At least a couple Ma-deuces, and even mini-guns would help

Pittman Pirate April 9th 09 07:20 PM

American crew retakes ship
 

wrote

The ship, its contents, and ransom money are just property, a commodity
much less valuable than the lives of the ship crews.


If the shipping companies value these men so much, why to they send them
unarmed into hostile waters? If they are so valued, why doesn't the US send
a team of SEALS in there and clean house? A few 50BMGs on a boat should
keep some skinny villagers away from a huge vessel with just some warning
snots.

If you read closely the descriptions of these crews, they are multinational
and one wonders how they all even communicate. They are probably the
futigives and derelicts of various nations. The main crew are skilled
people. The rest are just oilers and deckhands.




Calif Bill April 9th 09 08:07 PM

American crew retakes ship
 

"Pittman Pirate" wrote in message
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wrote

The ship, its contents, and ransom money are just property, a commodity
much less valuable than the lives of the ship crews.


If the shipping companies value these men so much, why to they send them
unarmed into hostile waters? If they are so valued, why doesn't the US
send a team of SEALS in there and clean house? A few 50BMGs on a boat
should keep some skinny villagers away from a huge vessel with just some
warning snots.

If you read closely the descriptions of these crews, they are
multinational and one wonders how they all even communicate. They are
probably the futigives and derelicts of various nations. The main crew
are skilled people. The rest are just oilers and deckhands.




Another elitest. I had to laugh that the pirates in the home port were
saying they are sending out some armed boats to help the contained pirates.
Yup, lots of brain power. Go out with small arms weapons and not hostages
against ships that are armed to the teeth with really badass weapons.



Tim April 10th 09 03:56 AM

American crew retakes ship (update... sort of)
 

The "Now" Somalian gov'twants the international community to help
support the Somalian CoastGguard????

Now it sounds like they want the wolves to be hand fed too! ....

http://www.voanews.com/english/Afric...04-10-voa3.cfm

jim78565 April 10th 09 10:55 AM

American crew retakes ship (update... sort of)
 
Tim wrote:
The "Now" Somalian gov'twants the international community to help
support the Somalian CoastGguard????

Now it sounds like they want the wolves to be hand fed too! ....

http://www.voanews.com/english/Afric...04-10-voa3.cfm

I smell a rat. The pirates have collected a rather large Booty. Has the
Somali Govt. asked for their share of the plunder? The US Navy is on
scene ready to help the Somali Govt. rid their country of the pirates.
All we need from them is intel. and, as a diplomatic courtesy,
permission to do what's needed.

I am glad Mr. Obama has been kept informed of developments. How
embarrassing it would be if a US flagged ship was attacked and our
leader wasn't made privy to the measures being taken by our government.

Richard Casady April 10th 09 12:16 PM

American crew retakes ship
 
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:20:19 -0700, "Pittman Pirate"
wrote:

If you read closely the descriptions of these crews, they are multinational
and one wonders how they all even communicate. They are probably the
futigives and derelicts of various nations. The main crew are skilled
people. The rest are just oilers and deckhands.


The biggested freighter ever made has a crew of thirteen. The Emma
Maersk. The standard language of shipping is English. Oilers and
deckhands get scarce when the ship has a crew of fewer than 20. Modern
ships are so highly automated that there is nobody on deck or in the
engine room at night. This is not a new trend. A century ago they
built huge schooners in order to get by with smaller crews than
necessary for a square rigged ship. The seven masted schooner Thomas
Lawson had a crew of 18 plus a steam winch.

Casady

HK April 10th 09 12:39 PM

American crew retakes ship
 
Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:20:19 -0700, "Pittman Pirate"
wrote:

If you read closely the descriptions of these crews, they are multinational
and one wonders how they all even communicate. They are probably the
futigives and derelicts of various nations. The main crew are skilled
people. The rest are just oilers and deckhands.


The biggested freighter ever made has a crew of thirteen. The Emma
Maersk. The standard language of shipping is English. Oilers and
deckhands get scarce when the ship has a crew of fewer than 20. Modern
ships are so highly automated that there is nobody on deck or in the
engine room at night. This is not a new trend. A century ago they
built huge schooners in order to get by with smaller crews than
necessary for a square rigged ship. The seven masted schooner Thomas
Lawson had a crew of 18 plus a steam winch.

Casady



A steam wench, eh? I guess she never got tired.



--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

Richard Casady April 10th 09 02:14 PM

American crew retakes ship
 
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:19:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

What an idiot! With your sentence above, you've quantified not only
the ship and it's contents, but you've quantified the worth of the
crew. So, do tell, what is that dollar amount?


When my stepson was jailed for drunk driving, the fools running the
place left him his belt, and once he was in a cell, he immediately
hanged himself. His life was worth 80 000 bucks.

Casady


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