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Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...


The ones 300 miles off the coast in 21' Parkers?



Oh. No problem then. Wake 'em.

Eisboch

Won't do anything but **** em off. Those boats are unsinkable owing to
their patented "flow through" transom cutouts.

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On Apr 10, 2:10*pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 10, 11:49*am, wrote:





On Apr 10, 12:45*pm, Tim wrote:

On Apr 10, 10:55*am, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message

...

We always have at least one carrier group in the Indian Ocean, by the way.

The Indian Ocean is about 20 million square miles in area. * Granted, a
small portion of the area is subject to prirate attacks, but it's still a
huge area. * A carrier group typically consists of about 5-6 ships, one of
which is a tanker/supply ship. * There's usually a cruiser and a couple of
destroyers or frigates and a sub. * The role of the frigates and destroyers
are primarily to protect the carrier, so they don't go off steaming around
by themselves.

Even with jet fighters and helicopters, that's a big area to "patrol".
Over the horizon radar helps, and we have technology to identify the type,
name and position of an enemy combatant as well as large merchant ships,
but you have to keep in mind that there are literally hundreds if not
thousands of small boats running around that we can't identify without a
visual look-see. * Which ones are the pirates?

Sounds good in theory, but just won't work out very well in practice.

Eisboch

Which ones are the pirates?

The ones armed to the teeth!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you call AK47's armed to the teeth, I guess so.. But then that
makes everyone in that part of the world pirates.. I would guess that
even innocent fisheman carry these dime a dozen weapons...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Scott, when I said "armed tot he teeth" I wasn't talking about tinker-
toy pop-gun AK's. I was meaning RPG and various explosive devices.

Do fisherman need to be 400 mi. out in the indian ocean in a 20 ft
open bow with no fishing gear and carying grenade launchers?

I doubt it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, but bet that if we take out a small vessel armed some 350 miles
out, they will claim they were only fishing... My point is, Harry is
an idiot if he thinks we can just use surveylance and our navy to take
out the pirates... Of course, my other point is Harry is an idiot..

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On Apr 10, 2:33*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

We always have at least one carrier group in the Indian Ocean, by the
way.

The Indian Ocean is about 20 million square miles in area. * Granted, a
small portion of the area is subject to prirate attacks, but it's still
a huge area. * A carrier group typically consists of about 5-6 ships,
one of which is a tanker/supply ship. * There's usually a cruiser and a
couple of destroyers or frigates and a sub. * The role of the frigates
and destroyers are primarily to protect the carrier, so they don't go
off steaming around by themselves.

Even with jet fighters and helicopters, that's a big area to "patrol".
Over the horizon radar helps, and we have technology to identify the
type, name and position of an enemy combatant as well as large merchant
ships, but you have to keep in mind that there are literally hundreds if
not thousands of small boats running around that we can't identify
without a visual look-see. * Which ones are the pirates?

Sounds good in theory, but just won't work out very well in practice.

Eisboch

I didn't state we could go it alone. A couple of carriers, a lot of
patrol boats, satellites, et cetera.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
Bring integerity back to Washington.-

- Show quoted text -

Oh, and who is going to help us, the UN countries?... snerk As
usual, yo u don't have a clue what you are babbling about..

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On Apr 10, 2:34*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Apr 10, 10:55 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...

We always have at least one carrier group in the Indian Ocean, by the way.
The Indian Ocean is about 20 million square miles in area. * Granted, a
small portion of the area is subject to prirate attacks, but it's still a
huge area. * A carrier group typically consists of about 5-6 ships, one of
which is a tanker/supply ship. * There's usually a cruiser and a couple of
destroyers or frigates and a sub. * The role of the frigates and destroyers
are primarily to protect the carrier, so they don't go off steaming around
by themselves.

Even with jet fighters and helicopters, that's a big area to "patrol".
Over the horizon radar helps, and we have technology to identify the type,
name and position of an enemy combatant as well as large merchant ships,
but you have to keep in mind that there are literally hundreds if not
thousands of small boats running around that we can't identify without a
visual look-see. * Which ones are the pirates?

Sounds good in theory, but just won't work out very well in practice.

Eisboch

Which ones are the pirates?

The ones armed to the teeth!

The ones 300 miles off the coast in 21' Parkers?

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
Bring integerity back to Washington...-

- Show quoted text -

If we start taking out small boats 300 miles off shore you will be
screaming they were just fishermen...


Obama and Biden 08
All lies, all the time..

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On Apr 10, 3:16*pm, wrote:
On Apr 10, 2:10*pm, Tim wrote:





On Apr 10, 11:49*am, wrote:

On Apr 10, 12:45*pm, Tim wrote:

On Apr 10, 10:55*am, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message

...

We always have at least one carrier group in the Indian Ocean, by the way.

The Indian Ocean is about 20 million square miles in area. * Granted, a
small portion of the area is subject to prirate attacks, but it's still a
huge area. * A carrier group typically consists of about 5-6 ships, one of
which is a tanker/supply ship. * There's usually a cruiser and a couple of
destroyers or frigates and a sub. * The role of the frigates and destroyers
are primarily to protect the carrier, so they don't go off steaming around
by themselves.

Even with jet fighters and helicopters, that's a big area to "patrol".
Over the horizon radar helps, and we have technology to identify the type,
name and position of an enemy combatant as well as large merchant ships,
but you have to keep in mind that there are literally hundreds if not
thousands of small boats running around that we can't identify without a
visual look-see. * Which ones are the pirates?

Sounds good in theory, but just won't work out very well in practice.

Eisboch

Which ones are the pirates?

The ones armed to the teeth!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you call AK47's armed to the teeth, I guess so.. But then that
makes everyone in that part of the world pirates.. I would guess that
even innocent fisheman carry these dime a dozen weapons...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Scott, when I said "armed tot he teeth" I wasn't talking about tinker-
toy pop-gun AK's. I was meaning RPG and various explosive devices.

Do fisherman need to be 400 mi. out in the indian ocean in a 20 ft
open bow with no fishing gear and carying grenade launchers?

I doubt it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, but bet that if we take out a small vessel armed some 350 miles
out, they will claim they were only fishing... My point is, Harry is
an idiot if he thinks we can just use surveylance and our navy to take
out the pirates... Of course, my other point is Harry is an idiot..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Besides that, Harry is an idiot.

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On Apr 10, 3:29*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 10, 2:34 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Apr 10, 10:55 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
We always have at least one carrier group in the Indian Ocean, by the way.
The Indian Ocean is about 20 million square miles in area. * Granted, a
small portion of the area is subject to prirate attacks, but it's still a
huge area. * A carrier group typically consists of about 5-6 ships, one of
which is a tanker/supply ship. * There's usually a cruiser and a couple of
destroyers or frigates and a sub. * The role of the frigates and destroyers
are primarily to protect the carrier, so they don't go off steaming around
by themselves.
Even with jet fighters and helicopters, that's a big area to "patrol".
Over the horizon radar helps, and we have technology to identify the type,
name and position of an enemy combatant as well as large merchant ships,
but you have to keep in mind that there are literally hundreds if not
thousands of small boats running around that we can't identify without a
visual look-see. * Which ones are the pirates?
Sounds good in theory, but just won't work out very well in practice..
Eisboch
Which ones are the pirates?
The ones armed to the teeth!
The ones 300 miles off the coast in 21' Parkers?

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
Bring integerity back to Washington...-

- Show quoted text -

If we start taking out small boats 300 miles off shore you will be
screaming they were just fishermen...

Obama and Biden 08
All lies, all the time..

Uh...if I were interested in the opinions of an uneducated, naive,
barely literate idiot, I'd ask you or one of your butt buddies.

Too bad you dropped out of High School or you wouldn't be so afraid of
us..

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
Bring integerity back to Washington...

- Show quoted text -

Obama and Biden
All lies, all the time..

American crew retakes ship (possibly bad potential)
 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...DskjwD97FQVFG0

this could open a can of ugly worms.

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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:31:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Another thing you seem to forget is "innocent until proven guilty".
What are you going to do, wipe out every small armed ship in the area.

The first treaty banning privateers is 150 years old. Private armed
ships are more or less presumed to be pirates, but that is moot, since
there are none. The pirates are not using ships, armed or otherwise. A
small boat with shoulder rifles is not an armed ship.

Casady

American crew retakes ship
 

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:49:14 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

If you call AK47's armed to the teeth, I guess so.. But then that
makes everyone in that part of the world pirates.. I would guess that
even innocent fisheman carry these dime a dozen weapons...

In the US the most common shark gun is a shotgun. Mossberg makes one
from all stainless, especially for mariners. Over there an AK is
cheaper. This only requires one gun per boat. As for intent, lack of
fishing tackle is an indicator. If they have a ladder, kill them all.

Casady