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Eisboch[_4_] April 10th 09 04:55 PM

American crew retakes ship
 

"HK" wrote in message
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We always have at least one carrier group in the Indian Ocean, by the way.


The Indian Ocean is about 20 million square miles in area. Granted, a
small portion of the area is subject to prirate attacks, but it's still a
huge area. A carrier group typically consists of about 5-6 ships, one of
which is a tanker/supply ship. There's usually a cruiser and a couple of
destroyers or frigates and a sub. The role of the frigates and destroyers
are primarily to protect the carrier, so they don't go off steaming around
by themselves.

Even with jet fighters and helicopters, that's a big area to "patrol".
Over the horizon radar helps, and we have technology to identify the type,
name and position of an enemy combatant as well as large merchant ships,
but you have to keep in mind that there are literally hundreds if not
thousands of small boats running around that we can't identify without a
visual look-see. Which ones are the pirates?

Sounds good in theory, but just won't work out very well in practice.

Eisboch




[email protected] April 10th 09 04:59 PM

American crew retakes ship
 
On Apr 10, 11:55*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...



We always have at least one carrier group in the Indian Ocean, by the way.


The Indian Ocean is about 20 million square miles in area. * Granted, a
small portion of the area is subject to prirate attacks, but it's still a
huge area. * A carrier group typically consists of about 5-6 ships, one of
which is a tanker/supply ship. * There's usually a cruiser and a couple of
destroyers or frigates and a sub. * The role of the frigates and destroyers
are primarily to protect the carrier, so they don't go off steaming around
by themselves.

Even with jet fighters and helicopters, that's a big area to "patrol".
Over the horizon radar helps, and we have technology to identify the type,
name and position of an enemy combatant as well as large merchant ships,
but you have to keep in mind that there are literally hundreds if not
thousands of small boats running around that we can't identify without a
visual look-see. * Which ones are the pirates?

Sounds good in theory, but just won't work out very well in practice.

Eisboch


It seems far fetched that our friend WAFA didn't understand that. It
amazes me how uninformed weather deliberately or not, he is. If you
listend to him you would think all it would take would be to unionize
the military and all of our problems would be solved snerk

Tim April 10th 09 05:42 PM

American crew retakes ship (update... sort of)
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...5391BQ20090410

Well, I give a thumbs up to the Capt. for trying to escape, but
unfortunately he was recaptured.



Tim April 10th 09 05:45 PM

American crew retakes ship
 
On Apr 10, 10:55*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...



We always have at least one carrier group in the Indian Ocean, by the way.


The Indian Ocean is about 20 million square miles in area. * Granted, a
small portion of the area is subject to prirate attacks, but it's still a
huge area. * A carrier group typically consists of about 5-6 ships, one of
which is a tanker/supply ship. * There's usually a cruiser and a couple of
destroyers or frigates and a sub. * The role of the frigates and destroyers
are primarily to protect the carrier, so they don't go off steaming around
by themselves.

Even with jet fighters and helicopters, that's a big area to "patrol".
Over the horizon radar helps, and we have technology to identify the type,
name and position of an enemy combatant as well as large merchant ships,
but you have to keep in mind that there are literally hundreds if not
thousands of small boats running around that we can't identify without a
visual look-see. * Which ones are the pirates?

Sounds good in theory, but just won't work out very well in practice.

Eisboch


Which ones are the pirates?

The ones armed to the teeth!

[email protected] April 10th 09 05:46 PM

American crew retakes ship
 
On Apr 10, 11:59*am, wrote:
On Apr 10, 11:55*am, "Eisboch" wrote:





"HK" wrote in message


...


We always have at least one carrier group in the Indian Ocean, by the way.


The Indian Ocean is about 20 million square miles in area. * Granted, a
small portion of the area is subject to prirate attacks, but it's still a
huge area. * A carrier group typically consists of about 5-6 ships, one of
which is a tanker/supply ship. * There's usually a cruiser and a couple of
destroyers or frigates and a sub. * The role of the frigates and destroyers
are primarily to protect the carrier, so they don't go off steaming around
by themselves.


Even with jet fighters and helicopters, that's a big area to "patrol".
Over the horizon radar helps, and we have technology to identify the type,
name and position of an enemy combatant as well as large merchant ships,
but you have to keep in mind that there are literally hundreds if not
thousands of small boats running around that we can't identify without a
visual look-see. * Which ones are the pirates?


Sounds good in theory, but just won't work out very well in practice.


Eisboch


It seems far fetched that our friend WAFA didn't understand that. It
amazes me how uninformed weather deliberately or not, he is. If you
listend to him you would think all it would take would be to unionize
the military and all of our problems would be solved snerk- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Now, you know that Harry is the brightest, best educated person there
is, just ask him. You also know that Harry gets briefed by top level
CIA intel daily. Ask him!

[email protected] April 10th 09 05:49 PM

American crew retakes ship
 
On Apr 10, 12:45*pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 10, 10:55*am, "Eisboch" wrote:





"HK" wrote in message


...


We always have at least one carrier group in the Indian Ocean, by the way.


The Indian Ocean is about 20 million square miles in area. * Granted, a
small portion of the area is subject to prirate attacks, but it's still a
huge area. * A carrier group typically consists of about 5-6 ships, one of
which is a tanker/supply ship. * There's usually a cruiser and a couple of
destroyers or frigates and a sub. * The role of the frigates and destroyers
are primarily to protect the carrier, so they don't go off steaming around
by themselves.


Even with jet fighters and helicopters, that's a big area to "patrol".
Over the horizon radar helps, and we have technology to identify the type,
name and position of an enemy combatant as well as large merchant ships,
but you have to keep in mind that there are literally hundreds if not
thousands of small boats running around that we can't identify without a
visual look-see. * Which ones are the pirates?


Sounds good in theory, but just won't work out very well in practice.


Eisboch


Which ones are the pirates?

The ones armed to the teeth!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


If you call AK47's armed to the teeth, I guess so.. But then that
makes everyone in that part of the world pirates.. I would guess that
even innocent fisheman carry these dime a dozen weapons...

Tim April 10th 09 07:10 PM

American crew retakes ship
 
On Apr 10, 11:49*am, wrote:
On Apr 10, 12:45*pm, Tim wrote:





On Apr 10, 10:55*am, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message


...


We always have at least one carrier group in the Indian Ocean, by the way.


The Indian Ocean is about 20 million square miles in area. * Granted, a
small portion of the area is subject to prirate attacks, but it's still a
huge area. * A carrier group typically consists of about 5-6 ships, one of
which is a tanker/supply ship. * There's usually a cruiser and a couple of
destroyers or frigates and a sub. * The role of the frigates and destroyers
are primarily to protect the carrier, so they don't go off steaming around
by themselves.


Even with jet fighters and helicopters, that's a big area to "patrol"..
Over the horizon radar helps, and we have technology to identify the type,
name and position of an enemy combatant as well as large merchant ships,
but you have to keep in mind that there are literally hundreds if not
thousands of small boats running around that we can't identify without a
visual look-see. * Which ones are the pirates?


Sounds good in theory, but just won't work out very well in practice.


Eisboch


Which ones are the pirates?


The ones armed to the teeth!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


If you call AK47's armed to the teeth, I guess so.. But then that
makes everyone in that part of the world pirates.. I would guess that
even innocent fisheman carry these dime a dozen weapons...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Scott, when I said "armed tot he teeth" I wasn't talking about tinker-
toy pop-gun AK's. I was meaning RPG and various explosive devices.

Do fisherman need to be 400 mi. out in the indian ocean in a 20 ft
open bow with no fishing gear and carying grenade launchers?

I doubt it.

HK April 10th 09 07:33 PM

American crew retakes ship
 
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...



We always have at least one carrier group in the Indian Ocean, by the
way.


The Indian Ocean is about 20 million square miles in area. Granted, a
small portion of the area is subject to prirate attacks, but it's still
a huge area. A carrier group typically consists of about 5-6 ships,
one of which is a tanker/supply ship. There's usually a cruiser and a
couple of destroyers or frigates and a sub. The role of the frigates
and destroyers are primarily to protect the carrier, so they don't go
off steaming around by themselves.

Even with jet fighters and helicopters, that's a big area to "patrol".
Over the horizon radar helps, and we have technology to identify the
type, name and position of an enemy combatant as well as large merchant
ships, but you have to keep in mind that there are literally hundreds if
not thousands of small boats running around that we can't identify
without a visual look-see. Which ones are the pirates?

Sounds good in theory, but just won't work out very well in practice.

Eisboch




I didn't state we could go it alone. A couple of carriers, a lot of
patrol boats, satellites, et cetera.


--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

HK April 10th 09 07:34 PM

American crew retakes ship
 
Tim wrote:
On Apr 10, 10:55 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...



We always have at least one carrier group in the Indian Ocean, by the way.

The Indian Ocean is about 20 million square miles in area. Granted, a
small portion of the area is subject to prirate attacks, but it's still a
huge area. A carrier group typically consists of about 5-6 ships, one of
which is a tanker/supply ship. There's usually a cruiser and a couple of
destroyers or frigates and a sub. The role of the frigates and destroyers
are primarily to protect the carrier, so they don't go off steaming around
by themselves.

Even with jet fighters and helicopters, that's a big area to "patrol".
Over the horizon radar helps, and we have technology to identify the type,
name and position of an enemy combatant as well as large merchant ships,
but you have to keep in mind that there are literally hundreds if not
thousands of small boats running around that we can't identify without a
visual look-see. Which ones are the pirates?

Sounds good in theory, but just won't work out very well in practice.

Eisboch


Which ones are the pirates?

The ones armed to the teeth!



The ones 300 miles off the coast in 21' Parkers?

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

Eisboch[_4_] April 10th 09 07:55 PM

American crew retakes ship
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...


The ones 300 miles off the coast in 21' Parkers?



Oh. No problem then. Wake 'em.

Eisboch



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