On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:49:13 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

In CA, rates are lower than in NJ. But a policy for someone over 55 or so
ain't gonna be cheap. Gunner probably had enough preconditions to either
jack up the prices or to exclude covered conditions, in any case.

When he was employed (pre-bush) he could have switched to
carrying his own within ~ 60 days (or when CORBA ran out)
and IIRC, most would have covered any pre-existing conditions.
You generally lose that coverage for several years IF you
allow a ~60 day lapse in coverage but not if you stay
covered by any insurance firm (or switch firms).
--
Cliff

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:43:50 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
wrote:

Well, even tho Gunner has yet to master the sillygism, I think despite some
of his more offensive stances, he has a good heart with good intentions.

Hence his constant death threats to so many, eh?
--
Cliff

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:43:50 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
wrote:

Hope he can fully recover from this stroke.

And be able to tell a W from an M?
--
Cliff

Matt Stawicki wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:21:27 -0700 (PDT), Nicholas
wrote:

On Mar 17, 2:10?am, Cliff wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob
wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck
wrote:
Chip Auger wrote:
?1: jon_banquer : 34
?2: Gunner Asch : 34
?3: Cliff : 31
Are the three stooges sick? What gives?
Asch is in the hospital.............
Tom:
? ? ? ?Gunner's in the hospital? ?
Yes, since last Wednesday.
He just got OUT of the hospital, where
there some complications? ?
That is my guess.
Is it serious?
I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open
heart surgery, I would guess it's serious.
Tom
? Dang welfare state !!!!
? I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions,
may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy
stuff .... not taken his $$ meds .. ?

? Worst case might be endocarditis .....
--
Cliff
I'm going with "pulled his sternum open"

I warned him directly about this possibility, but evidently he thinks
he is uber mench and doesn't have to live by the Laws of Nature.

As a survivor of a few broken bones of my own, they take a very long
time to heal the older a person gets. He tried to go back to work too
soon, and FUBARED himself up, no doubt about it.

When will we see him again? Depends on how much damage he did to
himself.

Nick

Talked to him about an hour ago. He had a stroke. Doctors aren't sure
why. He should be released sometime this afternoon.

Matt

Strokes are no fun. Hope he gets better.

Dan

"Cliff" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:49:13 -0400, "Ed Huntress"

wrote:

In CA, rates are lower than in NJ. But a policy for someone over 55 or so
ain't gonna be cheap. Gunner probably had enough preconditions to either
jack up the prices or to exclude covered conditions, in any case.

When he was employed (pre-bush) he could have switched to
carrying his own within ~ 60 days (or when CORBA ran out)
and IIRC, most would have covered any pre-existing conditions.
You generally lose that coverage for several years IF you
allow a ~60 day lapse in coverage but not if you stay
covered by any insurance firm (or switch firms).

Most states don't require insurers to cover you after COBRA runs out (New
York does; some others do). So, after 12 months or 18 months on COBRA,
you're out of luck if you're rated.

In my case, my COBRA eligibility overlapped my eligibility on my wife's plan
at work. It was like falling from a high wire into a safety net. Now I have
to make sure she stays happy and healthy. g

--
Ed Huntress

On 17 Mar 2009 16:21:39 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:10:52 -0400, Cliff wrote:

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob
wrote:



wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck
wrote:

Chip Auger wrote:

1: jon_banquer : 34 2: Gunner Asch
: 34 3: Cliff :
31
Are the three stooges sick? What gives?

Asch is in the hospital.............

Tom:

Gunner's in the hospital?

Yes, since last Wednesday.

He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications?

That is my guess.

Is it serious?

I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open
heart surgery, I would guess it's serious.

Tom

Dang welfare state !!!!
I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions,
may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not
taken his $$ meds .. ?

Worst case might be endocarditis .....

Highest probability is a stroke/clot. Given his years of bile for the
poor and health care, I wonder what the tab is for Gunner, the Welfare
Queen, now?

Something just doesn't fit. Gunner claimed he was making $75/hour yet
had no health insurance. At his age of 54, 55, 56 health insurance would
cost less than a day's work. Even if he was 70 as one post indicated
Blue Cross with a $5k deductable would still be less than two days a
month.

Was gunner lying about his income or irresponsible about his health
needs? In either case he is now the lowest form of life in his own
words. Gunner should have watched "My Name Is Earl."

Gunner's not lying. He gets $75/hr for machine tool service. That's
not a full time, 40 hr/week job. Some weeks are good, 5-6 service
calls for a 50 hr week. Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two
1 hour jobs.

Then you get times when the economy is down, people find ways to fix
their equipment themselves, or try to get by without needed repairs,
and you find yourself with no service calls for two or three weeks.

Been there, done that.

Matt

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:30:22 -0800, Matt Stawicki wrote:

On 17 Mar 2009 16:21:39 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:10:52 -0400, Cliff wrote:

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob
wrote:



wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck
wrote:

Chip Auger wrote:

1: jon_banquer : 34 2: Gunner Asch
: 34 3: Cliff :
31
Are the three stooges sick? What gives?

Asch is in the hospital.............

Tom:

Gunner's in the hospital?

Yes, since last Wednesday.

He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications?

That is my guess.

Is it serious?

I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open
heart surgery, I would guess it's serious.

Tom

Dang welfare state !!!!
I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions,
may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not
taken his $$ meds .. ?

Worst case might be endocarditis .....

Highest probability is a stroke/clot. Given his years of bile for the
poor and health care, I wonder what the tab is for Gunner, the Welfare
Queen, now?

Something just doesn't fit. Gunner claimed he was making $75/hour yet
had no health insurance. At his age of 54, 55, 56 health insurance
would cost less than a day's work. Even if he was 70 as one post
indicated Blue Cross with a $5k deductable would still be less than two
days a month.

Was gunner lying about his income or irresponsible about his health
needs? In either case he is now the lowest form of life in his own
words. Gunner should have watched "My Name Is Earl."

Gunner's not lying.

Stranger things have happened.

He gets $75/hr for machine tool service. That's not
a full time, 40 hr/week job. Some weeks are good, 5-6 service calls for
a 50 hr week. Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs.

Then you get times when the economy is down, people find ways to fix
their equipment themselves, or try to get by without needed repairs, and
you find yourself with no service calls for two or three weeks.

Then he had the $$$ for health insurance and chose not to purchase.

The question of his military service remains. Gunner could have opted
for VA care and avoided the hospital bills.

Been there, done that.

Matt

--
Regards, Curly
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Arrest Bush
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:36:17 -0800, Matt Stawicki
wrote:
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Nick

Talked to him about an hour ago. He had a stroke. Doctors aren't sure
why. He should be released sometime this afternoon.

Matt
-------------
Good to hear that he will be released soon.

Lots of clots floating around after open heart surgery, and if
you skimp on your medications the problem can be worse. Also a
heart attack can indicate the entire body is wearing out.

His commentaries and observations have been missed.

Now if there were only some way to stay 30 years old until we
die....


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
-------------------------------------------
He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

On 18 Mar 2009 12:54:39 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:30:22 -0800, Matt Stawicki wrote:

He gets $75/hr for machine tool service. That's not
a full time, 40 hr/week job. Some weeks are good, 5-6 service calls for
a 50 hr week. Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs.

Then you get times when the economy is down, people find ways to fix
their equipment themselves, or try to get by without needed repairs, and
you find yourself with no service calls for two or three weeks.

Then he had the $$$ for health insurance and chose not to purchase.

What part of "Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour
jobs." didn't you understand? I didn't imply that the 1 or 2 hour
weeks happen only once in a while. Sometimes you can go for months
without a decent service call.

Matt

"Matt Stawicki" wrote in message
news On 18 Mar 2009 12:54:39 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:30:22 -0800, Matt Stawicki wrote:

He gets $75/hr for machine tool service. That's not
a full time, 40 hr/week job. Some weeks are good, 5-6 service calls for
a 50 hr week. Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs.

Then you get times when the economy is down, people find ways to fix
their equipment themselves, or try to get by without needed repairs, and
you find yourself with no service calls for two or three weeks.

Then he had the $$$ for health insurance and chose not to purchase.

"What part of "Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour
jobs." didn't you understand? I didn't imply that the 1 or 2 hour
weeks happen only once in a while. Sometimes you can go for months
without a decent service call."



I don't know a good service tech alive that hasn't been and isn't up to his
eye balls.
I've even gone out myself and at $140.00 per hour.

Sheesh.

JC