On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:18:30 -0800, "CalifBill"
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:34:09 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:38:11 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:34:22 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:43 -0500, wrote:

I was referencing audio recording studios, not home theaters playing
movies of Bruce Willis blowing stuff up and other exagerated special
effects. In an anechoic chamber, you can barely hear a hand clap at
all.

I have never been in an anechoic chamber. I have fired guns and cherry
bombs out on the lake where there is nothing to echo from. Unfamiliar
flat sound. Not much echo from grass either.

Casady

Are you nut

Not from calm water back toward the boat. No corners no return. In any
case, you can clearly hear the difference. I used to officiate
sailboat races and had a 12 gauge starter gun.

I have a funny story about a 12 guage starter gun.

Something to do with holes in a main sail. :)

Are you really Barbera from Police Academy?

No. I am Lord Emporer of All I Survey and THE Supreme Galactic
Overlord in addition to my other duties as Universal Supreme Being.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.

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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved
on
out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent
fiasco.


I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio
shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing
machine.



My Navy experience started out as a Radioman and I was among 3 of the first
non-rated people to attend the Navy's teletype repair school in Norfolk.
( I later converted to electronics in a Navy technical education program).

Anyway, the Navy method of teaching stuff is sometimes amazing. I had never
seen a 100 wpm teletype machine in my life. At the end of the six week
school, I (and all the other graduates) could completely disassemble the
thing and it's hundreds of parts including gears, clutches, pawls, shafts,
etc., spread out all over the place and then reassemble it, make all the
necessary adjustments and it worked. Thinking about modern computers, one
can see the direct relationship and evolution of Morse code to 8 bit
teletype machines to this new, 64 bit Vista powered computer. It's an
amazing advancement of technology to witness in 40 years or so.

Eisboch

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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:03:30 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:07:33 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



The one with the anechoic sound chamber I'm referring to was in Skokie,
IL.
Now it's a shopping center?

Old Orchard?
Didn't even know about that Bell location.
Remember the Sunset drive-in on McCormack?

--Vic

Not Old Orchard, further South in Skokie.

Yep, remember Sunset drive-in quite well. Many visits there in the back
seat of the car while in high school. 8)

Cheap thrills huh?

~~ obligatory obscure cultural reference ~~

--

"Every normal man must be tempted at times
to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
and begin to slit throats."

H. L. Mencken


2 bucks back in those days wasn't so cheep. Sometimes the thrills weren't
so thrilling.

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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved
on
out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent
fiasco.


I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio
shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing
machine.



My Navy experience started out as a Radioman and I was among 3 of the
first non-rated people to attend the Navy's teletype repair school in
Norfolk. ( I later converted to electronics in a Navy technical education
program).

Anyway, the Navy method of teaching stuff is sometimes amazing. I had
never seen a 100 wpm teletype machine in my life. At the end of the six
week school, I (and all the other graduates) could completely disassemble
the thing and it's hundreds of parts including gears, clutches, pawls,
shafts, etc., spread out all over the place and then reassemble it, make
all the necessary adjustments and it worked. Thinking about modern
computers, one can see the direct relationship and evolution of Morse
code to 8 bit teletype machines to this new, 64 bit Vista powered
computer. It's an amazing advancement of technology to witness in 40
years or so.

Eisboch


Have you ever tried to completely disassemble an Intel Quad Core with it's
millions of transistors? That may not be the hard part but getting it back
together would take more than a squib. Probably would take a Marine.

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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:04:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:




We had one at Bell Labs and was really an eerie feeling being in there.
It
was used while measuring sound output levels from our equipment for the
government

Were you at Bell up here, Duck?
Back in maybe '79 met a friend of a friend who worked at Bell
on a team developing a new computer language. C.
I was still in college and trying to figure out assembler.
My brother got dumped out of Lucent when they went down the tubes
what - 6-7 years ago?
Geez, how the landscape has changed.

Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved
on
out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent
fiasco.

I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio
shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing
machine.

--

"Far better it is to dare mighty things,
to win glorious triumphs even though
checkered by failure, than to rank with
those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor
suffer much because they live in the gray
twilight that knows neither victory nor
defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

Yep, you've mentioned it. I had a M28 ASR years ago when I was active.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:43:51 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:03:30 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:07:33 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



The one with the anechoic sound chamber I'm referring to was in Skokie,
IL.
Now it's a shopping center?

Old Orchard?
Didn't even know about that Bell location.
Remember the Sunset drive-in on McCormack?

--Vic

Not Old Orchard, further South in Skokie.

Yep, remember Sunset drive-in quite well. Many visits there in the back
seat of the car while in high school. 8)

Cheap thrills huh?

~~ obligatory obscure cultural reference ~~

2 bucks back in those days wasn't so cheep. Sometimes the thrills weren't
so thrilling.

Zoom....

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:08:08 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved
on
out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent
fiasco.

I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio
shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing
machine.

My Navy experience started out as a Radioman and I was among 3 of the first
non-rated people to attend the Navy's teletype repair school in Norfolk.
( I later converted to electronics in a Navy technical education program).

Anyway, the Navy method of teaching stuff is sometimes amazing. I had never
seen a 100 wpm teletype machine in my life. At the end of the six week
school, I (and all the other graduates) could completely disassemble the
thing and it's hundreds of parts including gears, clutches, pawls, shafts,
etc., spread out all over the place and then reassemble it, make all the
necessary adjustments and it worked. Thinking about modern computers, one
can see the direct relationship and evolution of Morse code to 8 bit
teletype machines to this new, 64 bit Vista powered computer. It's an
amazing advancement of technology to witness in 40 years or so.

I remember one time back in the early sixties, Jean Sheperd (of
"Christmas Story" fame) and my Dad completely tore the machine apart
and put it back together over a weekend.

Damn thing worked fine with the little occasional noises here and
there. :)

I agree with you though - the advances in tech have been truly
amazing. It is interesting though, how the more things change, the
more they stay the same. Watching kids text is just like watching old
time radio or rail telegraph operators - abbreviations every other
word and somehow it all makes sense. :)

To be honest though, the one thing that worries me is this reliance on
digital processing. I still say we're setting ourselves up for a
major commuications melt down and sooner rather than later.

You heard it here first.

--

"Far better it is to dare mighty things,
to win glorious triumphs even though
checkered by failure, than to rank with
those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor
suffer much because they live in the gray
twilight that knows neither victory nor
defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:49:37 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:04:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:




We had one at Bell Labs and was really an eerie feeling being in there.
It
was used while measuring sound output levels from our equipment for the
government

Were you at Bell up here, Duck?
Back in maybe '79 met a friend of a friend who worked at Bell
on a team developing a new computer language. C.
I was still in college and trying to figure out assembler.
My brother got dumped out of Lucent when they went down the tubes
what - 6-7 years ago?
Geez, how the landscape has changed.

Worked for Teletype Corp that eventually morphed into Bell Labs and moved
on
out to Naperville. Many friends of mine were caught up in the Lucent
fiasco.

I ever tell you my Dad had a beast of a Teletype machine in his radio
shack? Surplus military thing - bigger than a freakin' washing
machine.

Yep, you've mentioned it. I had a M28 ASR years ago when I was active.

I honestly don't know what the model number of Dad's machine was -
all's I know it was huge. It might have been that one - I'll Google
it and see.

Eh - can't say really. I thnk it might have been. Looks similar.

--

"Every normal man must be tempted at times
to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
and begin to slit throats."

H. L. Mencken

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:12:10 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:


To be honest though, the one thing that worries me is this reliance on
digital processing. I still say we're setting ourselves up for a
major commuications melt down and sooner rather than later.

You heard it here first.

More than once too.
I'm thinking it goes beyond digital and there is too much reliance on
EMP-sensitive electronics. Even automobiles are dependent on computer
micro-circuitry that's not as robust as what was in them a few years
ago.
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees...as197010_1.HTM

Solar activity or some natural anomaly - the dis-eruption of the
gravitational equalibriums, or some as yet unknown quantum mechanical
type of magnus opus in the physics as we know them for instance -
could wreak havoc in the citizenry. And the public too.
Probably a good backup plan would be to have.....a horse.
Did I already say this? If so, I apologize.

--Vic

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:08:08 -0500, "Eisboch"

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