"Boater" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Jim wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:41:46 -0500, Boater
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Since I never buy new cars, I can't really say. Probably not.
But I have a very strong feeling GM will be around a long time, in
some form. Too big to die.

--Vic
You mean, like a boat company that has gone under? Someone buys the
name
after the company has gone teats up?
All kinds of possibilities. Might keep the name GM after reorg, or
change it ala IH becoming Navistar or some such.
Bottom line is there will always be a Chevy.

--Vic
I figure Chrysler or Ford will pick up the brand cheap.

Cheap isn't cheap enough if they don't have any money to spend.

Perhaps they'll do as you do, pushing a shopping cart along the
highways, picking up bottles and cans for the scrap value.

Maybe GM should of had the "Job Bank" people doing this.

Why? You and FloridaJim have all the necessary training.

We don't need the money.

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Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Jim wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:41:46 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Since I never buy new cars, I can't really say. Probably not.
But I have a very strong feeling GM will be around a long time, in
some form. Too big to die.

--Vic
You mean, like a boat company that has gone under? Someone buys the
name
after the company has gone teats up?
All kinds of possibilities. Might keep the name GM after reorg, or
change it ala IH becoming Navistar or some such.
Bottom line is there will always be a Chevy.

--Vic
I figure Chrysler or Ford will pick up the brand cheap.

Cheap isn't cheap enough if they don't have any money to spend.

Perhaps they'll do as you do, pushing a shopping cart along the
highways, picking up bottles and cans for the scrap value.

Maybe GM should of had the "Job Bank" people doing this.

Why? You and FloridaJim have all the necessary training.

We don't need the money.

Boater will never get it. He needs the money.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:29:50 -0700, "Canuck57"
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Lots of people want a good job. CAW can be replaced.

Saw an article where Toyota is saying Canadian labor is too expensive.
That's not CAW.
Might see them start shifting Canadian work to Alabama.
Or Maylasia - whichever is cheaper.

--Vic

That is a flip of a coin. Both are too expensive for auto workers. It
washes. But Canada might actually have a small advantage. Some
differences.

Health care is a provincial concern, but pay (average 5 year rate) is about
the same. Canadians get ripped in the taxes. In Ontario for example add
15% sales tax and excise fees on a new auto. Higher provincial, federal
income and hidden taxes. So US companies are not on the hook for it,
including retirees.

But Canadian Ontario/Quebec unions are also more despondent, more militant
and often set the pace. Not business friendly because of it. Everything
from property taxes to hydro is more expensive.

If you go west to Alberta it changes dramatically, Alberta is very
republican right, even by American standards. This is a Ontario/Quebec and
east coast curse, very lunch bucket socialistic and often myopic.

But for an American company I worked for 8 years, 4 on the US side and 4 on
the Canadian side, the US employees were more expensive in total cost and
definitively got paid more with better over all benefits. I estimate by
30%.

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**** you, you rumour mongering asswipe.

You sound like a typical CAW auto slacker.

Canuck57 wrote:
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:08:51 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

BTW total auto sales in canada rose slightly in September due to a big
increase for Toyota.
This is odd because you can't get a deal from them. Even in this unsure
financial climate, a local salesman said Toyota Canada wasn't offering
incentives to clear the left over '08 stock... but the dealer would drop
the price by $500.00. I almost laughed in his face....
I posted to rec.autos.gm about this, and a Cannuck who works at the
Oshawa plant said Impala sales were actually up. I saw a slew of them
on a recent road trip.
Much is up in the air, and nobody has a clue what will happen.
Maybe that's a good thing.

--Vic

If you needed a new car right now, would you buy one from a company
teetering on the brink?

Depends on model and price. How much off of invoice? If less than 30% of
invoice on a desired model, wouldn't consider it. Also needs to be a high
volume model so after market parts are easy.

If they don't want to sell it for that, wait until chapter 11 becomes
chapter 7 and I will get it for 1/2 price or less.

And another 15% off because I will pay in full on delivery, Amex, Visa or
cheque.



I could only put $6000 down on my credit card. They might me more
inclined to take more now.

"DK" wrote in message
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I could only put $6000 down on my credit card. *They might me more*
inclined to take more now.

"They might me more"???
You gotta quit raiding LoogyTunes private stash.

Don White wrote:
"DK" wrote in message
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I could only put $6000 down on my credit card. *They might me more*
inclined to take more now.

"They might me more"???
You gotta quit raiding LoogyTunes private stash.



Nice job, dummy! You picked up a typo! Good for you! Now go sniff
your master's ass, puppy.