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FMc
 
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So, I think that I would love to sail to Cuba. What can those in power do
about confiscating my boat?

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
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I know, I read it too.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cardinal Bill" wrote in
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Doug Dotson wrote:

Doug, I scanned the article. Basically the proclamation by Bush says
that Homeland Security can sieze your boat and toss you and all the
people off of it (and maybe into the clink) ANYWHERE in America (meaning
if you're setting in Seattle or Chicago) if they "think" you "might" be
going to Cuba or "might have been" to Cuba. You don't actually have to
travel there. Oh yeah...this goes for ANY boat. Meaning if you're
from, say Mexico or any other nation in the world, and you're in an
American port Homeland Security can seize your boat.

--
Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,

next
week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to
explain why it didn't happen.
-- Winston Churchill





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Jim Carter
 
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"Cardinal Bill" wrote.....
Basically the proclamation by Bush says
that Homeland Security can sieze your boat and toss you and all the
people off of it (and maybe into the clink) ANYWHERE in America (meaning
if you're setting in Seattle or Chicago) if they "think" you "might" be
going to Cuba or "might have been" to Cuba. You don't actually have to
travel there. Oh yeah...this goes for ANY boat. Meaning if you're
from, say Mexico or any other nation in the world, and you're in an
American port Homeland Security can seize your boat.


Whoa! Just a damn minute here! What's that!!! Are you saying that
your US Homeland Security Force can seize my boat if I happen to go across
Lake Huron to an American Port, just because I have traveled to Cuba? I am
a Canadian who travels on a Canadian registered vessel. My government has
no restrictions on travel to Cuba. Were does it say this? Show me the law
that states this, please! This past February was my seventh trip to cruise
Cuba and it's waters. It is a great place to visit and the people are
wonderful.

James D. Carter, Port Captain, GLCC
"The Boat"
Bayfield
Canada


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Chuck Baier
 
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What an idiot.



(CommieFidel) wrote in message . com...
Hello Gabriel Latrémouille and other Bush haters.

Comrades it is indeed most excellent of you and others to lend your
support to us wonderful Cubans.

As you know we are a truly wonderful people. I, as dictator, wish let
you know that you are all welcome to come and visit as much as you
like as long as you follow a few simple rules.

Since private property is unnecessary in this workers paradise, once
your boat arrived in our waters it is immediately the property of the
state. I consider our finest moment to be the dislocation of so many
from their property and not having to compensate them for it. We hope
you have very nice boats. The Cuban navy will put them to good use.
On the other hand, the weather is very nice and you can enjoy the
sunshine and work on your tan.

If you come to our country, expect to stay. You can only return to
the United States if you become criminally insane, infected with HIV,
are a murderer, homosexual, or have any other honest to god
psychopathy.

Speaking of god--we don't have one here in this paradise so please
leave your saint christopher medals outside our border.

You will not need any of those US dollars either because here
everything for sale is free. We'll take those dollars off your hands
right away. Right now we are out of everything. So there's not much
for sale but you can get an excellent deal on everything on our
shelves. It's free!!!!!

There's plenty of jobs--remember this is a workers paradise. All the
workers are happy and fully employed.

We have no crime here--being a workers paradise. Every one here is
giddy with joy. That's why we only send north the psychopaths,
infected, homosexuals etc.

For the life of me,I can't understand why so many of you comrades are
mad at Bush 43. Before him, Bill Clinton had the same policies
towards our paradise. And 43's father 41 had the same policy. And
before him Regan, and before him, Jimmy Carter etc. right back to JFK.

In CUBA, we have an especial affinity for those in the Democratic
party. Afterall, they agree with us that no one "needs" guns except
for the police and military. They are also beavering away in their
congress attempting to raise the tax rates to 100% of all earned
income over 1 cent. (JUST LIKE HERE!!!!!)

Once GWB43 is voted out you can come and visit as much as you like.
Unless you are from South Florida, and voted for GWB43. Even though
democrats pander to every liberal, unionist, gay, statist group of
people--we like them better than those hateful private property, free
speech loving, industrious savers in South Florida.

CommieFidel

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Glenn Ashmore
 
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A bit exaggerated but there is a thread of truth. Actually, one of the
current main forces behind the embargo is Alfonso Fanjul, owner of
Flo-Sun Sugar. He is probably one of the most powerful figures in
Florida politics and gets about $65 million a year in government sugar
subsidies while he pours tons of nitrogen into the Florida Bay poisoning
the keys and blaming it on us boaters. Dan Burton and Jessie Helms (of
the Helms-Burton embargo act) got about 15% of their campaign funds from
the Fanjul family. In '92 Alfonso was co-chair of the Clinton Florida
campaign while his brother Pepe was treasurer for Bush I and Dole. BOTH
Fanjuls are big buddies with brother Jeb and have close access to the
White House.

Vito wrote:
Blame Mussolini (sp?)! He was so hard on the Mafia that US mobsters helped
allied intellegence during WW2. Ike got so indebted to them for this help,
and some 'personal' things they did for him that Charlie Lucky was released
and allowed to carry his $millions back to Sicily. Meanwhile Ike's yes-man
J-Edgar was proclaiming that no mob ever existed; but somehow non-existent
US criminals controlled Cuba, made big $$$ off gambling and pimping local
pretties and, more important, laundered the extortion money made in the USA.
This in turn gave them even more $$$ to spend on crooked cops and
politicians - which in turn gave them more political clout. Some thot it
utopian. I mean why bust yer ass cutting cane when your 13 year old could
turn tricks in Havana?

But then Castro kicked out the mob-owned government, and became an
international hero - until he stupidly interfered with Ike's buddies. Then
Lansky & friends called in some chips and in the midst of a US tour Castro
suddenly became a communist! I mean we *knew* he was a filthy commie because
he appropriated 'private property' - namely the mobs casinos and whore
houses - closed them down, and sent the girls home. So we slapped sanctions
on him and he became worse! He nationalized the medical business and MDs
could no longer make $million/year like in the states, so all the MDs moved
to Florida. He cracked down on crime, so all the criminals moved to Florida.
And when we really tightened the screws he got into bed with Kruchev! No
wonder Bush hates him so. How can an honest criminal make money with the
likes of Castro around?? Jeeze, it just 'taint right.

And that's why you can't go there ..... (c:



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OOOO! Now you did it!

"FMc" wrote in message
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So, I think that I would love to sail to Cuba. What can those in power do
about confiscating my boat?

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
I know, I read it too.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cardinal Bill" wrote in
message ...
Doug Dotson wrote:

Doug, I scanned the article. Basically the proclamation by Bush says
that Homeland Security can sieze your boat and toss you and all the
people off of it (and maybe into the clink) ANYWHERE in America

(meaning
if you're setting in Seattle or Chicago) if they "think" you "might"

be
going to Cuba or "might have been" to Cuba. You don't actually have

to
travel there. Oh yeah...this goes for ANY boat. Meaning if you're
from, say Mexico or any other nation in the world, and you're in an
American port Homeland Security can seize your boat.

--
Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,

next
week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to
explain why it didn't happen.
-- Winston Churchill









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"Jim Carter" wrote in message news:cWTnc.24135 Whoa!
Just a damn minute here! What's that!!! Are you saying that
your US Homeland Security Force can seize my boat if I happen to go across
Lake Huron to an American Port, just because I have traveled to Cuba? I

am
a Canadian who travels on a Canadian registered vessel. My government has
no restrictions on travel to Cuba. Were does it say this? Show me the

law
that states this, please! This past February was my seventh trip to

cruise
Cuba and it's waters. It is a great place to visit and the people are
wonderful.

James D. Carter, Port Captain, GLCC
"The Boat"
Bayfield
Canada

Oh oh! Now that the 'cat is out of the bag' you'd better stay away from
the US. Next thing we'll be reading about you stripped naked and led around
on a dog leash.


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"Jim Carter" wrote:

Whoa! Just a damn minute here! What's that!!! Are you saying
that your US Homeland Security Force can seize my boat if I happen to
go across Lake Huron to an American Port, just because I have traveled
to Cuba?


'Fraid so. That's what the Bush Cabal - I mean, Administration, claims.

I am a Canadian who travels on a Canadian registered
vessel.


Don't make no diff to them that rules here now.

My government has no restrictions on travel to Cuba. Where
does it say this? Show me the law that states this, please!


Law? HAHA They don' need no steenking "Law". They IS the Law.
Remember "9/11 changed everything!" They do whatever they want,
and any reasons can be made up at any time.


This
past February was my seventh trip to cruise Cuba and it's waters. It
is a great place to visit and the people are wonderful.


Obviously a commie-pink-limpwrist-nonFundamentalistGawdfearin'-furriner!
(After Iraq we'll take care o' Canada...) :P

{Reality: Every week that goes by I feel like I am sinking ever deeper
into a bad dream. I hope everyone wakes up in time to VOTE in November
and restore the chance for freedom here in the US}

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"Don White" wrote in message
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Oh oh! Now that the 'cat is out of the bag' you'd better stay away from
the US. Next thing we'll be reading about you stripped naked and led

around
on a dog leash.



Now, that's funny! I damn near fell off my chair laughing, just thinking
about it.

Jim


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{Reality: Every week that goes by I feel like I am sinking ever deeper
into a bad dream. I hope everyone wakes up in time to VOTE in November
and restore the chance for freedom here in the US}


Vote for who? Kerry? I suppose he was for freedom before he was against it.
Or was it the other way around? Which way is the wind blowing?

Doug
s/v Callista



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Doug Dotson wrote:

{Reality: Every week that goes by I feel like I am sinking ever deeper
into a bad dream. I hope everyone wakes up in time to VOTE in November
and restore the chance for freedom here in the US}



Vote for who? Kerry? I suppose he was for freedom before he was against it.
Or was it the other way around? Which way is the wind blowing?


I hate to get into a political discussion on a news group that almost
uniquely has remained free of them, especially when I don't like either
of the candidates but something is going terribly askew here.

According to a letter to the Senate Finance Committee from the head of
the Office of Foreign Assets Control, which is supposed to be tracking
terrorist funds, they have been allocated only enough funds for 4 people
to track Al Quida finances and more than two dozen tracking Cuban
travel. Somebody needs to get their priorities in order.

--
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I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
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