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Marty[_2_] October 4th 08 12:05 AM

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Marty wrote:
Marty wrote:
Marty wrote:
Two meter troll wrote:

dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a
favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to
drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole.


Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet?



How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep
enough there?


Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in there!



Ocean City doesn't look to good either!

Where the hell is he going?


Cheers
Marty

Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] October 4th 08 12:16 AM

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"Marty" wrote in message
...
Marty wrote:
Marty wrote:
Marty wrote:
Two meter troll wrote:

dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a
favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to
drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole.


Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet?


How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep enough
there?


Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in
there!



Ocean City doesn't look to good either!

Where the hell is he going?



Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted to
get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been
the logical choice.

Wilbur Hubbard


Goofball_star_dot_etal October 4th 08 12:23 AM

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On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:16:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Marty" wrote in message
m...
Marty wrote:
Marty wrote:
Marty wrote:
Two meter troll wrote:

dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a
favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to
drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole.


Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet?


How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep enough
there?

Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in
there!



Ocean City doesn't look to good either!

Where the hell is he going?



Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted to
get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been
the logical choice.


It's a zig before a zag..



[email protected] October 4th 08 12:45 AM

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On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:16:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Marty" wrote in message
m...
Marty wrote:
Marty wrote:
Marty wrote:
Two meter troll wrote:

dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a
favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to
drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole.


Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet?


How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep enough
there?

Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in
there!



Ocean City doesn't look to good either!

Where the hell is he going?



Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted to
get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been
the logical choice.

Wilbur Hubbard


Skip often makes unusual meandering course changes that make little
sense to onlookers. It's even possible that he is just killing time
until morning, because it would have been dark by the time he reached
the Chesapeake Bay and he doesn't want to attempt it at night.


Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] October 4th 08 12:51 AM

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"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:16:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Marty" wrote in message
om...
Marty wrote:
Marty wrote:
Marty wrote:
Two meter troll wrote:

dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a
favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to
drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole.


Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet?


How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep
enough
there?

Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in
there!


Ocean City doesn't look to good either!

Where the hell is he going?



Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted
to
get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been
the logical choice.


It's a zig before a zag..



If there were westerly winds you might be right but it appears there are NW
winds so he must be motoring on his present course.

http://www.octhebeach.com/info/ocean...ture-wind.html

Wilbur Hubbard


Marty[_2_] October 4th 08 01:03 AM

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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:



Ocean City doesn't look to good either!

Where the hell is he going?



Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he
wanted to get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay
would have been the logical choice.


Indeed, particularly given what you say about a NW wind, would have been
a reach.

Cheers
Marty

Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] October 4th 08 01:06 AM

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wrote in message
...
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:16:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Marty" wrote in message
om...
Marty wrote:
Marty wrote:
Marty wrote:
Two meter troll wrote:

dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a
favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to
drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole.


Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet?


How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep
enough
there?

Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in
there!


Ocean City doesn't look to good either!

Where the hell is he going?



Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted
to
get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been
the logical choice.

Wilbur Hubbard


Skip often makes unusual meandering course changes that make little
sense to onlookers. It's even possible that he is just killing time
until morning, because it would have been dark by the time he reached
the Chesapeake Bay and he doesn't want to attempt it at night.


He was far enough offshore that, with the 15knot NW wind forecast in that
area, he could have beat straight into Chesapeake bay at about 5-6 knots and
would not have arrived there until by about mid-morning. He doesn't need to
kill time by going NW.

Besides, he made no mention of a stop in Chesapeake Bay in his float plan. .
..

"We're going from Sandy Hook, NJ, to Miami, preferably in one
jump. Barring last minute warnings against it, we're leaving
Wednesday Oct. 1, PM.


"Based on the recommendations from Chris Parker, our weather
consultant, for favorable winds and seas, we'll go on a rhumb
line, the outward curve through Barnegat Bay excepted, from Sandy Hook
NJ to Cape Hatteras, the first large jump being about 330 miles. We'll
avoid, as much as possible any adverse current as seen on these two
sites:
https://oceanography.navy.mil/legacy...c.pl/metoc/223...
and /32, plus http://rads.tudelft.nl/gulfstream/, as our course will
take us close to the Gulf Stream edge."

According to those current maps, if the current was closer inshore than
shown he perhaps is reducing his offing so to avoid the adverse current.

Wilbur Hubbard






Wilbur Hubbard


KLC Lewis October 4th 08 01:58 AM

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"Marty" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:



Ocean City doesn't look to good either!

Where the hell is he going?



Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted
to get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have
been the logical choice.


Indeed, particularly given what you say about a NW wind, would have been a
reach.

Cheers
Marty

Wilbur Hubbard


It's obviously a mail bouy run.



Jere Lull October 4th 08 03:24 AM

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On 2008-10-03 15:37:21 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article 2008100312141643658-jerelull@maccom, says...
On 2008-10-03 11:55:04 -0400, Gogarty said:

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?&glId=0sKGa9AJRCF45FaX5L5g6PLcZGvSb3 nMe


Just

make sure the whole address goes in your browser's address area. I
clicked on my original and brought up their current path.

Nope. Just a blank page with SPOT logo. The SPOT site isn't very helpful.


Looks to me like Skippy might be giving up and heading to port.

Position 48, 49, and 50 shows a turn toward Cape Charles. But, he can't
make it before nightfall so I hope he's familiar with the entrance to
Chesapeake Bay. Perhaps he's shooting for a morning arrival.

Wilbur Hubbard


Looks to me like they've been close-hauled in a southerly breeze, got
headed about 1 PM, tacked about 3 across a foul current, tacking back
about 7 on a course that'll let them skim the Outer Banks or get a
better line on the Bay. That 4-hour backtracking leg surprises me, but
might have gotten them out of the current as their tack at 7 gave them
a better than 90 degree leg -- and FP isn't that close-winded.

The near-shore forecast at the moment
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/Forecasts/FZUS51.KAKQ.html is showing S
winds going NE late with lingering SE swells, which supports at least
part of what I surmised.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages:
http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Marty[_2_] October 4th 08 03:31 AM

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Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-10-03 15:37:21 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article 2008100312141643658-jerelull@maccom,
says...
On 2008-10-03 11:55:04 -0400, Gogarty said:
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?&glId=0sKGa9AJRCF45FaX5L5g6PLcZGvSb3 nMe


Just

make sure the whole address goes in your browser's address area. I
clicked on my original and brought up their current path.

Nope. Just a blank page with SPOT logo. The SPOT site isn't very
helpful.


Looks to me like Skippy might be giving up and heading to port.

Position 48, 49, and 50 shows a turn toward Cape Charles. But, he
can't make it before nightfall so I hope he's familiar with the
entrance to Chesapeake Bay. Perhaps he's shooting for a morning arrival.

Wilbur Hubbard


Looks to me like they've been close-hauled in a southerly breeze, got
headed about 1 PM, tacked about 3 across a foul current, tacking back
about 7 on a course that'll let them skim the Outer Banks or get a
better line on the Bay. That 4-hour backtracking leg surprises me, but
might have gotten them out of the current as their tack at 7 gave them a
better than 90 degree leg -- and FP isn't that close-winded.

The near-shore forecast at the moment
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/Forecasts/FZUS51.KAKQ.html is showing S
winds going NE late with lingering SE swells, which supports at least
part of what I surmised.


I don't know what has happened, suddenly my spot page will not load
properly, no map, just a list of points and I can't get them to give me
position.

Would you mind posting the URL again using tinyurl.com?

Cheers
Marty


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