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Marty[_2_] October 2nd 08 02:59 AM

Flying Pig Float Plan
 
Marty wrote:
Larry wrote:
Jere Lull wrote in news:2008100120455150073-
jerelull@maccom:

Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping
Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets
them move locally.



Latitude :
40.3502
Longitude :
-73.8465
Time :
Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:02:08 PM


Larry, how do you get Spot to give you the coordinates?

Cheers
Marty




Belay that request, figured it out. Now how about how to get them in
dd.mm.ss?

Cheers
Marty

Steve October 2nd 08 11:49 AM

Flying Pig Float Plan
 

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:09:25 +0000, Larry wrote:

Jere Lull wrote in news:2008100120455150073-
jerelull@maccom:

Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping
Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets
them move locally.



Latitude :
40.3502
Longitude :
-73.8465
Time :
Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:02:08 PM


He's passing right through my day cruise grounds now, off the New
Jersey coast. I'll be interested to see if he takes the Cape May
canal, up the Delaware Bay and through the C&D into the Chesapeake. Or
if he goes around Cape May without going through the canal. Or just
stays offshore.

Steve

Goofball_star_dot_etal October 2nd 08 03:31 PM

Flying Pig Float Plan
 
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:49:40 GMT, Steve wrote:


On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:09:25 +0000, Larry wrote:

Jere Lull wrote in news:2008100120455150073-
jerelull@maccom:

Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping
Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets
them move locally.



Latitude :
40.3502
Longitude :
-73.8465
Time :
Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:02:08 PM


He's passing right through my day cruise grounds now, off the New
Jersey coast. I'll be interested to see if he takes the Cape May
canal, up the Delaware Bay and through the C&D into the Chesapeake. Or
if he goes around Cape May without going through the canal. Or just
stays offshore.


'25-35 knot winds, gusts to 50 knots, and 18-25' seas, while certainly
within the capabilities of crew and boat...."


Larry October 2nd 08 04:16 PM

Flying Pig Float Plan
 
Steve wrote in news:ml99e4lna5b7ito67e563qmrl7qsq4jo1u@
4ax.com:


On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:09:25 +0000, Larry wrote:

Jere Lull wrote in news:2008100120455150073-
jerelull@maccom:

Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping
Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets
them move locally.



Latitude :
40.3502
Longitude :
-73.8465
Time :
Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:02:08 PM


He's passing right through my day cruise grounds now, off the New
Jersey coast. I'll be interested to see if he takes the Cape May
canal, up the Delaware Bay and through the C&D into the Chesapeake. Or
if he goes around Cape May without going through the canal. Or just
stays offshore.

Steve


As a 46' ketch, I believe the plan is offshore all the way to Miami....as
she was designed for.

Are those canals clear for 7' or are they all silted in from neglect like
the ICW through SC is?

Hell, in some places where the channel used to be, an outboard motor drags
in the sand.


Jere Lull October 2nd 08 09:49 PM

Flying Pig Float Plan
 
On 2008-10-02 11:16:45 -0400, Larry said:

He's passing right through my day cruise grounds now, off the New
Jersey coast. I'll be interested to see if he takes the Cape May
canal, up the Delaware Bay and through the C&D into the Chesapeake. Or
if he goes around Cape May without going through the canal. Or just
stays offshore.

Steve


As a 46' ketch, I believe the plan is offshore all the way to Miami....as
she was designed for.

Are those canals clear for 7' or are they all silted in from neglect like
the ICW through SC is?

Hell, in some places where the channel used to be, an outboard motor drags
in the sand.


The C&D and Delaware River channel both are relative super-highways for
deep-draft cargo boats (possibly not the deepest-draft ones just yet)
going from Baltimore anywhere north. Finding 7' is NOT a problem there
or in the Cape May canal.

Another's post indicates this in their general area:
'25-35 knot winds, gusts to 50 knots, and 18-25' seas, while certainly
within the capabilities of crew and boat...."


Oh, BOY, I sure hope they ducked in somewhere by now if those are the
conditions they're in. The boat can handle it, but that sorta stuff
will challenge even the most testosterone-poisoned crew.

Looking at Spot just now, they haven't taken the right turn and are
well out from the coast, well past Cape May and making distance
consistently, so they're pretty much locked in for the next 24 hours.
The DelMarVa shoreline doesn't really offer hidey-holes and the weather
typically comes from the north.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Goofball_star_dot_etal October 2nd 08 10:05 PM

Flying Pig Float Plan
 
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:49:46 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

On 2008-10-02 11:16:45 -0400, Larry said:

He's passing right through my day cruise grounds now, off the New
Jersey coast. I'll be interested to see if he takes the Cape May
canal, up the Delaware Bay and through the C&D into the Chesapeake. Or
if he goes around Cape May without going through the canal. Or just
stays offshore.

Steve


As a 46' ketch, I believe the plan is offshore all the way to Miami....as
she was designed for.

Are those canals clear for 7' or are they all silted in from neglect like
the ICW through SC is?

Hell, in some places where the channel used to be, an outboard motor drags
in the sand.


The C&D and Delaware River channel both are relative super-highways for
deep-draft cargo boats (possibly not the deepest-draft ones just yet)
going from Baltimore anywhere north. Finding 7' is NOT a problem there
or in the Cape May canal.

Another's post indicates this in their general area:
'25-35 knot winds, gusts to 50 knots, and 18-25' seas, while certainly
within the capabilities of crew and boat...."


Oh, BOY, I sure hope they ducked in somewhere by now if those are the
conditions they're in. The boat can handle it, but that sorta stuff
will challenge even the most testosterone-poisoned crew.


Sorry for any confusion. That quotation was taken from "Dragon Lady,
Ruff Times and High Times" to illustrate Skip's 'cocky' attitude.


Looking at Spot just now, they haven't taken the right turn and are
well out from the coast, well past Cape May and making distance
consistently, so they're pretty much locked in for the next 24 hours.
The DelMarVa shoreline doesn't really offer hidey-holes and the weather
typically comes from the north.



Steve October 3rd 08 05:39 AM

Flying Pig Float Plan
 

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:16:45 +0000, Larry wrote:

Steve wrote in news:ml99e4lna5b7ito67e563qmrl7qsq4jo1u@
4ax.com:


On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:09:25 +0000, Larry wrote:

Jere Lull wrote in news:2008100120455150073-
jerelull@maccom:

Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping
Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets
them move locally.



Latitude :
40.3502
Longitude :
-73.8465
Time :
Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:02:08 PM


He's passing right through my day cruise grounds now, off the New
Jersey coast. I'll be interested to see if he takes the Cape May
canal, up the Delaware Bay and through the C&D into the Chesapeake. Or
if he goes around Cape May without going through the canal. Or just
stays offshore.

Steve


As a 46' ketch, I believe the plan is offshore all the way to Miami....as
she was designed for.

Are those canals clear for 7' or are they all silted in from neglect like
the ICW through SC is?

Hell, in some places where the channel used to be, an outboard motor drags
in the sand.


Cape May canal he would not make it through due to the probably height
of his mast. So if he wanted to head into the chesapeake via the
delaware bay, he would have to round the cape. Not something I'd
relish in the windy wavy conditions out there. Also, I wouldn't want
to be in the Delaware Bay now either. Short steep chop is no fun. He
could always wait out the trip up the bay in Cape May harbor. There's
a wonderful all weather inlet and a fine anchorage by the coast guard
station.

C&D canal was made for shipping and he'd have no problem in there.
Just stick to the side so you don't get run over.

As for staying outside vs. the chesapeake, it might only cost him an
extra day to do the chesapeake and it's definitely a safer, more
scenic trip with plenty of places to stop for services. Not much on
the outside.

Steve

Steve October 3rd 08 05:51 AM

Flying Pig Float Plan
 

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:49:46 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

Another's post indicates this in their general area:
'25-35 knot winds, gusts to 50 knots, and 18-25' seas, while certainly
within the capabilities of crew and boat...."


Oh, BOY, I sure hope they ducked in somewhere by now if those are the
conditions they're in. The boat can handle it, but that sorta stuff
will challenge even the most testosterone-poisoned crew.

Looking at Spot just now, they haven't taken the right turn and are
well out from the coast, well past Cape May and making distance
consistently, so they're pretty much locked in for the next 24 hours.
The DelMarVa shoreline doesn't really offer hidey-holes and the weather
typically comes from the north.


Yup, looks like he's staying offshore. And probably making some good
time. Great if you're in a hurry. But you miss some wonderful stuff
on the way. I guess he's in "delivery mode" instead of cruising mode.

At least it looks like things have calmed down a lot. Current
conditions from a weather buoy very close to him show wind speed of
10kts, gusts to 14, waves 2.3 ft, air temp 63F. Nice night for a
sail. Nicer than 12 hours ago when it was 23kts gusting to 27kts.

There's a current alert for Right Whales active in the area off
Delaware Bay.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44009

Steve

Jere Lull October 3rd 08 02:17 PM

Flying Pig Float Plan
 
On 2008-10-02 17:36:54 -0400, Gogarty said:

In article 2008100216494775249-jerelull@maccom, says...
On 2008-10-02 11:16:45 -0400, Larry said:


Looking at Spot just now, they haven't taken the right turn and are
well out from the coast, well past Cape May and making distance
consistently, so they're pretty much locked in for the next 24 hours.
The DelMarVa shoreline doesn't really offer hidey-holes and the weather
typically comes from the north.


I missed it somewhere. What is this "Spot" thing?


It's a commercial operation that allows others to see where subscribers
have been for the past few hours. Flying Pig's is:
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?&glId=0sKGa9AJRCF45FaX5L5g6PLcZGvSb3 nMe
--


Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages:
http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Jere Lull October 3rd 08 02:41 PM

Flying Pig Float Plan
 
On 2008-10-03 00:51:57 -0400, Steve said:

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:49:46 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

Another's post indicates this in their general area:
'25-35 knot winds, gusts to 50 knots, and 18-25' seas, while certainly
within the capabilities of crew and boat...."


Oh, BOY, I sure hope they ducked in somewhere by now if those are the
conditions they're in. The boat can handle it, but that sorta stuff
will challenge even the most testosterone-poisoned crew.


Glad to hear that was *not* a current report..

Looking at Spot just now, they haven't taken the right turn and are
well out from the coast, well past Cape May and making distance
consistently, so they're pretty much locked in for the next 24 hours.
The DelMarVa shoreline doesn't really offer hidey-holes and the weather
typically comes from the north.


Yup, looks like he's staying offshore. And probably making some good
time. Great if you're in a hurry. But you miss some wonderful stuff
on the way. I guess he's in "delivery mode" instead of cruising mode.


Yup. They're on a beeline to challenge Hattaras in a day or so.

At least it looks like things have calmed down a lot. Current
conditions from a weather buoy very close to him show wind speed of
10kts, gusts to 14, waves 2.3 ft, air temp 63F. Nice night for a
sail. Nicer than 12 hours ago when it was 23kts gusting to 27kts.

There's a current alert for Right Whales active in the area off
Delaware Bay.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44009

Steve


That's pretty cool. Hope they see some. Unluckily, the conditions have
gone light.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/



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