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Flying Pig Float Plan
Flying Pig Float Plan
We're going from Sandy Hook, NJ, to Miami, preferably in one jump. Barring last minute warnings against it, we're leaving Wednesday Oct. 1, PM. Based on the recommendations from Chris Parker, our weather consultant, for favorable winds and seas, we'll go on a rhumb line, the outward curve through Barnegat Bay excepted, from Sandy Hook NJ to Cape Hatteras, the first large jump being about 330 miles. We'll avoid, as much as possible any adverse current as seen on these two sites: https://oceanography.navy.mil/legacy.../145/0-0-17/24 and /32, plus http://rads.tudelft.nl/gulfstream/, as our course will take us close to the Gulf Stream edge. Once past Hatteras, we'll take another 300+mile jump to the GA coast area, again to avoid the Gulf Stream. From there we'll take another rhumb line run of about 300 miles to about West Palm Beach, avoiding the Gulf Stream as seen in the above plus /16, the southern portion, which shows that a straight line would have us crossing the Gulf Stream's adverse current. Once in the West Palm Beach, or so, area, we'll have to stay close to shore, as the Gulf Stream is very close in that area. Sailmail (over SSB radio) contact will be available through my son David , in the event of emergency. You'll be able to track our progress on our SPOT shared page, http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...PLcZGvSb3 nMe if you're interested. We'll also send "OK" messages via Spot on a daily basis to our primary family, as before. We intend daily reports via sailmail, as well as having our SPOT (http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...PLcZGvSb3 nMe) on continuously during our passage. At this time weather, wind and currents all look very good for our passage, but in the event that changes, or there are equipment difficulties which suggest otherwise, we'll not hesitate to come in from wherever we are at the time. See our log listings for the daily reports... L8R Skip and Lydia (and Portia, of course!) Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) |
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That's one stupid float plan, Skippy. Do it right for once. Sail from Sandy Hook to Bermuda. Then from Bermuda to Nassau. Forget about Miami. From Sandy Hook go when the weather window to Bermuda is fair and safe. Stay a while in Bermuda to check for possible tropical storms that could develop for the next leg. Depart Bermuda when there's a good and safe weather window to the Bahamas. Wilbur Hubbard "Skip Gundlach" wrote in message ... Flying Pig Float Plan We're going from Sandy Hook, NJ, to Miami, preferably in one jump. Barring last minute warnings against it, we're leaving Wednesday Oct. 1, PM. Based on the recommendations from Chris Parker, our weather consultant, for favorable winds and seas, we'll go on a rhumb line, the outward curve through Barnegat Bay excepted, from Sandy Hook NJ to Cape Hatteras, the first large jump being about 330 miles. We'll avoid, as much as possible any adverse current as seen on these two sites: https://oceanography.navy.mil/legacy.../145/0-0-17/24 and /32, plus http://rads.tudelft.nl/gulfstream/, as our course will take us close to the Gulf Stream edge. Once past Hatteras, we'll take another 300+mile jump to the GA coast area, again to avoid the Gulf Stream. From there we'll take another rhumb line run of about 300 miles to about West Palm Beach, avoiding the Gulf Stream as seen in the above plus /16, the southern portion, which shows that a straight line would have us crossing the Gulf Stream's adverse current. Once in the West Palm Beach, or so, area, we'll have to stay close to shore, as the Gulf Stream is very close in that area. Sailmail (over SSB radio) contact will be available through my son David , in the event of emergency. You'll be able to track our progress on our SPOT shared page, http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...PLcZGvSb3 nMe if you're interested. We'll also send "OK" messages via Spot on a daily basis to our primary family, as before. We intend daily reports via sailmail, as well as having our SPOT (http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...PLcZGvSb3 nMe) on continuously during our passage. At this time weather, wind and currents all look very good for our passage, but in the event that changes, or there are equipment difficulties which suggest otherwise, we'll not hesitate to come in from wherever we are at the time. See our log listings for the daily reports... L8R Skip and Lydia (and Portia, of course!) Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com... That's one stupid float plan, Skippy. Do it right for once. Sail from Sandy Hook to Bermuda. Then from Bermuda to Nassau. Forget about Miami. From Sandy Hook go when the weather window to Bermuda is fair and safe. Stay a while in Bermuda to check for possible tropical storms that could develop for the next leg. Depart Bermuda when there's a good and safe weather window to the Bahamas. Wilbur Hubbard Good idea - but Lydia's mom would rather join us in MIA :{)) Not to mention two of our angels, Steve and Mike, who will also join us on that side. Next time, maybe... -- L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) |
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Skip Gundlach wrote:
Flying Pig Float Plan We're going from Sandy Hook, NJ, to Miami, preferably in one jump. Barring last minute warnings against it, we're leaving Wednesday Oct. 1, PM. Today is Wed. Oct. 1, it's now 1600 and still nothing on Spot. Having troubles pulling up the hook? :-) Fair Winds, Gods Speed Cheers Martin |
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Nope - just finishing up before we head to the fuel, water and
pumpout. You should see something in the next few minutes, as Lydia's activating it as I type... -- L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) "Marty" wrote in message ... Skip Gundlach wrote: Flying Pig Float Plan We're going from Sandy Hook, NJ, to Miami, preferably in one jump. Barring last minute warnings against it, we're leaving Wednesday Oct. 1, PM. Today is Wed. Oct. 1, it's now 1600 and still nothing on Spot. Having troubles pulling up the hook? :-) Fair Winds, Gods Speed Cheers Martin |
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Skip Gundlach wrote:
Nope - just finishing up before we head to the fuel, water and pumpout. You should see something in the next few minutes, as Lydia's activating it as I type... Nothing yet (1700), I am looking forward to following your journey! Good Luck Cheers Marty, soon to be on the hard, (Oct 19). ;-(( |
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On 2008-10-01 16:59:45 -0400, Marty said:
Skip Gundlach wrote: Nope - just finishing up before we head to the fuel, water and pumpout. You should see something in the next few minutes, as Lydia's activating it as I type... Nothing yet (1700), I am looking forward to following your journey! Good Luck Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets them move locally. Mid-Atlantic weather this time of year is not reliably predictable, and Hatarass creates its own foul weather at whim. Dang, I sound like Chicken Little, but we're talking about my back yard. IF FP ignores me, I hope with all my heart that they have an uneventful passage as I wish them absolutely no ill, only fair passages, but I know and respect this area's weather patterns too well. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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Check the spot page again. As of this writing it shows us about where
we are, and the course we took from the gas dock to here. I'd never believe it but we're on line way the hell off shore... -- L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) "Jere Lull" wrote in message news:2008100120455150073-jerelull@maccom... On 2008-10-01 16:59:45 -0400, Marty said: Skip Gundlach wrote: Nope - just finishing up before we head to the fuel, water and pumpout. You should see something in the next few minutes, as Lydia's activating it as I type... Nothing yet (1700), I am looking forward to following your journey! Good Luck Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets them move locally. Mid-Atlantic weather this time of year is not reliably predictable, and Hatarass creates its own foul weather at whim. Dang, I sound like Chicken Little, but we're talking about my back yard. IF FP ignores me, I hope with all my heart that they have an uneventful passage as I wish them absolutely no ill, only fair passages, but I know and respect this area's weather patterns too well. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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Jere Lull wrote in news:2008100120455150073-
jerelull@maccom: Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets them move locally. Latitude : 40.3502 Longitude : -73.8465 Time : Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:02:08 PM |
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Larry wrote:
Jere Lull wrote in news:2008100120455150073- jerelull@maccom: Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets them move locally. Latitude : 40.3502 Longitude : -73.8465 Time : Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:02:08 PM Larry, how do you get Spot to give you the coordinates? Cheers Marty |
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Marty wrote:
Larry wrote: Jere Lull wrote in news:2008100120455150073- jerelull@maccom: Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets them move locally. Latitude : 40.3502 Longitude : -73.8465 Time : Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:02:08 PM Larry, how do you get Spot to give you the coordinates? Cheers Marty Belay that request, figured it out. Now how about how to get them in dd.mm.ss? Cheers Marty |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:09:25 +0000, Larry wrote: Jere Lull wrote in news:2008100120455150073- jerelull@maccom: Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets them move locally. Latitude : 40.3502 Longitude : -73.8465 Time : Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:02:08 PM He's passing right through my day cruise grounds now, off the New Jersey coast. I'll be interested to see if he takes the Cape May canal, up the Delaware Bay and through the C&D into the Chesapeake. Or if he goes around Cape May without going through the canal. Or just stays offshore. Steve |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:49:40 GMT, Steve wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:09:25 +0000, Larry wrote: Jere Lull wrote in news:2008100120455150073- jerelull@maccom: Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets them move locally. Latitude : 40.3502 Longitude : -73.8465 Time : Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:02:08 PM He's passing right through my day cruise grounds now, off the New Jersey coast. I'll be interested to see if he takes the Cape May canal, up the Delaware Bay and through the C&D into the Chesapeake. Or if he goes around Cape May without going through the canal. Or just stays offshore. '25-35 knot winds, gusts to 50 knots, and 18-25' seas, while certainly within the capabilities of crew and boat...." |
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Steve wrote in news:ml99e4lna5b7ito67e563qmrl7qsq4jo1u@
4ax.com: On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:09:25 +0000, Larry wrote: Jere Lull wrote in news:2008100120455150073- jerelull@maccom: Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets them move locally. Latitude : 40.3502 Longitude : -73.8465 Time : Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:02:08 PM He's passing right through my day cruise grounds now, off the New Jersey coast. I'll be interested to see if he takes the Cape May canal, up the Delaware Bay and through the C&D into the Chesapeake. Or if he goes around Cape May without going through the canal. Or just stays offshore. Steve As a 46' ketch, I believe the plan is offshore all the way to Miami....as she was designed for. Are those canals clear for 7' or are they all silted in from neglect like the ICW through SC is? Hell, in some places where the channel used to be, an outboard motor drags in the sand. |
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On 2008-10-02 11:16:45 -0400, Larry said:
He's passing right through my day cruise grounds now, off the New Jersey coast. I'll be interested to see if he takes the Cape May canal, up the Delaware Bay and through the C&D into the Chesapeake. Or if he goes around Cape May without going through the canal. Or just stays offshore. Steve As a 46' ketch, I believe the plan is offshore all the way to Miami....as she was designed for. Are those canals clear for 7' or are they all silted in from neglect like the ICW through SC is? Hell, in some places where the channel used to be, an outboard motor drags in the sand. The C&D and Delaware River channel both are relative super-highways for deep-draft cargo boats (possibly not the deepest-draft ones just yet) going from Baltimore anywhere north. Finding 7' is NOT a problem there or in the Cape May canal. Another's post indicates this in their general area: '25-35 knot winds, gusts to 50 knots, and 18-25' seas, while certainly within the capabilities of crew and boat...." Oh, BOY, I sure hope they ducked in somewhere by now if those are the conditions they're in. The boat can handle it, but that sorta stuff will challenge even the most testosterone-poisoned crew. Looking at Spot just now, they haven't taken the right turn and are well out from the coast, well past Cape May and making distance consistently, so they're pretty much locked in for the next 24 hours. The DelMarVa shoreline doesn't really offer hidey-holes and the weather typically comes from the north. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:49:46 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-10-02 11:16:45 -0400, Larry said: He's passing right through my day cruise grounds now, off the New Jersey coast. I'll be interested to see if he takes the Cape May canal, up the Delaware Bay and through the C&D into the Chesapeake. Or if he goes around Cape May without going through the canal. Or just stays offshore. Steve As a 46' ketch, I believe the plan is offshore all the way to Miami....as she was designed for. Are those canals clear for 7' or are they all silted in from neglect like the ICW through SC is? Hell, in some places where the channel used to be, an outboard motor drags in the sand. The C&D and Delaware River channel both are relative super-highways for deep-draft cargo boats (possibly not the deepest-draft ones just yet) going from Baltimore anywhere north. Finding 7' is NOT a problem there or in the Cape May canal. Another's post indicates this in their general area: '25-35 knot winds, gusts to 50 knots, and 18-25' seas, while certainly within the capabilities of crew and boat...." Oh, BOY, I sure hope they ducked in somewhere by now if those are the conditions they're in. The boat can handle it, but that sorta stuff will challenge even the most testosterone-poisoned crew. Sorry for any confusion. That quotation was taken from "Dragon Lady, Ruff Times and High Times" to illustrate Skip's 'cocky' attitude. Looking at Spot just now, they haven't taken the right turn and are well out from the coast, well past Cape May and making distance consistently, so they're pretty much locked in for the next 24 hours. The DelMarVa shoreline doesn't really offer hidey-holes and the weather typically comes from the north. |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:16:45 +0000, Larry wrote: Steve wrote in news:ml99e4lna5b7ito67e563qmrl7qsq4jo1u@ 4ax.com: On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:09:25 +0000, Larry wrote: Jere Lull wrote in news:2008100120455150073- jerelull@maccom: Nothing on Spot yet as of 20:33 here (dark o'clock), and I'm hoping Flying Pig decided to take the Chesapeake/ICW when the weather lets them move locally. Latitude : 40.3502 Longitude : -73.8465 Time : Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:02:08 PM He's passing right through my day cruise grounds now, off the New Jersey coast. I'll be interested to see if he takes the Cape May canal, up the Delaware Bay and through the C&D into the Chesapeake. Or if he goes around Cape May without going through the canal. Or just stays offshore. Steve As a 46' ketch, I believe the plan is offshore all the way to Miami....as she was designed for. Are those canals clear for 7' or are they all silted in from neglect like the ICW through SC is? Hell, in some places where the channel used to be, an outboard motor drags in the sand. Cape May canal he would not make it through due to the probably height of his mast. So if he wanted to head into the chesapeake via the delaware bay, he would have to round the cape. Not something I'd relish in the windy wavy conditions out there. Also, I wouldn't want to be in the Delaware Bay now either. Short steep chop is no fun. He could always wait out the trip up the bay in Cape May harbor. There's a wonderful all weather inlet and a fine anchorage by the coast guard station. C&D canal was made for shipping and he'd have no problem in there. Just stick to the side so you don't get run over. As for staying outside vs. the chesapeake, it might only cost him an extra day to do the chesapeake and it's definitely a safer, more scenic trip with plenty of places to stop for services. Not much on the outside. Steve |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:49:46 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: Another's post indicates this in their general area: '25-35 knot winds, gusts to 50 knots, and 18-25' seas, while certainly within the capabilities of crew and boat...." Oh, BOY, I sure hope they ducked in somewhere by now if those are the conditions they're in. The boat can handle it, but that sorta stuff will challenge even the most testosterone-poisoned crew. Looking at Spot just now, they haven't taken the right turn and are well out from the coast, well past Cape May and making distance consistently, so they're pretty much locked in for the next 24 hours. The DelMarVa shoreline doesn't really offer hidey-holes and the weather typically comes from the north. Yup, looks like he's staying offshore. And probably making some good time. Great if you're in a hurry. But you miss some wonderful stuff on the way. I guess he's in "delivery mode" instead of cruising mode. At least it looks like things have calmed down a lot. Current conditions from a weather buoy very close to him show wind speed of 10kts, gusts to 14, waves 2.3 ft, air temp 63F. Nice night for a sail. Nicer than 12 hours ago when it was 23kts gusting to 27kts. There's a current alert for Right Whales active in the area off Delaware Bay. http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44009 Steve |
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On 2008-10-02 17:36:54 -0400, Gogarty said:
In article 2008100216494775249-jerelull@maccom, says... On 2008-10-02 11:16:45 -0400, Larry said: Looking at Spot just now, they haven't taken the right turn and are well out from the coast, well past Cape May and making distance consistently, so they're pretty much locked in for the next 24 hours. The DelMarVa shoreline doesn't really offer hidey-holes and the weather typically comes from the north. I missed it somewhere. What is this "Spot" thing? It's a commercial operation that allows others to see where subscribers have been for the past few hours. Flying Pig's is: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?&glId=0sKGa9AJRCF45FaX5L5g6PLcZGvSb3 nMe -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On 2008-10-03 00:51:57 -0400, Steve said:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:49:46 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: Another's post indicates this in their general area: '25-35 knot winds, gusts to 50 knots, and 18-25' seas, while certainly within the capabilities of crew and boat...." Oh, BOY, I sure hope they ducked in somewhere by now if those are the conditions they're in. The boat can handle it, but that sorta stuff will challenge even the most testosterone-poisoned crew. Glad to hear that was *not* a current report.. Looking at Spot just now, they haven't taken the right turn and are well out from the coast, well past Cape May and making distance consistently, so they're pretty much locked in for the next 24 hours. The DelMarVa shoreline doesn't really offer hidey-holes and the weather typically comes from the north. Yup, looks like he's staying offshore. And probably making some good time. Great if you're in a hurry. But you miss some wonderful stuff on the way. I guess he's in "delivery mode" instead of cruising mode. Yup. They're on a beeline to challenge Hattaras in a day or so. At least it looks like things have calmed down a lot. Current conditions from a weather buoy very close to him show wind speed of 10kts, gusts to 14, waves 2.3 ft, air temp 63F. Nice night for a sail. Nicer than 12 hours ago when it was 23kts gusting to 27kts. There's a current alert for Right Whales active in the area off Delaware Bay. http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44009 Steve That's pretty cool. Hope they see some. Unluckily, the conditions have gone light. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:51:57 GMT, Steve wrote:
Yup, looks like he's staying offshore. And probably making some good time. Great if you're in a hurry. But you miss some wonderful stuff on the way. I guess he's in "delivery mode" instead of cruising mode. Seems to me Skip really likes *sailing* Not too many restaurant reports from him. After his initial mishap, the wind has carried him many miles. I'll bet that sticks in some craws. --Vic |
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"Gogarty" wrote in message ... In article 2008100312141643658-jerelull@maccom, says... On 2008-10-03 11:55:04 -0400, Gogarty said: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...KGa9AJRCF45FaX 5L5g6PLcZGvSb3nMe Just make sure the whole address goes in your browser's address area. I clicked on my original and brought up their current path. Nope. Just a blank page with SPOT logo. The SPOT site isn't very helpful. http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?&glId=0sKGa9AJRCF45FaX5L5g6PLcZGvSb3 nMe Try the above. If it doesn't work copy and pasted it all into you browser. (except the carets which are included to make it one continuous link. It works for me but poor Skippy must either be motoring or has very light winds as he seems to be going very slowly. Maybe bucking some Gulf Stream current. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Gogarty" wrote in message ... In article 2008100312141643658-jerelull@maccom, says... On 2008-10-03 11:55:04 -0400, Gogarty said: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...KGa9AJRCF45FaX 5L5g6PLcZGvSb3nMe Just make sure the whole address goes in your browser's address area. I clicked on my original and brought up their current path. Nope. Just a blank page with SPOT logo. The SPOT site isn't very helpful. Looks to me like Skippy might be giving up and heading to port. Position 48, 49, and 50 shows a turn toward Cape Charles. But, he can't make it before nightfall so I hope he's familiar with the entrance to Chesapeake Bay. Perhaps he's shooting for a morning arrival. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Gogarty" skrev i en meddelelse ... Nope. Just a blank page with SPOT logo. The SPOT site isn't very helpful. From my position in Denmark, just out of curiosity, I tried the link to SPOT, and I can now see track 50 of the Flying Pig ... no problems. It seems they have turned to about NW ... from a southerly course - right? Latitude : 37.0018 Longitude : -74.3879 Time : 3. oktober 2008 21:55:48 - This is local time Copenhagen ... among others .... Here in Scandinavia, we have free access to www.gpsgate.com ... similar service ... you "just" need an internet connection ... -- best regards Flemming Torp - Gimle - X-342 - DEN-61 - Helsingør |
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:37:21 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Gogarty" wrote in message ... In article 2008100312141643658-jerelull@maccom, says... On 2008-10-03 11:55:04 -0400, Gogarty said: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...KGa9AJRCF45FaX 5L5g6PLcZGvSb3nMe Just make sure the whole address goes in your browser's address area. I clicked on my original and brought up their current path. Nope. Just a blank page with SPOT logo. The SPOT site isn't very helpful. Looks to me like Skippy might be giving up and heading to port. Position 48, 49, and 50 shows a turn toward Cape Charles. But, he can't make it before nightfall so I hope he's familiar with the entrance to Chesapeake Bay. Perhaps he's shooting for a morning arrival. Wilbur Hubbard Don't fret, Wilbur. They are just shagging each other to death. |
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dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole. |
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Two meter troll wrote:
dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole. Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet? Cheers Marty |
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Marty wrote:
Two meter troll wrote: dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole. Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet? How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep enough there? Cheers Marty |
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Marty wrote:
Marty wrote: Two meter troll wrote: dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole. Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet? How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep enough there? Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in there! Cheers Marty |
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Marty wrote:
Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Two meter troll wrote: dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole. Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet? How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep enough there? Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in there! Ocean City doesn't look to good either! Where the hell is he going? Cheers Marty |
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"Marty" wrote in message ... Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Two meter troll wrote: dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole. Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet? How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep enough there? Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in there! Ocean City doesn't look to good either! Where the hell is he going? Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted to get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been the logical choice. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:16:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Marty" wrote in message m... Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Two meter troll wrote: dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole. Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet? How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep enough there? Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in there! Ocean City doesn't look to good either! Where the hell is he going? Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted to get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been the logical choice. It's a zig before a zag.. |
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:16:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Marty" wrote in message m... Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Two meter troll wrote: dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole. Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet? How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep enough there? Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in there! Ocean City doesn't look to good either! Where the hell is he going? Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted to get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been the logical choice. Wilbur Hubbard Skip often makes unusual meandering course changes that make little sense to onlookers. It's even possible that he is just killing time until morning, because it would have been dark by the time he reached the Chesapeake Bay and he doesn't want to attempt it at night. |
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"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message ... On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:16:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Marty" wrote in message om... Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Two meter troll wrote: dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole. Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet? How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep enough there? Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in there! Ocean City doesn't look to good either! Where the hell is he going? Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted to get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been the logical choice. It's a zig before a zag.. If there were westerly winds you might be right but it appears there are NW winds so he must be motoring on his present course. http://www.octhebeach.com/info/ocean...ture-wind.html Wilbur Hubbard |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
Ocean City doesn't look to good either! Where the hell is he going? Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted to get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been the logical choice. Indeed, particularly given what you say about a NW wind, would have been a reach. Cheers Marty Wilbur Hubbard |
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:16:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Marty" wrote in message om... Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Two meter troll wrote: dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole. Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet? How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep enough there? Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in there! Ocean City doesn't look to good either! Where the hell is he going? Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted to get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been the logical choice. Wilbur Hubbard Skip often makes unusual meandering course changes that make little sense to onlookers. It's even possible that he is just killing time until morning, because it would have been dark by the time he reached the Chesapeake Bay and he doesn't want to attempt it at night. He was far enough offshore that, with the 15knot NW wind forecast in that area, he could have beat straight into Chesapeake bay at about 5-6 knots and would not have arrived there until by about mid-morning. He doesn't need to kill time by going NW. Besides, he made no mention of a stop in Chesapeake Bay in his float plan. . .. "We're going from Sandy Hook, NJ, to Miami, preferably in one jump. Barring last minute warnings against it, we're leaving Wednesday Oct. 1, PM. "Based on the recommendations from Chris Parker, our weather consultant, for favorable winds and seas, we'll go on a rhumb line, the outward curve through Barnegat Bay excepted, from Sandy Hook NJ to Cape Hatteras, the first large jump being about 330 miles. We'll avoid, as much as possible any adverse current as seen on these two sites: https://oceanography.navy.mil/legacy...c.pl/metoc/223... and /32, plus http://rads.tudelft.nl/gulfstream/, as our course will take us close to the Gulf Stream edge." According to those current maps, if the current was closer inshore than shown he perhaps is reducing his offing so to avoid the adverse current. Wilbur Hubbard Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Marty" wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: Ocean City doesn't look to good either! Where the hell is he going? Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted to get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been the logical choice. Indeed, particularly given what you say about a NW wind, would have been a reach. Cheers Marty Wilbur Hubbard It's obviously a mail bouy run. |
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On 2008-10-03 15:37:21 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said: "Gogarty" wrote in message ... In article 2008100312141643658-jerelull@maccom, says... On 2008-10-03 11:55:04 -0400, Gogarty said: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?&glId=0sKGa9AJRCF45FaX5L5g6PLcZGvSb3 nMe Just make sure the whole address goes in your browser's address area. I clicked on my original and brought up their current path. Nope. Just a blank page with SPOT logo. The SPOT site isn't very helpful. Looks to me like Skippy might be giving up and heading to port. Position 48, 49, and 50 shows a turn toward Cape Charles. But, he can't make it before nightfall so I hope he's familiar with the entrance to Chesapeake Bay. Perhaps he's shooting for a morning arrival. Wilbur Hubbard Looks to me like they've been close-hauled in a southerly breeze, got headed about 1 PM, tacked about 3 across a foul current, tacking back about 7 on a course that'll let them skim the Outer Banks or get a better line on the Bay. That 4-hour backtracking leg surprises me, but might have gotten them out of the current as their tack at 7 gave them a better than 90 degree leg -- and FP isn't that close-winded. The near-shore forecast at the moment http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/Forecasts/FZUS51.KAKQ.html is showing S winds going NE late with lingering SE swells, which supports at least part of what I surmised. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-10-03 15:37:21 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" said: "Gogarty" wrote in message ... In article 2008100312141643658-jerelull@maccom, says... On 2008-10-03 11:55:04 -0400, Gogarty said: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?&glId=0sKGa9AJRCF45FaX5L5g6PLcZGvSb3 nMe Just make sure the whole address goes in your browser's address area. I clicked on my original and brought up their current path. Nope. Just a blank page with SPOT logo. The SPOT site isn't very helpful. Looks to me like Skippy might be giving up and heading to port. Position 48, 49, and 50 shows a turn toward Cape Charles. But, he can't make it before nightfall so I hope he's familiar with the entrance to Chesapeake Bay. Perhaps he's shooting for a morning arrival. Wilbur Hubbard Looks to me like they've been close-hauled in a southerly breeze, got headed about 1 PM, tacked about 3 across a foul current, tacking back about 7 on a course that'll let them skim the Outer Banks or get a better line on the Bay. That 4-hour backtracking leg surprises me, but might have gotten them out of the current as their tack at 7 gave them a better than 90 degree leg -- and FP isn't that close-winded. The near-shore forecast at the moment http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/Forecasts/FZUS51.KAKQ.html is showing S winds going NE late with lingering SE swells, which supports at least part of what I surmised. I don't know what has happened, suddenly my spot page will not load properly, no map, just a list of points and I can't get them to give me position. Would you mind posting the URL again using tinyurl.com? Cheers Marty |
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