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Rodney Myrvaagnes
 
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 23:01:09 -0700, "Steve" wrote:

I've read a few books by Don Street and have a couple sailing videos of his
as well. I respect his knowledge while I consider him a bit excentric. His
boats and sailing gear and methods always seem well on to the "Salty Side"
of the scale. One thing for sure, "Don doesn't have to explain" why he does
the things he does when it comes to onboard routines". At least that's the
impression I get..

I have watched his sailing video of one of his Atlantic crossing on "Isle
Aire" with a crew that seemed to worship him and his ways.

One thing from that video that leaves me with a question that I haven't been
able to resolve.

Don, goes on a rant about someone putting a figure "8" Stopper Knot in the
end of a sheet. Something I have been doing for 40 years of sailing. To me,
it keeps the lazy sheet from being pulled through the sheet lead block.
Anyway, if there was a reason for "not" putting a Stopper Knot in the sheet
end, it must have been edited out of the footage I have seen and no where in
his books does he mentions a reason (that I can recall).

How about it, can anyone persuade me not to put a Stopper Knot in my
sheets??

(You see, I'm getting old and grouchy to.)

Also old and grouchy, I do put stoppers on the jib sheets, but never
on the spinnaker sheets/guys.

It may be necessary in extremis to let the spinnaker fly, but the jib
can be released without losing the end of the sheet.



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Rich Hampel
 
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Yup, that's called a 'stevedore", always releases.

In article , Keith
wrote:

I don't know what it's called, but I make a stopper knot by making a bend in
the line, wrapping the bitter end around the standing part 3-4 times, then
passing the bitter end through the bend and tighten the whole thing up.
Works well, and can usually be undone fairly easily.

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Yup, that's called a 'stevedore", always releases.

In article , Keith
wrote:

I don't know what it's called, but I make a stopper knot by making a bend in
the line, wrapping the bitter end around the standing part 3-4 times, then
passing the bitter end through the bend and tighten the whole thing up.
Works well, and can usually be undone fairly easily.

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How about it, can anyone persuade me not to put a Stopper Knot in my
sheets??


If things are going so well that you're going to wind up with a knot in your
sheets, the last thing you would want to do would be to stop her.........(oh,
sorry, not the same thing......)
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How about it, can anyone persuade me not to put a Stopper Knot in my
sheets??


If things are going so well that you're going to wind up with a knot in your
sheets, the last thing you would want to do would be to stop her.........(oh,
sorry, not the same thing......)


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Thanks for all the replys. However I will probably continue my practice on
my sheets and halyards (I'm too old to climb the mast or chase a wild genoa
sheet. (since I have never sailed (in 40+ yr) with a spinniker and at 67,
single handing I doubt I ever will).

The way I'm presently set up, I have 2 different genoas and a working jib
and use a roller furlering (as just a furler, seldom use it for roller
reefing). However I use the same sheet on with sheet Bowline in each.. In my
youth, I got the crap beat out of me by a wild working jib with a 3/8"
shackle and two stainless thimbles. It's just as quick to tie two knots as
it is to 'screw' around with a shackle and pin. I avoid any 'hardware' on
the jib/genoa clew. If the clew grommet corrodes, as many do, I replace it
with nylon webbing.

Talk about "a vain old man holding court".

Thanks for the comments and I'm still open to further rhyme or reason.

Steve
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Thanks for all the replys. However I will probably continue my practice on
my sheets and halyards (I'm too old to climb the mast or chase a wild genoa
sheet. (since I have never sailed (in 40+ yr) with a spinniker and at 67,
single handing I doubt I ever will).

The way I'm presently set up, I have 2 different genoas and a working jib
and use a roller furlering (as just a furler, seldom use it for roller
reefing). However I use the same sheet on with sheet Bowline in each.. In my
youth, I got the crap beat out of me by a wild working jib with a 3/8"
shackle and two stainless thimbles. It's just as quick to tie two knots as
it is to 'screw' around with a shackle and pin. I avoid any 'hardware' on
the jib/genoa clew. If the clew grommet corrodes, as many do, I replace it
with nylon webbing.

Talk about "a vain old man holding court".

Thanks for the comments and I'm still open to further rhyme or reason.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions


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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 07:28:24 -0700, "Steve" wrote:

Thanks for all the replys. However I will probably continue my practice on
my sheets and halyards (I'm too old to climb the mast or chase a wild genoa
sheet. (since I have never sailed (in 40+ yr) with a spinniker and at 67,
single handing I doubt I ever will).


Young whippersnapper. :-) Actually, I am 68. I only fly the chute when
my wife is with me. Single-handing, no. Not yet anyway.

If I get enough confidence in the new autopilot I might try it this
year.

Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 07:28:24 -0700, "Steve" wrote:

Thanks for all the replys. However I will probably continue my practice on
my sheets and halyards (I'm too old to climb the mast or chase a wild genoa
sheet. (since I have never sailed (in 40+ yr) with a spinniker and at 67,
single handing I doubt I ever will).


Young whippersnapper. :-) Actually, I am 68. I only fly the chute when
my wife is with me. Single-handing, no. Not yet anyway.

If I get enough confidence in the new autopilot I might try it this
year.

Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Wanting to meet a writer because you like his work is like wanting to meet a duck because you like pate."
Margaret Atwood
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"Rodney Myrvaagnes" wrote in message

If I get enough confidence in the new autopilot I might try it this
year.


I use the autopilot for all of my sail handling and switch to the Aries
windvane once things settle down.. I'm very conservative about the sail I
fly while single handing and always have this nagging vision of me in the
water in my boats wake as it sails under vane or pilot without regard for
her missing skipper.

I wear a SOS w/harness but seldom clip in while in the cockpit. The tether
gets in the way around a tiller while managing sheets for both Genoa and
Staysail and Main.

I'm still trying to workout the routing of my jack lines since I have so
much going on on the cabin top. They may have to run down the side deck to
avoid tangles with the cabin top clutter.

Steve
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