"Larry" wrote in message
...
Ryk wrote in
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Do I need more to be legit in the US?

Let's make a deal. You get your bureaucrats to stop forcing us to buy an
expensive ship license just to go to Canada......and we'll get our
bureaucrats to stop forcing you to buy an expensive ship license just to
go
to Florida.

Deal?

One of the benefits of the "New World Order" finally creating the North
American Union will be "local" will be all the way to the southern tip of
Mexico and our Ameros will all be the same money. No license will be
necessary for any NAU ship in this hemisphere....


Hi Larry.
Maybe you can answer this one for me.
I imported my boat from USA and it was equipped with a nice little Standard
Horizon Eclipse + VHF set.
Over here you need a licence to use VHF even on a pleasure boat and they
refused to licence this set for me, saying that it had 'American channels'
on it and could not be licenced in Europe.
I had to state on my licence application exactly what set I was using
and.had to replace it with a locally approved ICOM set.
I had powered up the Standard Horizon and channel 16 seemed to be the same
and all the other channels had familiar numbers. I found no problem picking
up ship-to ship traffic either.
Certainly there were some additional channels, which I gather were weather
channels, which were unfamiliar to me...
Are the niumbered channels the same everywhere, even if in different areas
their designated usage may vary?
Do you think they were unreasonable to make me take this set out?
...

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:05:44 +0200, "Edgar"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
.. .
Ryk wrote in
:

Do I need more to be legit in the US?

Let's make a deal. You get your bureaucrats to stop forcing us to buy an
expensive ship license just to go to Canada......and we'll get our
bureaucrats to stop forcing you to buy an expensive ship license just to
go
to Florida.

Deal?

One of the benefits of the "New World Order" finally creating the North
American Union will be "local" will be all the way to the southern tip of
Mexico and our Ameros will all be the same money. No license will be
necessary for any NAU ship in this hemisphere....


Hi Larry.
Maybe you can answer this one for me.
I imported my boat from USA and it was equipped with a nice little Standard
Horizon Eclipse + VHF set.
Over here you need a licence to use VHF even on a pleasure boat and they
refused to licence this set for me, saying that it had 'American channels'
on it and could not be licenced in Europe.
I had to state on my licence application exactly what set I was using
and.had to replace it with a locally approved ICOM set.
I had powered up the Standard Horizon and channel 16 seemed to be the same
and all the other channels had familiar numbers. I found no problem picking
up ship-to ship traffic either.
Certainly there were some additional channels, which I gather were weather
channels, which were unfamiliar to me...
Are the niumbered channels the same everywhere, even if in different areas
their designated usage may vary?
Do you think they were unreasonable to make me take this set out?
..

Apparently there are different channels depending on whether you are
in the US or outside as my ICOM has a selection - USA and INT.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

"Edgar" wrote in
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Hi Larry.
Maybe you can answer this one for me.
I imported my boat from USA and it was equipped with a nice little
Standard
Horizon Eclipse + VHF set.
Over here you need a licence to use VHF even on a pleasure boat and
they refused to licence this set for me, saying that it had 'American
channels' on it and could not be licenced in Europe.
I had to state on my licence application exactly what set I was using
and.had to replace it with a locally approved ICOM set.
I had powered up the Standard Horizon and channel 16 seemed to be the
same and all the other channels had familiar numbers. I found no
problem picking up ship-to ship traffic either.
Certainly there were some additional channels, which I gather were
weather
channels, which were unfamiliar to me...
Are the niumbered channels the same everywhere, even if in different
areas their designated usage may vary?
Do you think they were unreasonable to make me take this set out?


Many of the channels on VHF are "duplex" channels where you transmit on
a totally different frequency than you receive. "Simplex" channels
transmit and receive on the same frequency, like Channel 16 on 156.800
Mhz.

In different parts of the world, the channel bandplans evolved
completely differently. Maritime Telephone Operators on duplex
channels, is a good example of why. National governments had no
coordination until the mess that was created was taken over by the
International Telecommunications Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland.

Standard Horizon must be really short on disk space in their pitiful
website, so the owner's manual of the Eclipse Plus and all the old
models is gone, but you'll find a U/I button on the front of it. U
means US channels and frequency sets. I is for Canada and International
channels on the rest of the planet. Why you got rejected for a license
for it is this button which allows you to go to the US channels they
don't want you to have access to, which is kind of stupid.

A word about this specific radio. I had one in my jetboat. It's a
piece of crap! Water leaked in around the poorly sealed "waterproof"
speaker in the front of it. When, not if, seawater leaks in around the
speaker it drops straight onto the main circuit board right under the
speaker. If you have it mounted pointing slightly upward so you can see
the front panel and point the speaker at you, the tilt on the main
circuit board will cause the seawater leaking in to run back across the
board, eating everything in its path on the way. This I could tolerate.

But, alas, the water finally comes up against the back wall of the radio
inside the "waterproof case" and cannot escape. The main RF power
amplifier of this radio, and most VHF radios, does NOT GET SWITCHED on
and off by the on/off switch! The amp is a class C FM amp and NORMALLY
draws no DC power when idle due to its Class C biasing.
HOWEVER.....HOWEVER, when sea water leakes into the case around the
crappy speaker, it POOLS UP around the BIAS PINS of the main RF power
amplifier IC BRICK at the back of the circuit board...DRIVING IT INTO
CONDUCTION! The IC merely gets hot, very hot but not hot enough to blow
itself. Mine drew 3A of steady current and the rear heat sink
disappated 36 watts of heat....UNTIL IT KILLED MY DAMNED BOAT BATTERY
DEADER THAN DEAD, sitting on the trailer under the cover.

Of course, after getting the trailer backed down the ramp in line with
the rest at the public boat ramp....THE BOAT WAS DEAD MEAT when I wanted
to play!

It took me a while to find the constant current load causing the battery
to drain out......

Just thought you'd like to know for when yours leaks.....

I put in an Icom M59 and it never faltered....

The Standard was given the "Deep Six Standard Funeral" and is free for
the diving in the middle of Charleston Harbor if the dredge missed it.

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Edgar" wrote in
news Many of the channels on VHF are "duplex" channels where you transmit on
a totally different frequency than you receive. "Simplex" channels
transmit and receive on the same frequency, like Channel 16 on 156.800
Mhz.

In different parts of the world, the channel bandplans evolved
completely differently. Maritime Telephone Operators on duplex
channels, is a good example of why. National governments had no
coordination until the mess that was created was taken over by the
International Telecommunications Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland.

Standard Horizon must be really short on disk space in their pitiful
website, so the owner's manual of the Eclipse Plus and all the old
models is gone, but you'll find a U/I button on the front of it. U
means US channels and frequency sets. I is for Canada and International
channels on the rest of the planet. Why you got rejected for a license
for it is this button which allows you to go to the US channels they
don't want you to have access to, which is kind of stupid.

A word about this specific radio. I had one in my jetboat. It's a
piece of crap! Water leaked in around the poorly sealed "waterproof"
speaker in the front of it. When, not if, seawater leaks in around the
speaker it drops straight onto the main circuit board right under the
speaker. If you have it mounted pointing slightly upward so you can see
the front panel and point the speaker at you, the tilt on the main
circuit board will cause the seawater leaking in to run back across the
board, eating everything in its path on the way. This I could tolerate.

But, alas, the water finally comes up against the back wall of the radio
inside the "waterproof case" and cannot escape. The main RF power
amplifier of this radio, and most VHF radios, does NOT GET SWITCHED on
and off by the on/off switch! The amp is a class C FM amp and NORMALLY
draws no DC power when idle due to its Class C biasing.
HOWEVER.....HOWEVER, when sea water leakes into the case around the
crappy speaker, it POOLS UP around the BIAS PINS of the main RF power
amplifier IC BRICK at the back of the circuit board...DRIVING IT INTO
CONDUCTION! The IC merely gets hot, very hot but not hot enough to blow
itself. Mine drew 3A of steady current and the rear heat sink
disappated 36 watts of heat....UNTIL IT KILLED MY DAMNED BOAT BATTERY
DEADER THAN DEAD, sitting on the trailer under the cover.

Of course, after getting the trailer backed down the ramp in line with
the rest at the public boat ramp....THE BOAT WAS DEAD MEAT when I wanted
to play!

It took me a while to find the constant current load causing the battery
to drain out......

Just thought you'd like to know for when yours leaks.....

I put in an Icom M59 and it never faltered....

The Standard was given the "Deep Six Standard Funeral" and is free for
the diving in the middle of Charleston Harbor if the dredge missed it.


Thanks, Larry. I will print that out and put it in the box where the set is
languishing just in case anyone should be tempted to fire it up again...

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:42:42 +0000, Larry wrote:

"Edgar" wrote in
news

Hi Larry,

I have a credit card sized 5 watt Alinco VHF/UHF that one can
programme the channels in by entering their frequencies into memory.

Does all US and International channels. Great buy. The internal
rechargeable battery seems to keep it full charge for many months if
not used.

cheers

Peter

Very
Hi Larry.
Maybe you can answer this one for me.
I imported my boat from USA and it was equipped with a nice little
Standard
Horizon Eclipse + VHF set.
Over here you need a licence to use VHF even on a pleasure boat and
they refused to licence this set for me, saying that it had 'American
channels' on it and could not be licenced in Europe.
I had to state on my licence application exactly what set I was using
and.had to replace it with a locally approved ICOM set.
I had powered up the Standard Horizon and channel 16 seemed to be the
same and all the other channels had familiar numbers. I found no
problem picking up ship-to ship traffic either.
Certainly there were some additional channels, which I gather were
weather
channels, which were unfamiliar to me...
Are the niumbered channels the same everywhere, even if in different
areas their designated usage may vary?
Do you think they were unreasonable to make me take this set out?


Many of the channels on VHF are "duplex" channels where you transmit on
a totally different frequency than you receive. "Simplex" channels
transmit and receive on the same frequency, like Channel 16 on 156.800
Mhz.

In different parts of the world, the channel bandplans evolved
completely differently. Maritime Telephone Operators on duplex
channels, is a good example of why. National governments had no
coordination until the mess that was created was taken over by the
International Telecommunications Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland.

Standard Horizon must be really short on disk space in their pitiful
website, so the owner's manual of the Eclipse Plus and all the old
models is gone, but you'll find a U/I button on the front of it. U
means US channels and frequency sets. I is for Canada and International
channels on the rest of the planet. Why you got rejected for a license
for it is this button which allows you to go to the US channels they
don't want you to have access to, which is kind of stupid.

A word about this specific radio. I had one in my jetboat. It's a
piece of crap! Water leaked in around the poorly sealed "waterproof"
speaker in the front of it. When, not if, seawater leaks in around the
speaker it drops straight onto the main circuit board right under the
speaker. If you have it mounted pointing slightly upward so you can see
the front panel and point the speaker at you, the tilt on the main
circuit board will cause the seawater leaking in to run back across the
board, eating everything in its path on the way. This I could tolerate.

But, alas, the water finally comes up against the back wall of the radio
inside the "waterproof case" and cannot escape. The main RF power
amplifier of this radio, and most VHF radios, does NOT GET SWITCHED on
and off by the on/off switch! The amp is a class C FM amp and NORMALLY
draws no DC power when idle due to its Class C biasing.
HOWEVER.....HOWEVER, when sea water leakes into the case around the
crappy speaker, it POOLS UP around the BIAS PINS of the main RF power
amplifier IC BRICK at the back of the circuit board...DRIVING IT INTO
CONDUCTION! The IC merely gets hot, very hot but not hot enough to blow
itself. Mine drew 3A of steady current and the rear heat sink
disappated 36 watts of heat....UNTIL IT KILLED MY DAMNED BOAT BATTERY
DEADER THAN DEAD, sitting on the trailer under the cover.

Of course, after getting the trailer backed down the ramp in line with
the rest at the public boat ramp....THE BOAT WAS DEAD MEAT when I wanted
to play!

It took me a while to find the constant current load causing the battery
to drain out......

Just thought you'd like to know for when yours leaks.....

I put in an Icom M59 and it never faltered....

The Standard was given the "Deep Six Standard Funeral" and is free for
the diving in the middle of Charleston Harbor if the dredge missed it.