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On Jul 17, 2:20 pm, Bruce in alaska wrote:
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Just about ALL commercial Vessels use 16 for Calling, no matter where
they are in the world. It is what Channel 16 was meant to be used for,
and why ALL commercial vessels are required to maintain a Watch on
Channel 16 while navigating, no matter the size of the vessel. ...

Yes but there are important exceptions. In many places in the US of A
commercial vessels maintain a watch on 13 & VTS and do not watch 16.
See 33 CFR 26 particularly 26.04 (d). This is unfortunate and can be
confusing but if your life depends on getting in touch with a tug here
in SF Bay you better call on 13.

-- Tom.


Yes... there have been a couple of incidents where people didn't do this and
had problems. Monitor 14, hail on 13.

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:01:13 -0700, "Capt. JG"
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On Jul 17, 2:20 pm, Bruce in alaska wrote:
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Just about ALL commercial Vessels use 16 for Calling, no matter where
they are in the world. It is what Channel 16 was meant to be used for,
and why ALL commercial vessels are required to maintain a Watch on
Channel 16 while navigating, no matter the size of the vessel. ...

Yes but there are important exceptions. In many places in the US of A
commercial vessels maintain a watch on 13 & VTS and do not watch 16.
See 33 CFR 26 particularly 26.04 (d). This is unfortunate and can be
confusing but if your life depends on getting in touch with a tug here
in SF Bay you better call on 13.

-- Tom.


Yes... there have been a couple of incidents where people didn't do this
and
had problems. Monitor 14, hail on 13.



I thought channel 13 was officially designated for bridge to bridge
traffic.
Bridges of ships, and the operators of those spans over the river. Why
would you
monitor 14 if the hailing will be on 13?


Ship to VTS comm. is on 14 on the bay. Commercial vessels hail "traffic" and
that's nice to monitor.


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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:20:45 GMT, Bruce in alaska said:

I'm talking real world here. The world of gummint regulations is
different.
Do you really use 16 to hail other boats up there?
[snip]

Weekend Warriors are NOT the largest users of Maritime Radios
on this planet, contrary to popular belief

Perhaps I should have phrased the question with more specificity. Didn't
think it was necessary given the name of the group. So let's try again:

Do pleasure boaters generally use 16 to hail other boats up there?


How do you tell? I think these days people use their cell phones. They could
use Nextel and pretend their walkie-talkies. "Got your ears on good buddy?"

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:20:45 GMT, in message

Bruce in alaska wrote:

Having been in the Radio Regulation Enforcement Biz for many
years, it never ceases to amaze me, what folks think, and say about, how
Maritime Mobile Radio is supposed to work, and why things are they way
they are.

In my neck of the woods (Eastern Lake Ontario) 16 remains the only
calling channel. (and Canadian marinas monitor 68)

I used to have a VHF station license for my boat, but dropped it when
the local requirement went away. Somebody recently suggested to me
that I would need a station license to legitimately operate my radio
(on a Canadian registered vessel) in US waters. I do have an
operator's license. Do I need more to be legit in the US?

Ryk

Ryk wrote in
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Do I need more to be legit in the US?

Let's make a deal. You get your bureaucrats to stop forcing us to buy an
expensive ship license just to go to Canada......and we'll get our
bureaucrats to stop forcing you to buy an expensive ship license just to go
to Florida.

Deal?

One of the benefits of the "New World Order" finally creating the North
American Union will be "local" will be all the way to the southern tip of
Mexico and our Ameros will all be the same money. No license will be
necessary for any NAU ship in this hemisphere....

Amazing. This whole long thread and the original question never got
answered, or, if it did, I missed it.

Let me rephrase and see if I can get an answer I was wondering about.

I have the licences because I plan to take my VHF to Canada and yack on it
there. I therefore have a call sign other than my boat registration
number.

Question: Should I use the radio call sign instead of the boat
registration?

I suspect, and what I will do unless someone tells me different, is use the
boat registration in US waters because this is what is expected and is most
in line with the licensing regime. Once in Canadian waters where the
applicabile regulations require the ship station and operators' licences,
thus the call sign, I will switch over to using the callsign.

Question: Does this make sense?

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Roger Long

On Jul 18, 11:30*am, "Roger Long" wrote:
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I suspect, and what I will do unless someone tells me different, is use the
boat registration in US waters because this is what is expected and is most
in line with the licensing regime. *Once in Canadian waters where the
applicabile regulations require the ship station and operators' licences,
thus the call sign, I will switch over to using the callsign.

Question: Does this make sense? ...

I have a license and I always use vessel name followed by call sign
both US and foreign. That's the way the pro's do it, too. I can't
imagine anyone having a problem with it or preferring the rego to the
call sign.

-- Tom.

That probably does make more sense and avoids switching procedures at a time
when there is apt to be a lot else on your mind. Also, not giving out the
registration which anyone can read on the dock provides a little anonymity.

I can't recall ever hearing any yacht giving either, come to think of it.

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Roger Long

"Larry" wrote in message
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Ryk wrote in
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Do I need more to be legit in the US?

Let's make a deal. You get your bureaucrats to stop forcing us to buy an
expensive ship license just to go to Canada......and we'll get our
bureaucrats to stop forcing you to buy an expensive ship license just to
go
to Florida.

Deal?

One of the benefits of the "New World Order" finally creating the North
American Union will be "local" will be all the way to the southern tip of
Mexico and our Ameros will all be the same money. No license will be
necessary for any NAU ship in this hemisphere....


Hi Larry.
Maybe you can answer this one for me.
I imported my boat from USA and it was equipped with a nice little Standard
Horizon Eclipse + VHF set.
Over here you need a licence to use VHF even on a pleasure boat and they
refused to licence this set for me, saying that it had 'American channels'
on it and could not be licenced in Europe.
I had to state on my licence application exactly what set I was using
and.had to replace it with a locally approved ICOM set.
I had powered up the Standard Horizon and channel 16 seemed to be the same
and all the other channels had familiar numbers. I found no problem picking
up ship-to ship traffic either.
Certainly there were some additional channels, which I gather were weather
channels, which were unfamiliar to me...
Are the niumbered channels the same everywhere, even if in different areas
their designated usage may vary?
Do you think they were unreasonable to make me take this set out?
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Ryk wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:20:45 GMT, in message

Bruce in alaska wrote:

Having been in the Radio Regulation Enforcement Biz for many
years, it never ceases to amaze me, what folks think, and say about, how
Maritime Mobile Radio is supposed to work, and why things are they way
they are.

In my neck of the woods (Eastern Lake Ontario) 16 remains the only
calling channel. (and Canadian marinas monitor 68)

I used to have a VHF station license for my boat, but dropped it when
the local requirement went away. Somebody recently suggested to me
that I would need a station license to legitimately operate my radio
(on a Canadian registered vessel) in US waters. I do have an
operator's license. Do I need more to be legit in the US?

Ryk

Yes, to legally operate your VHF Radio in US Waters you are REQUIRED
by International Convention (ITU International Telecommunication Union)
to have a current Radio Station License issued by the Country of your
FLAG.

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Bruce in alaska
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