On Jul 17, 2:20*pm, Bruce in alaska wrote:
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Just about ALL commercial Vessels use 16 for Calling, no matter where
they are in the world. It is what Channel 16 was meant to be used for,
and why ALL commercial vessels are required to maintain a Watch on
Channel 16 while navigating, no matter the size of the vessel. ...

Yes but there are important exceptions. In many places in the US of A
commercial vessels maintain a watch on 13 & VTS and do not watch 16.
See 33 CFR 26 particularly 26.04 (d). This is unfortunate and can be
confusing but if your life depends on getting in touch with a tug here
in SF Bay you better call on 13.

-- Tom.

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On Jul 17, 2:20 pm, Bruce in alaska wrote:
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Just about ALL commercial Vessels use 16 for Calling, no matter where
they are in the world. It is what Channel 16 was meant to be used for,
and why ALL commercial vessels are required to maintain a Watch on
Channel 16 while navigating, no matter the size of the vessel. ...

Yes but there are important exceptions. In many places in the US of A
commercial vessels maintain a watch on 13 & VTS and do not watch 16.
See 33 CFR 26 particularly 26.04 (d). This is unfortunate and can be
confusing but if your life depends on getting in touch with a tug here
in SF Bay you better call on 13.

-- Tom.


Yes... there have been a couple of incidents where people didn't do this and
had problems. Monitor 14, hail on 13.

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On Jul 17, 2:20*pm, Bruce in alaska wrote:
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Just about ALL commercial Vessels use 16 for Calling, no matter where
they are in the world. It is what Channel 16 was meant to be used for,
and why ALL commercial vessels are required to maintain a Watch on
Channel 16 while navigating, no matter the size of the vessel. ...

Yes but there are important exceptions. In many places in the US of A
commercial vessels maintain a watch on 13 & VTS and do not watch 16.
See 33 CFR 26 particularly 26.04 (d). This is unfortunate and can be
confusing but if your life depends on getting in touch with a tug here
in SF Bay you better call on 13.

-- Tom.

Well actually, if a vessel is REQUIRED to be under VTS Control, then they
are exempt from maintaining a Watch on Ch 16 while under VTS Control,
but the VTS System Operators are then responsible to forward any
Distress or Safety Traffic to ALL vessels under their control. Any
Navigation Traffic would be passed on the Bridge to Bridge Channel 13.
Once you understand that ALL Vessels over 20 Meters in length, or Towing,
are Required to comply with the Bridge to Bridge Radiotelephone Act,
which requires a continuous Watch on Vhf Ch. 13 while the vessel is
Navigating. Then if you are near a VTS System, as a Voluntary Equipped
Vessel would use Ch 13 to pass any Navigation Traffic to a VTS controlled
Vessel. Traffic going from a VTS controlled vessel to a voluntary
Equipped Vessel would use the VTS Channel Radio to temporarily move to
Ch 16 for calling, and move to Ch 13 for working the voluntary Equipped
Vessel. Most Bridge to Bridge REQUIRED Vessels have a Third VHF Fitted
just to relieve the above situation, and as a Hot Standby Spare, should
one of the other REQUIRED Radios Fail.

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Bruce in alaska
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:20:45 GMT, in message

Bruce in alaska wrote:

Having been in the Radio Regulation Enforcement Biz for many
years, it never ceases to amaze me, what folks think, and say about, how
Maritime Mobile Radio is supposed to work, and why things are they way
they are.

In my neck of the woods (Eastern Lake Ontario) 16 remains the only
calling channel. (and Canadian marinas monitor 68)

I used to have a VHF station license for my boat, but dropped it when
the local requirement went away. Somebody recently suggested to me
that I would need a station license to legitimately operate my radio
(on a Canadian registered vessel) in US waters. I do have an
operator's license. Do I need more to be legit in the US?

Ryk

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Do I need more to be legit in the US?

Let's make a deal. You get your bureaucrats to stop forcing us to buy an
expensive ship license just to go to Canada......and we'll get our
bureaucrats to stop forcing you to buy an expensive ship license just to go
to Florida.

Deal?

One of the benefits of the "New World Order" finally creating the North
American Union will be "local" will be all the way to the southern tip of
Mexico and our Ameros will all be the same money. No license will be
necessary for any NAU ship in this hemisphere....

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Ryk wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:20:45 GMT, in message

Bruce in alaska wrote:

Having been in the Radio Regulation Enforcement Biz for many
years, it never ceases to amaze me, what folks think, and say about, how
Maritime Mobile Radio is supposed to work, and why things are they way
they are.

In my neck of the woods (Eastern Lake Ontario) 16 remains the only
calling channel. (and Canadian marinas monitor 68)

I used to have a VHF station license for my boat, but dropped it when
the local requirement went away. Somebody recently suggested to me
that I would need a station license to legitimately operate my radio
(on a Canadian registered vessel) in US waters. I do have an
operator's license. Do I need more to be legit in the US?

Ryk

Yes, to legally operate your VHF Radio in US Waters you are REQUIRED
by International Convention (ITU International Telecommunication Union)
to have a current Radio Station License issued by the Country of your
FLAG.

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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:39:29 -0400, Ryk wrote:

In my neck of the woods (Eastern Lake Ontario) 16 remains the only
calling channel.

???!? 16 a calling channel in Canada for pleasure boaters? I don't think
so Ryk.

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:20:45 GMT, Bruce in alaska said:

I'm talking real world here. The world of gummint regulations is
different.
Do you really use 16 to hail other boats up there?
[snip]

Weekend Warriors are NOT the largest users of Maritime Radios
on this planet, contrary to popular belief

Perhaps I should have phrased the question with more specificity. Didn't
think it was necessary given the name of the group. So let's try again:

Do pleasure boaters generally use 16 to hail other boats up there?


How do you tell? I think these days people use their cell phones. They could
use Nextel and pretend their walkie-talkies. "Got your ears on good buddy?"

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www.sailnow.com

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"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:20:45 GMT, Bruce in alaska said:

I'm talking real world here. The world of gummint regulations is
different.
Do you really use 16 to hail other boats up there?
[snip]

Weekend Warriors are NOT the largest users of Maritime Radios
on this planet, contrary to popular belief

Perhaps I should have phrased the question with more specificity. Didn't
think it was necessary given the name of the group. So let's try again:

Do pleasure boaters generally use 16 to hail other boats up there?


How do you tell? I think these days people use their cell phones. They could
use Nextel and pretend their walkie-talkies. "Got your ears on good buddy?"

You listen to the Traffic on Channel 16, Channel 9, and having done so
as a Regulator in the past, knowing what to listen for.

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Bruce in alaska
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Dave wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:20:45 GMT, Bruce in alaska said:

I'm talking real world here. The world of gummint regulations is different.
Do you really use 16 to hail other boats up there?
[snip]

Weekend Warriors are NOT the largest users of Maritime Radios
on this planet, contrary to popular belief

Perhaps I should have phrased the question with more specificity. Didn't
think it was necessary given the name of the group. So let's try again:

Do pleasure boaters generally use 16 to hail other boats up there?

Since "Pleasure boaters" are a small minority of vessels navigating
the alaskan waters, YES, they usually do their calling on VHF Ch 16,
UNLESS it is to call a Traveling Mate vessel on a prearranged Channel,
like VHF Ch 9. All the local Harbor Masters monitor Ch 16, as well
as their working Channel, which in my area is Ch 9. I just spent the
last three days listening to the USCG Cutter Liberty, doing boardings
of "Pleasure boats" out in Icy Straights, and they did ALL their calling
on Ch 16, and working on Ch 22A. Only heard one guy, who couldn't figure
out how to switch to 22A, and they did work him on Ch 9, after convincing
him that Ch 16 was not the place to communicate traffic. He also failed
the Boarding Inspection, and is now tied up to My Dock, as the closest
Port of Call, waiting for a package from town, to fullfill his lack of
Emergency Flares and a Whistle. Amazing for a $250K "Pleasure boat"....
Had a nice chat with the CPO, at the Port Captian's Office for
Southeastern Alaska, about what it would take to send this fellow on his
way. As soon as Possible. Don't want him pumping his bilge at my dock,
either by accident or on purpose.

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