On 2008-07-14 13:05:41 -0400, "claus" said:

Are "Call Signs" ever used in VHF communications to/from/between boats? I
know they are part of the FCC radio license - but is they just a "leftover"
from land based radio stations?

Rarely used around here other than the various law enforcement entities
and CG Auxiliary, and even then often dropped or shortened after
initial contact.

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On 2008-07-14 22:32:50 -0400, Larry said:

Herodotus wrote in
:

When I ask for a rubber at a shop I don't
expect to be handed a packet of condoms when I need an "eraser".

cheers
Peter


I said, "I'm ****ed!", in an English pub and they all offered to drive me
home....(c;

Two nations separated by a common language.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
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In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:31:48 GMT, Bruce in alaska said:

the above USCG Transmission does NOT follow the International
Telecommunication Union (ITU) Regulations, which the USA is Signatory
to. What that Coastie, was supposed to say is "Channel 16 is for Calling
and Distress Communications only, Please move your traffic to a working
Frequency, Coast Guard Sector Long Island, OUT!"

If you are correct about the regulations, it sounds to me like the
regulations are out of date, and the Coastie was right. Channel 16 used to
be the calling channel as well as the distress communications channel. But
now the calling channel is Ch 9, with 16 reserved for distress
communications.

Nope, you got it WRONG, Channel 16, IS for Calling and Distress
Communications ONLY, and that is an ITU Regulation, WORLDWIDE.
The USA has seen fit to move non-commercial Calling, ON A SECONDARY
BASIS, to Channel 9, basically to get the Weekend Warriors off Channel
16, with their incessant "Hey Joe, are you there", crap. You will NOT
find any of the Commercial Users, Calling on Channel 9, as this is a
LIMITED, SECONDARY BASIS, Usage for non-commercial vessels. The Weekend
Warriors, will never be able to learn proper Marine VHF Operating Rules
or Language, mostly because they NEVER have read 47CFR80, which are
the Rules for the Maritime Mobile Radio Service, in the US, which they
use. They just figure if they pay their money for their spiffy new
"Boat", get all the latest, spiffy new Radio's and Electronics, and
stick all the Manuals in a drawer, that they should be able to call
"Joe" whenever, wherever, and on any channel they choose. Even if it is
a Commercial ONLY VHF Channel, or a Ship to Shore ONLY VHF Channel.
Fortunately, fitting an MF/HF Radio that carries into the rest of the
WORLD, does require a Station License, AND an Operators License, which
then REQUIRES the Skipper to have at least Read the Rules, one would
Hope. Don't get "Me" wrong here, the Commercial Guys have their own
set of BS, as well. Like, having the Cruise Ships using Channel 68,
to communicate with their Tenders and Lighters. However, the USCG
doesn't guard Channel 68, to nothing ever happens to these YAHOO's
when they co-opt CH 68, instead of using Channel 67, or Channel 8, like
their supposed to. These two are specifically set aside for Intership
Commercial Communications ONLY. Oh well, Now that I am ReTired, it isn't
my problem anymore, but it still gets my Blood Pressure Up.

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On 2008-07-15 06:07:13 -0400, said:

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:41:43 +0000, Larry wrote:

wrote in :

I don't know where they went after that.

Probably 13....(c;

An excellent guess. I know they didn't, though because that's one of
the channels I always scan.

Used for drawbridges and tug traffic around here, so it's on my scan.

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:06:20 +1000, Herodotus
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:07:12 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:



They also jabber on channel 16 a lot. Same same Malaysia. Came through
Malacca Harbour one night and have never heard so much talk. Even some
young lady that appeared to be advertising herself, albeit in vague
terms, Made me wonder what one could have done if there was an
emergency.

P.S. my spelling checker says "harbour" is a misspelled word :-)


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

Actually Bruce, I wonder whether the proliferation of the web and
various software packages will tend to nullify the differences between
the various branches of English in the not so distant future. I have
noticed that a lot of younger IT professionals spell "programme" as
the American "program" and nobody (including me) cares.

After all, the differences in American - British spelling probably
originate from the time US English was isolated from your colonial
masters. Reading Captain Cook's English and his spelling is not the
same as it would have been if he wrote today.

After all, the meaning is what is important and there are cultural
differences between the two. When I ask for a rubber at a shop I don't
expect to be handed a packet of condoms when I need an "eraser".

cheers
Peter


And I can hear the Parts Guy now when you trip into the car parts
place and want a "bonnet" for your auto....


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:32:50 +0000, Larry wrote:

Herodotus wrote in
:

When I ask for a rubber at a shop I don't
expect to be handed a packet of condoms when I need an "eraser".

cheers
Peter


I said, "I'm ****ed!", in an English pub and they all offered to drive me
home....(c;


Or you tell a gal, "I'll knock you up in the morning" and she says,
"Ta".


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

Bruce in Bangkok wrote in
:

And I can hear the Parts Guy now when you trip into the car parts
place and want a "bonnet" for your auto....



or a boot?

Larry wrote in news:Xns9ADDDC73BC9CBnoonehomecom@
208.49.80.253:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote in
:

And I can hear the Parts Guy now when you trip into the car parts
place and want a "bonnet" for your auto....



or a boot?



Six Canadians just looked at each other and said, "A boot what?"

about = "aboot"

In article ,
Dave wrote:

I'm talking real world here. The world of gummint regulations is different.
Do you really use 16 to hail other boats up there?

Just about ALL commercial Vessels use 16 for Calling, no matter where
they are in the world. It is what Channel 16 was meant to be used for,
and why ALL commercial vessels are required to maintain a Watch on
Channel 16 while navigating, no matter the size of the vessel. Channel 16
provides a Common Place for ALL Maritime VHF Radios to be, when trying
to contact another Station, for any reason, not just for Distress
reasons. Having been in the Radio Regulation Enforcement Biz for many
years, it never ceases to amaze me, what folks think, and say about, how
Maritime Mobile Radio is supposed to work, and why things are they way
they are. Weekend Warriors are NOT the largest users of Maritime Radios
on this planet, contrary to popular belief, and the Maritime Mobile Radio
Service wasn't put in place just for their specific pleasure, or usage.

--
Bruce in alaska
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On Jul 17, 2:20*pm, Bruce in alaska wrote:
...
Just about ALL commercial Vessels use 16 for Calling, no matter where
they are in the world. It is what Channel 16 was meant to be used for,
and why ALL commercial vessels are required to maintain a Watch on
Channel 16 while navigating, no matter the size of the vessel. ...

Yes but there are important exceptions. In many places in the US of A
commercial vessels maintain a watch on 13 & VTS and do not watch 16.
See 33 CFR 26 particularly 26.04 (d). This is unfortunate and can be
confusing but if your life depends on getting in touch with a tug here
in SF Bay you better call on 13.

-- Tom.