WaIIy writes:

Scott Vernon wrote:

Depending on the state (which for some suspicious reason
he is hiding)

Why must you assume some nefarious or suspicious reason for
my desire to remain anonymous? Do you get spam? I do not.

When you begin to attack people, because you do not like
what they have to say, you prove my point for wishing to
remain secure.

a permit can be as little as $10. But that is each trip.
Some states require special insurance.

Still more reasons why this vessel is not suitable to me.

This mimara guy is a known troll.

How do you arrive at this? I am not a troll. I am merely
asking questions because I wish to learn. I cannot be
responsible if you do not like what I ask, or how I ask it.

Remember a while back when he was pretending to be some
foreign guy?

You show me one post where I ever claimed to be from anywhere.
You show me one post I made, that states where I am from.
What happened was, someone looked up my screen name, which I
took from a book I read 20 years ago because I liked how it
sounds, and decided that I was trying to impersonate someone.

I write how I write, and I do not see you jumping all over people
who spell badly, or who use poor grammar.

I have never claimed to be anyone other than me. It is people
like YOU who have bad attitudes and are hateful to people who
only want to learn new things.

He's not a bad troll, but a troll, nonetheless.

Why must everyone assume that I am a troll, when all I have
done is to ask questions, and then ask for explanation of
answers that I did not understand? I have always asked on
topic questions, I have never advertised for any product, and
I have never made threads disruptive by name-calling. Show me
how that is being a troll.

Do all of you people remember what it was like to be new to
something? You were not born with full knowledge, you had to
start somewhere.

This is what I mean by people like you trying to keep new people
out of this type of activity. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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WaIIy writes:

Scott Vernon wrote:

Depending on the state (which for some suspicious reason
he is hiding)

Why must you assume some nefarious or suspicious reason for
my desire to remain anonymous? Do you get spam? I do not.

When you begin to attack people, because you do not like
what they have to say, you prove my point for wishing to
remain secure.

a permit can be as little as $10. But that is each trip.
Some states require special insurance.

Still more reasons why this vessel is not suitable to me.

This mimara guy is a known troll.

How do you arrive at this? I am not a troll. I am merely
asking questions because I wish to learn. I cannot be
responsible if you do not like what I ask, or how I ask it.

Remember a while back when he was pretending to be some
foreign guy?

You show me one post where I ever claimed to be from anywhere.
You show me one post I made, that states where I am from.
What happened was, someone looked up my screen name, which I
took from a book I read 20 years ago because I liked how it
sounds, and decided that I was trying to impersonate someone.

I write how I write, and I do not see you jumping all over people
who spell badly, or who use poor grammar.

I have never claimed to be anyone other than me. It is people
like YOU who have bad attitudes and are hateful to people who
only want to learn new things.

He's not a bad troll, but a troll, nonetheless.

Why must everyone assume that I am a troll, when all I have
done is to ask questions, and then ask for explanation of
answers that I did not understand? I have always asked on
topic questions, I have never advertised for any product, and
I have never made threads disruptive by name-calling. Show me
how that is being a troll.

Do all of you people remember what it was like to be new to
something? You were not born with full knowledge, you had to
start somewhere.

This is what I mean by people like you trying to keep new people
out of this type of activity. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Topic-Mimara
Unique in the World!
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Ante Topic Mimara ] wrote in message

I plan on buying a modest mini-cruising sailboat which I'll probably use as
a camper on occasion.
My theory is to buy the minimal needed.
This would keep the weight down and enable me to use my current tow vehicle.
My total boat/trailer weight will be about 1800 lbs.
One important consideration I have to make is buying a new galvanized
trailer with surge type disc brakes. This will add to the expense but if it
prevents one bang up...I'm ahead.

Ante Topic Mimara ] wrote in message

I plan on buying a modest mini-cruising sailboat which I'll probably use as
a camper on occasion.
My theory is to buy the minimal needed.
This would keep the weight down and enable me to use my current tow vehicle.
My total boat/trailer weight will be about 1800 lbs.
One important consideration I have to make is buying a new galvanized
trailer with surge type disc brakes. This will add to the expense but if it
prevents one bang up...I'm ahead.

OK, I'll bite...

Ante Topic Mimara wrote:
I do not like to give this up, as it has been a life long dream

I was looking for a motor cruiser, but since I cannot
use it the way I wish to, I will have to give up, because everyone
here (except for a few nice people, thank you) seems to want to
keep everyone new like me out of their precious little hobby.

Boating, cruising, whatever, can be complex, dangerous, difficult,
expensive.... Or it can be simple, safe, easy and cheap. Your questions
are reasonable, but indicate to me that your experience in boats is minimal.

If you buy a boat that meets ALL of your criteria, you are very likely to
have a negative experience. You will spend tens of thousands of dollars
(yes, I know the "price" is far less...) you will experience difficulty and
frustration, both on land and on the water, and you will be at some physical
risk, as you learn.

May I suggest you buy (or borrow/rent) a small skiff or outboard for your
first season; if you want to travel, a hotel will be cheap compared to a
boat with even minimal accommodations (and you'll have a hot shower!).
With minimal outlay of cash, you can learn the basics of this "precious
little hobby". If you like messing around on the water, next year get a
different, larger, or 'better' boat. And the money spent will not go to
waste; with a used boat and motor, further depreciation will be negligible
(or you can hold onto the skiff forever - if you end up with a 28 footer,
you will DEFINITELY need a little boat, too.)

Personally, I prefer little boats, and rather than put a couple hundred
grand into a decent "Motor Cruiser", bought a nice home on the water - with
a dock for my outboards, sailboats, kayaks, and other toys.

Good luck!
Sal's Dad (referring, of course, to McCloskey's "One Morning in Maine" and
other books

OK, I'll bite...

Ante Topic Mimara wrote:
I do not like to give this up, as it has been a life long dream

I was looking for a motor cruiser, but since I cannot
use it the way I wish to, I will have to give up, because everyone
here (except for a few nice people, thank you) seems to want to
keep everyone new like me out of their precious little hobby.

Boating, cruising, whatever, can be complex, dangerous, difficult,
expensive.... Or it can be simple, safe, easy and cheap. Your questions
are reasonable, but indicate to me that your experience in boats is minimal.

If you buy a boat that meets ALL of your criteria, you are very likely to
have a negative experience. You will spend tens of thousands of dollars
(yes, I know the "price" is far less...) you will experience difficulty and
frustration, both on land and on the water, and you will be at some physical
risk, as you learn.

May I suggest you buy (or borrow/rent) a small skiff or outboard for your
first season; if you want to travel, a hotel will be cheap compared to a
boat with even minimal accommodations (and you'll have a hot shower!).
With minimal outlay of cash, you can learn the basics of this "precious
little hobby". If you like messing around on the water, next year get a
different, larger, or 'better' boat. And the money spent will not go to
waste; with a used boat and motor, further depreciation will be negligible
(or you can hold onto the skiff forever - if you end up with a 28 footer,
you will DEFINITELY need a little boat, too.)

Personally, I prefer little boats, and rather than put a couple hundred
grand into a decent "Motor Cruiser", bought a nice home on the water - with
a dock for my outboards, sailboats, kayaks, and other toys.

Good luck!
Sal's Dad (referring, of course, to McCloskey's "One Morning in Maine" and
other books

Don White writes:


Ante Topic Mimara ]
wrote in message

I plan on buying a modest mini-cruising sailboat which I'll
probably use as a camper on occasion.
My theory is to buy the minimal needed.
This would keep the weight down and enable me to use my
current tow vehicle. My total boat/trailer weight will be
about 1800 lbs. One important consideration I have to make
is buying a new galvanized trailer with surge type disc
brakes. This will add to the expense but if it prevents
one bang up...I'm ahead.

I have never written this. I have never written anything like this.

Ever.

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Unique in the World!
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Don White writes:


Ante Topic Mimara ]
wrote in message

I plan on buying a modest mini-cruising sailboat which I'll
probably use as a camper on occasion.
My theory is to buy the minimal needed.
This would keep the weight down and enable me to use my
current tow vehicle. My total boat/trailer weight will be
about 1800 lbs. One important consideration I have to make
is buying a new galvanized trailer with surge type disc
brakes. This will add to the expense but if it prevents
one bang up...I'm ahead.

I have never written this. I have never written anything like this.

Ever.

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Topic-Mimara
Unique in the World!
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This message was posted via two or more anonymous remailing services.

Ante Topic Mimara ] wrote in message
I have never written this. I have never written anything like this.

Ever.

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ooops .... I meant to include some of your post.

Ante Topic Mimara ] wrote in message
I have never written this. I have never written anything like this.

Ever.

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ooops .... I meant to include some of your post.