writes:
Ante Topic Mimara wrote:

Yes, I can see that adding a trailer will add some weight.
I was just hoping to get some idea of how much, in addition
to determining the weight of the boat as well.


Go to http://www.loadrite.com
then click on BOAT TRAILERS
then click on ROLLER TRAILERS
then click on "Click here to see our Roller Trailers"
then scroll down to trailers for a 28' boat

You will need a Tandem Axle maybe a Tri-Axle Trailer.
It will weigh at least 2,000 lbs.

Does that help?

Yes and no. It helps in that I have now decided that I cannot
acquire this or any other vessel which suits what I wish to do.
It helps that I now have learned that a boat big enough for how
I wish to use it is being demonstrated to be a boat I cannot use.

It does not help, in that I now apparently will not be able to
become a boater. This is most disappointing to me, as I now do
not know what to do about this. I would like to get a boat that
I can use on the river and lakes in the area, and one that I can
stay on for up to a week at a time. It seems now as if these two
things are totally incompatible to each other.

Perhaps I should now start looking at a small motor home...

I do not like to give this up, as it has been a life long dream
for me to have a small boat like this, but I do not see how I can
do with it what I wish to do.

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writes:
Ante Topic Mimara wrote:

Yes, I can see that adding a trailer will add some weight.
I was just hoping to get some idea of how much, in addition
to determining the weight of the boat as well.


Go to http://www.loadrite.com
then click on BOAT TRAILERS
then click on ROLLER TRAILERS
then click on "Click here to see our Roller Trailers"
then scroll down to trailers for a 28' boat

You will need a Tandem Axle maybe a Tri-Axle Trailer.
It will weigh at least 2,000 lbs.

Does that help?

Yes and no. It helps in that I have now decided that I cannot
acquire this or any other vessel which suits what I wish to do.
It helps that I now have learned that a boat big enough for how
I wish to use it is being demonstrated to be a boat I cannot use.

It does not help, in that I now apparently will not be able to
become a boater. This is most disappointing to me, as I now do
not know what to do about this. I would like to get a boat that
I can use on the river and lakes in the area, and one that I can
stay on for up to a week at a time. It seems now as if these two
things are totally incompatible to each other.

Perhaps I should now start looking at a small motor home...

I do not like to give this up, as it has been a life long dream
for me to have a small boat like this, but I do not see how I can
do with it what I wish to do.

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Topic-Mimara
Unique in the World!
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Ante Topic Mimara wrote:

It does not help, in that I now apparently will not be able to
become a boater. This is most disappointing to me, as I now do
not know what to do about this. I would like to get a boat that
I can use on the river and lakes in the area, and one that I can
stay on for up to a week at a time. It seems now as if these two
things are totally incompatible to each other.

Perhaps I should now start looking at a small motor home...

I do not like to give this up, as it has been a life long dream
for me to have a small boat like this, but I do not see how I can
do with it what I wish to do.


There are smaller boats that would probably meet your needs.

You might find it interesting/educational to attend a large boat
show or two. You'll be able to inspect many different kinds of
trailer-able boats and get a much better idea of the features and
specs you will need. You'll be able to get information about
proper tow vehicles and various state requirements. It sounds
like new boats are out of your price range, but you can take the
information you gain out into the used boat market and shop with
more confidence.

Cindy


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the return email is a spam trap
send legit emails to cindy_at_ballreich_dot_net

Cindy Ballreich writes:

Ante Topic Mimara wrote:

I do not like to give this up, as it has been a life long
dream for me to have a small boat like this, but I do not
see how I can do with it what I wish to do.


There are smaller boats that would probably meet your needs.

I have looked at several web sites that sell boats, and I have
not seen anything much under 27 or 28 feet that looks like what
I was wanting. Almost all of these boats that are smaller than
this, are all open, and do not have anything inside to sleep
on, or eat, or have heads, or anything. If I could find something
like this, I would be happy, but I have not.


You might find it interesting/educational to attend a large
boat show or two. You'll be able to inspect many different
kinds of trailer-able boats and get a much better idea of the
features and specs you will need. You'll be able to get
information about proper tow vehicles and various state
requirements. It sounds like new boats are out of your price
range, but you can take the information you gain out into the
used boat market and shop with more confidence.

Thank you for this most excellent advice. I am still thinking
that I am going to give this dream up, as I do not think I will
ever find what it is that I looking for, and have had too many
people I have never seen give good advice, decide to call me a
troll. If they are what most boater-people are like, they can
have it.

I would hope that you are what most boater-people are like, since
you have given me good information, but I have seen too many people
be suspicious and hateful.

There are some big boat shows in this part of the country over the
summer, I think. I will do a search on the internet to find out some
more details, and then go and see what they have there.

Thank you again for your good helpful advice. I will take it.

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WaIIy writes:

Scott Vernon wrote:

Depending on the state (which for some suspicious reason
he is hiding)

Why must you assume some nefarious or suspicious reason for
my desire to remain anonymous? Do you get spam? I do not.

When you begin to attack people, because you do not like
what they have to say, you prove my point for wishing to
remain secure.

a permit can be as little as $10. But that is each trip.
Some states require special insurance.

Still more reasons why this vessel is not suitable to me.

This mimara guy is a known troll.

How do you arrive at this? I am not a troll. I am merely
asking questions because I wish to learn. I cannot be
responsible if you do not like what I ask, or how I ask it.

Remember a while back when he was pretending to be some
foreign guy?

You show me one post where I ever claimed to be from anywhere.
You show me one post I made, that states where I am from.
What happened was, someone looked up my screen name, which I
took from a book I read 20 years ago because I liked how it
sounds, and decided that I was trying to impersonate someone.

I write how I write, and I do not see you jumping all over people
who spell badly, or who use poor grammar.

I have never claimed to be anyone other than me. It is people
like YOU who have bad attitudes and are hateful to people who
only want to learn new things.

He's not a bad troll, but a troll, nonetheless.

Why must everyone assume that I am a troll, when all I have
done is to ask questions, and then ask for explanation of
answers that I did not understand? I have always asked on
topic questions, I have never advertised for any product, and
I have never made threads disruptive by name-calling. Show me
how that is being a troll.

Do all of you people remember what it was like to be new to
something? You were not born with full knowledge, you had to
start somewhere.

This is what I mean by people like you trying to keep new people
out of this type of activity. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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WaIIy writes:

Scott Vernon wrote:

Depending on the state (which for some suspicious reason
he is hiding)

Why must you assume some nefarious or suspicious reason for
my desire to remain anonymous? Do you get spam? I do not.

When you begin to attack people, because you do not like
what they have to say, you prove my point for wishing to
remain secure.

a permit can be as little as $10. But that is each trip.
Some states require special insurance.

Still more reasons why this vessel is not suitable to me.

This mimara guy is a known troll.

How do you arrive at this? I am not a troll. I am merely
asking questions because I wish to learn. I cannot be
responsible if you do not like what I ask, or how I ask it.

Remember a while back when he was pretending to be some
foreign guy?

You show me one post where I ever claimed to be from anywhere.
You show me one post I made, that states where I am from.
What happened was, someone looked up my screen name, which I
took from a book I read 20 years ago because I liked how it
sounds, and decided that I was trying to impersonate someone.

I write how I write, and I do not see you jumping all over people
who spell badly, or who use poor grammar.

I have never claimed to be anyone other than me. It is people
like YOU who have bad attitudes and are hateful to people who
only want to learn new things.

He's not a bad troll, but a troll, nonetheless.

Why must everyone assume that I am a troll, when all I have
done is to ask questions, and then ask for explanation of
answers that I did not understand? I have always asked on
topic questions, I have never advertised for any product, and
I have never made threads disruptive by name-calling. Show me
how that is being a troll.

Do all of you people remember what it was like to be new to
something? You were not born with full knowledge, you had to
start somewhere.

This is what I mean by people like you trying to keep new people
out of this type of activity. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Comments below:
"Ante Topic Mimara" ] wrote in message
news:KMYSIKXQ38080.3344444444@anonymous...
Cindy Ballreich writes:

Ante Topic Mimara wrote:

I do not like to give this up, as it has been a life long
dream for me to have a small boat like this, but I do not
see how I can do with it what I wish to do.


There are smaller boats that would probably meet your needs.

I have looked at several web sites that sell boats, and I have
not seen anything much under 27 or 28 feet that looks like what
I was wanting. Almost all of these boats that are smaller than
this, are all open, and do not have anything inside to sleep
on, or eat, or have heads, or anything. If I could find something
like this, I would be happy, but I have not.

I have friends who used to own a 22 or 23' power boat with what was
called a Cuddy Cabin. I believe they are quite common. This cabin was down
below, forward of the cockpit, taking up perhaps the full forward half of
the boat. It had a Vee shaped birth that slept two comfortably, a sink, and
a dedicated space for a Port-a-potty (toilet). You could not stand in this
cabin but there was sufficient headroom for those sitting on the beds or
toilet. It had a door that closed it off from the cockpit for privacy and
an over head opening hatch plus windows (ports) on either side. Their
cockpit was open but they had a full canopy/dodger with side curtains that
ran from the windshield to the stern with standing headroom inside. On nice
evenings they would sleep in the cockpit on the main seats which folded down
into beds. They did their cooking in the main cockpit on a bar-b-que. This
all fit on a single axle trailer and they pulled with a Ford F150 (commonly
called a 1/2 ton) pickup truck They kept the boat on its trailer in their
driveway during the week and towed it where ever they wanted to go on
evenings or weekends. The boat had an inboard/outboard drive arrangement
with a V-6 engine.
Would something like this be enough to get you started into boating? It
doesn't meet all you expressed needs but is a good start perhaps. You could
move up to a bigger boat as your experience and preferences develop.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca

Comments below:
"Ante Topic Mimara" ] wrote in message
news:KMYSIKXQ38080.3344444444@anonymous...
Cindy Ballreich writes:

Ante Topic Mimara wrote:

I do not like to give this up, as it has been a life long
dream for me to have a small boat like this, but I do not
see how I can do with it what I wish to do.


There are smaller boats that would probably meet your needs.

I have looked at several web sites that sell boats, and I have
not seen anything much under 27 or 28 feet that looks like what
I was wanting. Almost all of these boats that are smaller than
this, are all open, and do not have anything inside to sleep
on, or eat, or have heads, or anything. If I could find something
like this, I would be happy, but I have not.

I have friends who used to own a 22 or 23' power boat with what was
called a Cuddy Cabin. I believe they are quite common. This cabin was down
below, forward of the cockpit, taking up perhaps the full forward half of
the boat. It had a Vee shaped birth that slept two comfortably, a sink, and
a dedicated space for a Port-a-potty (toilet). You could not stand in this
cabin but there was sufficient headroom for those sitting on the beds or
toilet. It had a door that closed it off from the cockpit for privacy and
an over head opening hatch plus windows (ports) on either side. Their
cockpit was open but they had a full canopy/dodger with side curtains that
ran from the windshield to the stern with standing headroom inside. On nice
evenings they would sleep in the cockpit on the main seats which folded down
into beds. They did their cooking in the main cockpit on a bar-b-que. This
all fit on a single axle trailer and they pulled with a Ford F150 (commonly
called a 1/2 ton) pickup truck They kept the boat on its trailer in their
driveway during the week and towed it where ever they wanted to go on
evenings or weekends. The boat had an inboard/outboard drive arrangement
with a V-6 engine.
Would something like this be enough to get you started into boating? It
doesn't meet all you expressed needs but is a good start perhaps. You could
move up to a bigger boat as your experience and preferences develop.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca

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Ante Topic Mimara ] wrote:

Cindy Ballreich writes:

Ante Topic Mimara wrote:

I do not like to give this up, as it has been a life long
dream for me to have a small boat like this, but I do not
see how I can do with it what I wish to do.

There are smaller boats that would probably meet your needs.

I have looked at several web sites that sell boats, and I have
not seen anything much under 27 or 28 feet that looks like what
I was wanting. Almost all of these boats that are smaller than
this, are all open, and do not have anything inside to sleep
on, or eat, or have heads, or anything. If I could find something
like this, I would be happy, but I have not.

My SIL has a 26.5 foot catamaran motor boat with two outboards and it
trailers and also has a very shallow draft which is really good for
the south FL area. It has places to sleep, and they have a portapot
and cook on a grill.

There are tons of sailboats that have more facilities than that (he
also had a Catalina sailboat for awhile which he got at a sheriff's
auction for about $250 but he then had to buy a trailer for it to get
it home). It had a deck stepped mast so that he and my husband could
raise the mast before they launched it.

You might find it interesting/educational to attend a large
boat show or two. You'll be able to inspect many different
kinds of trailer-able boats and get a much better idea of the
features and specs you will need. You'll be able to get
information about proper tow vehicles and various state
requirements. It sounds like new boats are out of your price
range, but you can take the information you gain out into the
used boat market and shop with more confidence.

Thank you for this most excellent advice. I am still thinking
that I am going to give this dream up, as I do not think I will
ever find what it is that I looking for, and have had too many
people I have never seen give good advice, decide to call me a
troll. If they are what most boater-people are like, they can
have it.

I would hope that you are what most boater-people are like, since
you have given me good information, but I have seen too many people
be suspicious and hateful.

There are some big boat shows in this part of the country over the
summer, I think. I will do a search on the internet to find out some
more details, and then go and see what they have there.

Thank you again for your good helpful advice. I will take it.

Why not also go to yachtworld.com and do a search on power boats that
meet your specifications? I would be surprised if you don't find a
whole bunch.

grandma Rosalie

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Ante Topic Mimara ] wrote:

Cindy Ballreich writes:

Ante Topic Mimara wrote:

I do not like to give this up, as it has been a life long
dream for me to have a small boat like this, but I do not
see how I can do with it what I wish to do.

There are smaller boats that would probably meet your needs.

I have looked at several web sites that sell boats, and I have
not seen anything much under 27 or 28 feet that looks like what
I was wanting. Almost all of these boats that are smaller than
this, are all open, and do not have anything inside to sleep
on, or eat, or have heads, or anything. If I could find something
like this, I would be happy, but I have not.

My SIL has a 26.5 foot catamaran motor boat with two outboards and it
trailers and also has a very shallow draft which is really good for
the south FL area. It has places to sleep, and they have a portapot
and cook on a grill.

There are tons of sailboats that have more facilities than that (he
also had a Catalina sailboat for awhile which he got at a sheriff's
auction for about $250 but he then had to buy a trailer for it to get
it home). It had a deck stepped mast so that he and my husband could
raise the mast before they launched it.

You might find it interesting/educational to attend a large
boat show or two. You'll be able to inspect many different
kinds of trailer-able boats and get a much better idea of the
features and specs you will need. You'll be able to get
information about proper tow vehicles and various state
requirements. It sounds like new boats are out of your price
range, but you can take the information you gain out into the
used boat market and shop with more confidence.

Thank you for this most excellent advice. I am still thinking
that I am going to give this dream up, as I do not think I will
ever find what it is that I looking for, and have had too many
people I have never seen give good advice, decide to call me a
troll. If they are what most boater-people are like, they can
have it.

I would hope that you are what most boater-people are like, since
you have given me good information, but I have seen too many people
be suspicious and hateful.

There are some big boat shows in this part of the country over the
summer, I think. I will do a search on the internet to find out some
more details, and then go and see what they have there.

Thank you again for your good helpful advice. I will take it.

Why not also go to yachtworld.com and do a search on power boats that
meet your specifications? I would be surprised if you don't find a
whole bunch.

grandma Rosalie