"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:36:31 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

The alternative being to ignore the environmental issues and continue to
pollute

So, Jon, I take it you favor requiring boaters to get permits from the EPA
before washing their boats?


Not at all. I'm in favor of responsible laws and enforcement. Your claim
that enviros and bureaucrats are teaming up against boaters was a bit
far-fetched, given the current administration certainly.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 May 2008 11:49:41 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

Your claim
that enviros and bureaucrats are teaming up against boaters was a bit
far-fetched

So I take it you don't think the enviros would line up in favor of
requiring
permits for all discharges by recreational boaters? And you don't think
that
if there were such a requirement the bureaucrats would ask for more people
and money to process the applications?


Which "enviros" are you talking about?

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 May 2008 14:04:04 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:


Which "enviros" are you talking about?

Take your pick.


Earth First!

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 May 2008 14:04:04 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:


Which "enviros" are you talking about?

Take your pick.


Earth First in league with Bushco! Even better.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 May 2008 17:10:14 -0400, said:

Which "enviros" are you talking about?

The ones he sees all around him when he closes his eyes.

Hey, it's at least as good a pejorative term as "neocons" g.


They've defined themselves as that, so it isn't pejorative unless it's
self-inflicted.

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On 23 May 2008 18:25:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2008 17:10:14 -0400, said:

Which "enviros" are you talking about?
The ones he sees all around him when he closes his eyes.
Hey, it's at least as good a pejorative term as "neocons" g.

The "enviros" as you call them, at least mean well, unlike neocons, who are
malevolent.

Funny distinction. One of the main problem with the environmental
movement is that it places human interest way to low and plant and
animal interest way to high. This is anti-human and therefore malevolent.

Stephen

"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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wrote:
On 23 May 2008 18:25:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2008 17:10:14 -0400, said:

Which "enviros" are you talking about?
The ones he sees all around him when he closes his eyes.
Hey, it's at least as good a pejorative term as "neocons" g.

The "enviros" as you call them, at least mean well, unlike neocons, who
are
malevolent.

Funny distinction. One of the main problem with the environmental movement
is that it places human interest way to low and plant and animal interest
way to high. This is anti-human and therefore malevolent.

Stephen



As though one can actually separate the these interests... as opposed to big
oil who actually cares about human welfare...

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"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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wrote:
On 23 May 2008 18:25:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2008 17:10:14 -0400, said:

Which "enviros" are you talking about?
The ones he sees all around him when he closes his eyes.
Hey, it's at least as good a pejorative term as "neocons" g.

The "enviros" as you call them, at least mean well, unlike neocons, who
are
malevolent.

Funny distinction. One of the main problem with the environmental movement
is that it places human interest way to low and plant and animal interest
way to high. This is anti-human and therefore malevolent.

Stephen


It is not the plants and animals that are hurting the environment...

"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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wrote:
On 23 May 2008 18:25:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2008 17:10:14 -0400, said:

Which "enviros" are you talking about?
The ones he sees all around him when he closes his eyes.
Hey, it's at least as good a pejorative term as "neocons" g.

The "enviros" as you call them, at least mean well, unlike neocons, who
are
malevolent.

Funny distinction. One of the main problem with the environmental
movement is that it places human interest way to low and plant and animal
interest way to high. This is anti-human and therefore malevolent.

Stephen


It is not the plants and animals that are hurting the environment...



Actually, cows produce a lot of greenhouse gasses. Of course, we eat them,
but not fast enough, apparently.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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wrote:
On 23 May 2008 18:25:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2008 17:10:14 -0400, said:

Which "enviros" are you talking about?
The ones he sees all around him when he closes his eyes.
Hey, it's at least as good a pejorative term as "neocons" g.

The "enviros" as you call them, at least mean well, unlike neocons, who
are
malevolent.

Funny distinction. One of the main problem with the environmental
movement is that it places human interest way to low and plant and
animal interest way to high. This is anti-human and therefore
malevolent.

Stephen


It is not the plants and animals that are hurting the environment...



Actually, cows produce a lot of greenhouse gasses. Of course, we eat them,
but not fast enough, apparently.

I wonder if the number of cows in USA is greater than the number of
buffaloes that used to be there before global warming became an issue?