On Apr 20, 7:20*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:45:03 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"

wrote:
Few if any of you
reading this anchor in the few "Special Ancorages" that are available as
most of them are very exposed to wind and sea and generally exist for the
sake of large shipping interests waiting to come into port.



Bull kwap nonsense, most of them are mooring fields.

I think you need to broaden you horizons and sail around a bit more.
In the PNW morring fields dont exist. We got slips in marinas and the
wild wooley west style of just finding a place out of the wind and
anchor.... in the estuary of course. Unless ya would like to anchor
off Seattle........ ! Better have l o t s of rode there ! ! !

Bob

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:20:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:45:03 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Few if any of you
reading this anchor in the few "Special Ancorages" that are available as
most of them are very exposed to wind and sea and generally exist for the
sake of large shipping interests waiting to come into port.

Bull kwap nonsense, most of them are mooring fields.

What in God's world is a "mooring field?" I know what a mooring is, it
is something you tie a boat to when you don't want it to go away, and
I know what a field is, it is a place to grow hay to feed the cattle
when the show is six feet deep. But I'll be damned if I can figure out
what a mooring field is. A field to tie up a boat in? Seems redundant,
if it is in a field why do you need to tie it up? It is on solid land.
Is this some of this modern english that us old farts don't
understand? Heh man! Cool! Righteous!

It is things like this (and Hillary) that make me glad I don't live
there any more.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:19:55 -0400, wrote:

We miss you, too. A field is a two dimensional area. The stars on the
US Flag are on a field of blue. See if you can figure it out from
there...

Unless it is three dimensional, as in a magnetic field.

Casady

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:20:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:45:03 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Few if any of you
reading this anchor in the few "Special Ancorages" that are available as
most of them are very exposed to wind and sea and generally exist for the
sake of large shipping interests waiting to come into port.

Bull kwap nonsense, most of them are mooring fields.

What in God's world is a "mooring field?" I know what a mooring is, it
is something you tie a boat to when you don't want it to go away, and
I know what a field is, it is a place to grow hay to feed the cattle
when the show is six feet deep. But I'll be damned if I can figure out
what a mooring field is. A field to tie up a boat in? Seems redundant,
if it is in a field why do you need to tie it up? It is on solid land.
Is this some of this modern english that us old farts don't
understand? Heh man! Cool! Righteous!

It is things like this (and Hillary) that make me glad I don't live
there any more.


That's one of the more sensible posts you've written to date, sir! Good to
see you having a lucid moment.

But, the sad fact is that younger yachties here in the U.S.A. LOVE mooring
fields. They often support the concept whole-heartedly. They would rather
pay dearly for a dubious mooring where one is surrounded as closely as a
boat length by other fools who think a cluster f*ck is the cat's meow than
seek out a nice, quiet, private place to anchor. (Skippy comes to mind!)

Rather than acquiring the proper ground tackle and learning how to use it so
they have confidence in it, they prefer to pay for the 'privilege' of being
treated like so much cordwood. But this is sailing to most of them. They are
a generation in dependent sheep. who quake in fear at the very thought of
living in a "foreign country" that has few rules and regulations. They would
be paralyzed because there isn't a bunch of rules and regulations they must
follow and feel good about following since it takes the responsibility of
decision from them.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:02:16 -0400, "Roger Long"
wrote:

A mooring field is an area where the moorings are so closely spaced, often
in a regular pattern, that anchoring between them would be impractical.
Often, they are so close that just navigating through the area is difficult
and channels are often left for the purpose. Usually, a mooring field is
overseen and mooring locations managed by someone like me. There are
"unofficial" mooring fields where coves or harbors have simply filled up
with moorings.

Working definition: If you can find a place to set a hook in amongst the
moorings, it is not a mooring field. If you say, "Dang, we'll have to jill
around while we send someone ashore in the dinghy for ice and beer and then
go anchor around the point", it's a mooring field.


I'm pretty sure that they didn't have them things when I was sailing
down that a way. Used to be you could just find a nook and drop the
hook and take the dinghy to shore to find out where you were.

Sounds like it has all gone down hill since I left.

Heck, you could sail nearly anywhere in the state without even
catching a lobster pot.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)

"Roger Long" wrote in message
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A mooring field is an area where the moorings are so closely spaced, often
in a regular pattern, that anchoring between them would be impractical.
Often, they are so close that just navigating through the area is difficult
and channels are often left for the purpose. Usually, a mooring field is
overseen and mooring locations managed by someone like me. There are
"unofficial" mooring fields where coves or harbors have simply filled up
with moorings.

Working definition: If you can find a place to set a hook in amongst the
moorings, it is not a mooring field. If you say, "Dang, we'll have to
jill around while we send someone ashore in the dinghy for ice and beer
and then go anchor around the point", it's a mooring field.

--
Roger Long


I good example is what they have off Catalina... lots and lots of boats tied
up in a relatively small space. We have similiar at Angel Island. The
wind/currents are such there that everyone ties bow to one and stern to
another, so no one swings into another boat. This works great for large
raft-ups that happen at various times... 10+ boats in a raft up.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On 21 Apr 2008 09:44:12 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:33:16 GMT, (Richard
Casady) said:

Here in Iowa

Where in Iowa are you?

Near Des Moines, in the country. Do the boating on Spirit Lake, 200
miles North and West of here.. Have a 22 foot aluminum Cuddy. Lots of
locking storage. 175 HP 4 cylinder MerCruiser. I just might cruise the
Great Lakes with it.

Casady

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:03:59 GMT, (Richard
Casady) said:

Do the boating on Spirit Lake, 200
miles North and West of here.

I know it well. Used to teach swimming at Okiboji, and first sailed there
on
a little sunfish clone.


I used to own a sunfish down in San Diego about 100 years ago... co-owned it
actually, since neither of could afford it on our own. What a great little
boat.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
news:Yqadnde8ptHjIpHVnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@bayareasolut ions...
I good example is what they have off Catalina... lots and lots of boats
tied
up in a relatively small space. We have similiar at Angel Island. The
wind/currents are such there that everyone ties bow to one and stern to
another, so no one swings into another boat. This works great for large
raft-ups that happen at various times... 10+ boats in a raft up.

Call me anti-social, but I would go somewhere else if I found I was likely
to be rafted up with 10 other boats.
Feet pounding across your deck at all hours of the night, loud drunken
voices ditto, some idiot playing loud music of his choice to entertain
everyone else, etc, etc.etc.
No, thanks. That is not my idea of cruising.

"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
news:Yqadnde8ptHjIpHVnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@bayareasolut ions...
I good example is what they have off Catalina... lots and lots of boats
tied
up in a relatively small space. We have similiar at Angel Island. The
wind/currents are such there that everyone ties bow to one and stern to
another, so no one swings into another boat. This works great for large
raft-ups that happen at various times... 10+ boats in a raft up.

Call me anti-social, but I would go somewhere else if I found I was likely
to be rafted up with 10 other boats.
Feet pounding across your deck at all hours of the night, loud drunken
voices ditto, some idiot playing loud music of his choice to entertain
everyone else, etc, etc.etc.
No, thanks. That is not my idea of cruising.


I happen to agree with you completely and adamantly on this one.

Rafting up is just the stupidest, lamest, most ignorant and often dangerous
thing yachties do. What if a storm comes up quickly in the middle of the
night? There will be mayhem, mass confusion and a giant cluster f*ck along
with widespread major and minor damage to all yachts concerned. Perhaps even
multiple injuries to crews trying to get out of the raft-up in severe wind
and sea conditions.

Anybody willingly subjecting themselves and their vessels to that kind of
thing needs to examine why he's sailing. Stay home if you need a crowd to
feel comfortable! Stay at a hotel or join a commune.

Wilbur Hubbard