Larry wrote:


Before 9/11/2001, not a single steel reinforce building every collapsed
from a fire, even fires that went on for days consuming the whole building!
The structure still stood. So much for that nonsense.

How many were hit by fully fueled 767's? I guess that they collapsed
into their own footprints indicates that GW Bush personally had a hand
in it, right?

You rabid Bush haters get weirder by the day.

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Larry wrote:

9/11/2001 was an INSIDE job. Those core colums in WTC 1, 2 AND SEVEN
were cut with THERMATE and remained at thousands of degrees HOTTER than
the best burning kerosene jet fuel for WEEKS AND WEEKS after the
controlled demolition which brought down the ONLY STEEL-REINFORCED
BUILDINGS EVER TO BE BROUGHT DOWN BY A FIRE...all in one day...and non
since.

Lordy Larry, I hope your not using Dr. Steve Jones as a "Source" for your
Thermate, evidence.... 'cause if your are, you best look into his
background, and credentials..... This guy wouldn't know the difference
between Thermate, or Thermite, if it came up and bit him in the ASS,
which it did, and got him fired, from his Teaching position ant BYU. for
Crying out Loud, he WAS, a Physicist, and not a really good one at that,
but he has absolutely NO expertise in Chemistry, and especially
NitroOrganic, ExoThermic, the uses of Energetic Materials, or Demolition
by Energetic Materials. He was a looser at BYU, and has fallen even
farther down the "Idiot Hill" since he was let go. Come on, give the
world, a break......

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"Paul Cassel" wrote in message
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Larry wrote:


Before 9/11/2001, not a single steel reinforce building every collapsed
from a fire, even fires that went on for days consuming the whole
building! The structure still stood. So much for that nonsense.

How many were hit by fully fueled 767's? I guess that they collapsed into
their own footprints indicates that GW Bush personally had a hand in it,
right?

You rabid Bush haters get weirder by the day.


I'm a Bush hater, and I don't believe he had anything to do with 9/11. He
was totally uninterested before it happened, and afterward he attacked Iraq,
who had nothing to do with it.

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Paul Cassel wrote in
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You rabid Bush haters get weirder by the day.



I voted for GW Bush, not once, but twice.....

So much for that ****, too.....(sigh)

On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:52:16 +0000, Larry wrote:

Jere, I'm sorry for your trauma. But, alas, how DO you explain away the
lack of a huge airplane full of people, seats, luggage, titanium alloy
unburnable massive 6-ton engines that flew into the Pentagram and simply
vanished?

Titanium unburnable? It burns so well that they use it as a fuel in
fireworks. They used it as fuel in flashbulbs. You can light a fine
shaving with a match. All metals will burn, but some are harder to
light. In a good jet fuel fire the aluminum parts of the plane will
burn.

Casady

On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:12:27 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:12:14 -0500, Martin Baxter
wrote:

Load of hooey anyway, you don't need that great a temperature to soften
steel. You don't even need thermite in a Bessemer converter, coke,
regular air and shot of oxygen will do just fine.

Yes, and you don't need an outside source of oxygen either. Steel can
and does soften enough to lose its' structural properties from
ordinary fires.

Coal is quite frequently used as fuel in forges. Coal has a heat value
of 12 - 13,000 BTU/Lb. #1 Fuel oil (kerosine) has a heat value of
about 20,000 BTU/Lb.
Given that you can heat steel far past its softening temperature in a
coal fired forge (all you need is more air) it would seem likely that
an Fuel oil fueled fire would do as well.

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Bruce-in-Bangkok
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"Larry" wrote in message
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Paul Cassel wrote in
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You rabid Bush haters get weirder by the day.



I voted for GW Bush, not once, but twice.....

So much for that ****, too.....(sigh)


Perhaps you should vote for him again... McCain.

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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:28:06 +0000, Larry wrote:

Wayne.B wrote in
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:12:14 -0500, Martin Baxter
wrote:

Load of hooey anyway, you don't need that great a temperature to soften
steel. You don't even need thermite in a Bessemer converter, coke,
regular air and shot of oxygen will do just fine.

Yes, and you don't need an outside source of oxygen either. Steel can
and does soften enough to lose its' structural properties from
ordinary fires.


Before 9/11/2001, not a single steel reinforce building every collapsed
from a fire, even fires that went on for days consuming the whole building!
The structure still stood. So much for that nonsense.

On 9/11/2001, THREE steel reinforced buildings mysteriously collapsed,
straight down into their own footprint, at free-fall speeds....in one day.

Not a single steel reinforced building since 9/11/2001 has collapsed as a
results of fire, even fires that went on for days consuming the whole
building! The structure still stood....and you don't find that at all
curious?

http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/.../infernos.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/anal...are/fires.html


http://www.news24.com/News24/World/N...661730,00.html
IT DIDN'T COLLAPSE!

Larry, I think the greatest argument against the conspiracy theory is
the fact that it hasn't yet been exposed in main stream news. The
theory that the Government can keep a secret has long been refuted.

What has the government ever done that someone didn't rat them out and
got them exposed in the newspapers and TV? Vietnam? Nixon? Clinton?
Bush election? the prisons in Iraq, the Gitmo prisoners? The
government hasn't been able to keep a secret since the sinking of the
Maine in Havana Harbor.

Just imagine one scenario. You were one of the jack hammer guys. Now,
being a fairly sensible bloke you took a few pictures with your handy
little hand phone; you remembered who else was on the gang with you;
you even remembered who the boss was.

Now, this afternoon you catch an airplane to wherever Hillary is and
get hold of her campaign boss and tell him that you have irrefutable
evidence, names, photos, times, dates and places, to prove that the US
Government under Bush knocked down the towers.

Would they stuff in your greedy little pockets for that information?
Would Hillary get elected, and reelected, if she uncovered that little
snafu? Does a bear crap in the woods?

Bruce-in-Bangkok
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from address for reply)

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
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Does a bear crap in the woods?



Bruce... get it right...

The Pope craps in the woods. The bear is Catholic.

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Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:52:16 +0000, Larry wrote:

Jere, I'm sorry for your trauma. But, alas, how DO you explain away the
lack of a huge airplane full of people, seats, luggage, titanium alloy
unburnable massive 6-ton engines that flew into the Pentagram and simply
vanished?

Titanium unburnable? It burns so well that they use it as a fuel in
fireworks. They used it as fuel in flashbulbs. You can light a fine
shaving with a match. All metals will burn, but some are harder to
light. In a good jet fuel fire the aluminum parts of the plane will
burn.


Indeed, for a really nice aluminum fire, recall the HMS Sheffield,
during the Falklands War.

One of the coolest things I've ever seen was an old LawnBoy lawnmower
burning up, that was back when they made the decks out of magnesium.

Cheers
Marty