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Parallax January 27th 04 04:13 AM

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(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
As to darkness, nonsense. That's why vessels have running lights.


When was the last time you saw a rock with running lights


when is the last time you saw an uncharted rock that shows up on radar?


Maybe I'll put radar in with my desired asteroid deflector.

Keith January 27th 04 11:18 AM

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Only if you have an open array rotating.

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Keith
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"Great spirits have always encountered
violent opposition from mediocre minds."
... Albert Einstein
"Armond Perretta" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:

Having made a cruise this past fall in which we spent a good amount
of time learning to use our radar, and then going through several
incidents that pointed out how useful a tool it can be, I am
convinced that it is a great thing to have ...


One important reason to buy a radar is because it looks really cool when
entering the marina, especially when combined with new foul weather gear.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com












Keith January 27th 04 11:18 AM

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Only if you have an open array rotating.

--


Keith
__
"Great spirits have always encountered
violent opposition from mediocre minds."
... Albert Einstein
"Armond Perretta" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:

Having made a cruise this past fall in which we spent a good amount
of time learning to use our radar, and then going through several
incidents that pointed out how useful a tool it can be, I am
convinced that it is a great thing to have ...


One important reason to buy a radar is because it looks really cool when
entering the marina, especially when combined with new foul weather gear.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com












otnmbrd January 27th 04 05:41 PM

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JAXAshby wrote:
Seen a number of those "uncharted rocks" on radar



no you haven't. an uncharted rock will be below water or so low in the water
so as to not show up on radar with any kind of sea running.


An uncharted rock may be always submerged, uncovered at low water
(potentially visible on radar) or always uncovered (visible on radar).
It's a big world out there and not all places that you may go to have
been thoroughly surveyed and not all charts are totally accurate.
Stand by my statement.

otn


otnmbrd January 27th 04 05:41 PM

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JAXAshby wrote:
Seen a number of those "uncharted rocks" on radar



no you haven't. an uncharted rock will be below water or so low in the water
so as to not show up on radar with any kind of sea running.


An uncharted rock may be always submerged, uncovered at low water
(potentially visible on radar) or always uncovered (visible on radar).
It's a big world out there and not all places that you may go to have
been thoroughly surveyed and not all charts are totally accurate.
Stand by my statement.

otn


JAXAshby January 27th 04 05:48 PM

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stand all you want but you ain't gonna see no uncharted rocks under water, nor
uncharted rocks low in the water with any seas running, nor are *you* gonna be
anywhere there are uncharted rocks high enough out of the water to be seen on
radar.

And if you were, why in hell are you going so fast in a fog?

dude, you obviously have VERY limited to zero experience with radar. You read
too many books.

Seen a number of those "uncharted rocks" on radar



no you haven't. an uncharted rock will be below water or so low in the

water
so as to not show up on radar with any kind of sea running.


An uncharted rock may be always submerged, uncovered at low water
(potentially visible on radar) or always uncovered (visible on radar).
It's a big world out there and not all places that you may go to have
been thoroughly surveyed and not all charts are totally accurate.
Stand by my statement.

otn










JAXAshby January 27th 04 05:48 PM

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stand all you want but you ain't gonna see no uncharted rocks under water, nor
uncharted rocks low in the water with any seas running, nor are *you* gonna be
anywhere there are uncharted rocks high enough out of the water to be seen on
radar.

And if you were, why in hell are you going so fast in a fog?

dude, you obviously have VERY limited to zero experience with radar. You read
too many books.

Seen a number of those "uncharted rocks" on radar



no you haven't. an uncharted rock will be below water or so low in the

water
so as to not show up on radar with any kind of sea running.


An uncharted rock may be always submerged, uncovered at low water
(potentially visible on radar) or always uncovered (visible on radar).
It's a big world out there and not all places that you may go to have
been thoroughly surveyed and not all charts are totally accurate.
Stand by my statement.

otn










otnmbrd January 27th 04 08:16 PM

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JAXAshby wrote:
stand all you want but you ain't gonna see no uncharted rocks under water,


Not with radar, but never said I would.

nor
uncharted rocks low in the water with any seas running,


Without seas running, may. With seas running, still may .... might pick
up added sea return in a specific area .... beyond your experience and
knowledge.

nor are *you* gonna be
anywhere there are uncharted rocks high enough out of the water to be seen on
radar.


Mebbe not anymore, but definitely in the past.


And if you were, why in hell are you going so fast in a fog?


Who said I was?

dude, you obviously have VERY limited to zero experience with radar. You read
too many books.


ROFL dude, you don't read enough books. I probably spend more time as
radar observer, on my week off, than you do in a year.

otn




otnmbrd January 27th 04 08:16 PM

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JAXAshby wrote:
stand all you want but you ain't gonna see no uncharted rocks under water,


Not with radar, but never said I would.

nor
uncharted rocks low in the water with any seas running,


Without seas running, may. With seas running, still may .... might pick
up added sea return in a specific area .... beyond your experience and
knowledge.

nor are *you* gonna be
anywhere there are uncharted rocks high enough out of the water to be seen on
radar.


Mebbe not anymore, but definitely in the past.


And if you were, why in hell are you going so fast in a fog?


Who said I was?

dude, you obviously have VERY limited to zero experience with radar. You read
too many books.


ROFL dude, you don't read enough books. I probably spend more time as
radar observer, on my week off, than you do in a year.

otn




Armond Perretta January 27th 04 09:30 PM

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Dave wrote:
"Armond Perretta" said
Dave wrote:
Armond wrote:

Any person who
regularly operates ... without radar in ...
decreased visibility (and I include ... darkness in this
category) is ... taking the position that "its up to the
other guy to avoid me."

As to darkness, nonsense. That's why vessels have running lights.


When was the last time you saw a rock with running lights ... ?


When was the last time you saw a submerged [sic] rock on radar? ...


Who said anything about "submerged"?

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com












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