Sheesh!
Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for". That is the most worn out,
least apropriate addage to soil our ears. It is the phrase that
advertizers leaked to the masses. do you now whay a Rolex costs so much?
simpy because of the exclusivity factor not because it is 'worth it' or
that it keps time 20,000 times better. I can think of hundreds of
instances personally where i got less and paid more....
If you can see at all in the dark even once and avoided a collision for
$70 it would be "worth it" would it not?
now, where was I??? oh yeah, building the better mouse trap and waiting
for the world to beat a path to my door.
(no harm intended, just my pet peave)

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:56:08 GMT, just me wrote:

mostly junk!!1
you get what you pay for...


"Jed" wrote in message
...
Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=45372

Any experiences or others available?










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I don't know about the night vision stuff, but I bought a pair
of binoculars from Land and Sea for about $70 and they are
far better than some than of the expensive ones that I have
tried.
They may be junk to some, but they give me a nice bright image
and are rubber coated so you can knock them around a little. I
really wanted a nice Steiner, but they had a demo pair of these
and I tried them and bought them on the spot. Maybe some day we
will go for the high priced ones with the compass, but right now
we are happy with what we have.

Leanne B
S/V Fundy

I wonder how accurate the 'rangefinder' option is on some binoculars.

Leanne wrote in message
...
I don't know about the night vision stuff, but I bought a pair
of binoculars from Land and Sea for about $70 and they are
far better than some than of the expensive ones that I have
tried.
They may be junk to some, but they give me a nice bright image
and are rubber coated so you can knock them around a little. I
really wanted a nice Steiner, but they had a demo pair of these
and I tried them and bought them on the spot. Maybe some day we
will go for the high priced ones with the compass, but right now
we are happy with what we have.

Leanne B
S/V Fundy

Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My friend has
a pair of Steiners that cost 549.00, 2 1/2 times the price.
The Fuji's matched the Steiners in nearly everyway and were better ballanced
and easier to hold and focus. The only edge the Steiners had was a less color
fringing at the edge of FOV. At night we gave the edge to the Fujinons for
brighter image.
Anyone who says "you get what you pay for" is not a smart shopper. But I do
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB

On 29 Nov 2003 15:29:26 GMT, Bobsprit wrote:

Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My
snip......
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you
shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB


the corolory to my aphorism was tacitly implied, thanks for clarifying
that which obsfucated my succintly honed point.
rick

oh yeah, IMHO you are correct.

"rick" wrote in message
news
On 29 Nov 2003 15:29:26 GMT, Bobsprit wrote:

Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My
snip......
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you
shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB


the corolory to my aphorism was tacitly implied, thanks for clarifying
that which obsfucated my succintly honed point.
rick

oh yeah, IMHO you are correct.

OH GEEZ where is my dictionary?

The point is that these things (GEN 1 units) are all made by a few Russian
companies and unless you get a Gen 2 or 3 all of the Gen 1 units will give
you a similar image quality. The one posted from Harbor Freight is their
own model but it is just a rebranded NZT-1
(http://store.yahoo.com/opticsplanet/atn-nzt1.html). So IMHO get the
cheapest one you can. Just keep in mind that they don't work like on TV
where you can everything like it is day. You will not be able to see the
markers or dock unless you are close to them and it is a full moon. It is
more *like* using the night shot feature on a sony video camera. With that
being said, I like the
(http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47420)
which is a rebranded Regal Optics Selena NV-3
(http://www.nightvisionstore.com/Rige...lena%20NVB.htm).

mark

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:18:58 -0500, "rock_doctor"
wrote:
Nice post! Factual, informative, interesting, useful.
But how does HF sell the same item for half price?
$70 vs $140 Amazing...

Brian w

... these things (GEN 1 units) are all made by a few Russian
companies and unless you get a Gen 2 or 3 all of the Gen 1 units will give
you a similar image quality. The one posted from Harbor Freight is their
own model but it is just a rebranded NZT-1
(http://store.yahoo.com/opticsplanet/atn-nzt1.html). So IMHO get the
cheapest one you can. Just keep in mind that they don't work like on TV
where you can everything like it is day. You will not be able to see the
markers or dock unless you are close to them and it is a full moon. It is
more *like* using the night shot feature on a sony video camera. With that
being said, I like the
(http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47420)
which is a rebranded Regal Optics Selena NV-3
(http://www.nightvisionstore.com/Rige...lena%20NVB.htm).

mark

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:18:58 -0500, "rock_doctor"
wrote:
Nice post! Factual, informative, interesting, useful.
But how does HF sell the same item for half price?
$70 vs $140 Amazing...

I think they buy in high quantity and don't mark up too much. I have
several of their tools (90 wire welder $99 for example) and find their
products to be quite good. Plus I suspect that since these items are made
in Russia they buy directly from the manufacturer for a reduced rate and
import it themselves while the other venders mark-up and probably buy from
other importers.

good luck,
mark

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:18:58 -0500, "rock_doctor"
wrote:
Nice post! Factual, informative, interesting, useful.
But how does HF sell the same item for half price?
$70 vs $140 Amazing...

I think they buy in high quantity and don't mark up too much. I have
several of their tools (90 wire welder $99 for example) and find their
products to be quite good. Plus I suspect that since these items are made
in Russia they buy directly from the manufacturer for a reduced rate and
import it themselves while the other venders mark-up and probably buy from
other importers.

good luck,
mark

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:18:58 -0500, "rock_doctor"
wrote:
Nice post! Factual, informative, interesting, useful.
But how does HF sell the same item for half price?
$70 vs $140 Amazing...

Brian w

... these things (GEN 1 units) are all made by a few Russian
companies and unless you get a Gen 2 or 3 all of the Gen 1 units will give
you a similar image quality. The one posted from Harbor Freight is their
own model but it is just a rebranded NZT-1
(http://store.yahoo.com/opticsplanet/atn-nzt1.html). So IMHO get the
cheapest one you can. Just keep in mind that they don't work like on TV
where you can everything like it is day. You will not be able to see the
markers or dock unless you are close to them and it is a full moon. It is
more *like* using the night shot feature on a sony video camera. With that
being said, I like the
(http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47420)
which is a rebranded Regal Optics Selena NV-3
(http://www.nightvisionstore.com/Rige...lena%20NVB.htm).

mark