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Buying a used 45 -50 cruising sailboat soon, but what material?
concrete?...seems difficult to get a good one wood....lots of maintenance? steel....hot in summer down here in australia grp....don't know much about it all thoughts most appreciated! |
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"aussie" yup wrote in message news:3fb53e58@news1... Buying a used 45 -50 cruising sailboat soon, but what material? concrete?...seems difficult to get a good one wood....lots of maintenance? steel....hot in summer down here in australia grp....don't know much about it all thoughts most appreciated! I would say steel, from what I can see the upsides are strength, hitting a coral reef, the downsides having to lift it out every 1-2 years to sandblast, also second hand needs exspensive tests to see if any damage to the hull. This opinion is from an armchair sailor until I start practicing, so should be ignored pending experienced advice. Also with steel refitting can be easier, take out an oversized fuel tank for example by cracking it open and re welding. |
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"aussie" yup wrote in message news:3fb53e58@news1... Buying a used 45 -50 cruising sailboat soon, but what material? concrete?...seems difficult to get a good one wood....lots of maintenance? steel....hot in summer down here in australia grp....don't know much about it all thoughts most appreciated! I would say steel, from what I can see the upsides are strength, hitting a coral reef, the downsides having to lift it out every 1-2 years to sandblast, also second hand needs exspensive tests to see if any damage to the hull. This opinion is from an armchair sailor until I start practicing, so should be ignored pending experienced advice. Also with steel refitting can be easier, take out an oversized fuel tank for example by cracking it open and re welding. |
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Find the book "The Nature of Boats" by Dave Gerr - he discusses the pros and
cons of different building materials quite intelligently, which is not to say that he doesn't have strong opinions. ==== Charles T. Low - remove "UN" www.boatdocking.com www.ctlow.ca/Trojan26 - my boat ==== "aussie" yup wrote in message news:3fb53e58@news1... Buying a used 45 -50 cruising sailboat soon, but what material? concrete?...seems difficult to get a good one wood....lots of maintenance? steel....hot in summer down here in australia grp....don't know much about it all thoughts most appreciated! |
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Find the book "The Nature of Boats" by Dave Gerr - he discusses the pros and
cons of different building materials quite intelligently, which is not to say that he doesn't have strong opinions. ==== Charles T. Low - remove "UN" www.boatdocking.com www.ctlow.ca/Trojan26 - my boat ==== "aussie" yup wrote in message news:3fb53e58@news1... Buying a used 45 -50 cruising sailboat soon, but what material? concrete?...seems difficult to get a good one wood....lots of maintenance? steel....hot in summer down here in australia grp....don't know much about it all thoughts most appreciated! |
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I would say steel, Yes , I have had two steel boats up till now and I am building my 3rd. the downsides having to lift it out every 1-2 years to sandblast, You dont need to blast that often if you look after the boat .I repainted my hulls only once and only because I wanted to change the colour. second hand needs exspensive tests to see if any damage to the hull. True, But a good surveyor can tell if its worth shelling out for the expensive tests. The heat can be delt with have good insulation and ventalation.I sailed up the coast from Brisbane to Darwin in the summer of '98. And then up to the Solomon Islands for 4 months and my boat was pretty cool inside , 30 mm of spray on foam from the waterline up and accross the deckhead,5mm air space and then the ceiling keeps everything livable. Neil C |
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I would say steel, Yes , I have had two steel boats up till now and I am building my 3rd. the downsides having to lift it out every 1-2 years to sandblast, You dont need to blast that often if you look after the boat .I repainted my hulls only once and only because I wanted to change the colour. second hand needs exspensive tests to see if any damage to the hull. True, But a good surveyor can tell if its worth shelling out for the expensive tests. The heat can be delt with have good insulation and ventalation.I sailed up the coast from Brisbane to Darwin in the summer of '98. And then up to the Solomon Islands for 4 months and my boat was pretty cool inside , 30 mm of spray on foam from the waterline up and accross the deckhead,5mm air space and then the ceiling keeps everything livable. Neil C |
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I agree with Neil. I own a steel boat designed by Aussie Bruce
Roberts-Goodson (now living in Annapolis, Maryland, USA). He has created several good designs that can be built of steel. My Roberts Mauritius 43 has about 2-3 inches of foam insulation on the interior of the hull and the underside of the deck. It makes for a cool and quiet boat. It also prevents condensation that would otherwise cause rust. I have owned my boat for several years and have never sandblasted it. I lightly sand the bottom and re coat with antifouling paint every couple of years. The topsides and deck get spot painted when chips appear and lightly sanded and repainted every few years as needed. Much much easier maintenance than I ever would have imagined. I like steel for its strength and safety. I have ridden out seven hurricanes in the boat -- most at the dock, one at anchor. One hurricane drove my boat up against a pylon. Wooden pylon was chewed up; steel boat was not even scratched. Probably good sailors can own fiberglass boats. For those of us who have a habit of running aground and into other objects, steel is the only way to go. Lee Huddleston s/v Truelove |
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I agree with Neil. I own a steel boat designed by Aussie Bruce
Roberts-Goodson (now living in Annapolis, Maryland, USA). He has created several good designs that can be built of steel. My Roberts Mauritius 43 has about 2-3 inches of foam insulation on the interior of the hull and the underside of the deck. It makes for a cool and quiet boat. It also prevents condensation that would otherwise cause rust. I have owned my boat for several years and have never sandblasted it. I lightly sand the bottom and re coat with antifouling paint every couple of years. The topsides and deck get spot painted when chips appear and lightly sanded and repainted every few years as needed. Much much easier maintenance than I ever would have imagined. I like steel for its strength and safety. I have ridden out seven hurricanes in the boat -- most at the dock, one at anchor. One hurricane drove my boat up against a pylon. Wooden pylon was chewed up; steel boat was not even scratched. Probably good sailors can own fiberglass boats. For those of us who have a habit of running aground and into other objects, steel is the only way to go. Lee Huddleston s/v Truelove |
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"Lee Huddleston" wrote in message .. . snip I like steel for its strength and safety. I have ridden out seven hurricanes in the boat -- most at the dock, one at anchor. One hurricane drove my boat up against a pylon. Wooden pylon was chewed up; steel boat was not even scratched. Probably good sailors can own fiberglass boats. For those of us who have a habit of running aground and into other objects, steel is the only way to go. When we started looking for Fintry, steel was a requirement. I hope to never go aground, but when I do, I want to hurt the ground more than its hurts me. During the summer of 1996, when we crossed the Pacific, seven boats went on the reef (all due to owner carelessness). Four, all glass, were lost -- ground to little bits. Two glass boats came off -- they had attempted to enter port at night, hit the reef because they mistook shore lights for leading lights, and were pulled off quickly after a call for help. One, steel, went on the reef on the SE side of Fakarava -- 30 miles from the village of Rotoava and 250 miles from Papeete. She spent a week on the exposed reef and was finally dragged off by a tug -- looking like a kid's toy pulled across the playground on her side. Horribly battered, she floated without a leak, and , after repairs to her rudder and shaft, continued on her journey. -- Jim Woodward www.mvFintry.com .. |
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