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Roger Long wrote:
"Dennis Pogson" wrote

One tip Roger. When selecting charts to upload to the unit, you may
overlook
the fact that some larger area charts contain smaller area charts,
ie the same area is covered on 2 or more charts, but be aware that
the detail contained in the small area chart can be substantially
greater than that contained in the large area chart, so that zooming
in to a large area chart
does not give you the same amount of detail as using the smaller area
chart.



Are you saying that, if you have both charts loaded and active and
zoom in, the unit will give priority to the large scale chart and
suddenly present you with no detail as you sail into a bay or harbor?
This is a very important point because it could lead to loss of a
boat and life in a high stress situation. Having to suddenly go back
into set up and turn off the large scale chart just as I'm entering a
harbor would probably be enough to lead me to Ebay the whole thing.
I'll check this on mine but I'd appreciate your (or other Garmin
user) clarifiying as these kinds of operation are not always
consistent.

The road / chart conflict I know about. That's why I'm segregating
road and marine data on two separate data cards.


No, I am saying that if you load the large-scale chart, but miss out the
smaller-scale chart, you will have only the detail which is included on the
large-scale chart, so either load both, or just the small-scale charts. The
Garmin always seems to seek out the chart with the greatest detail when you
zoom in. These smaller charts do not always overlap anyhow, so you are best
to load the large-scale charts as well as the small-scale ones. If you find
yourself in an area not covered by a small-scale chart, you will know,
because as you zoom in, you lose detail.

Be careful when using the selection tool in Mapsource and examine the
highlighted chart borders carefully. As a check, list the charts you have
selected before uploading them to the Garmin, including any Tide and Marine
Services files since these are very useful when calculating HW and LW and
range without having to use your tide tables from the almanac. If you forget
to load these you have to do a complete reload of all the charts together
with the Tides and Marine Services files.

This is the way it works with my 60CS, your unit is obviously a CSx unit so
maybe using data cards does eliminate the problem of the Garmin deleting all
the charts in it's memory before loading new ones, i.e. you can't add charts
to the ones that are already there (in my 60CS that is), you have to upload
the whole of the old portfolio plus any new charts you may have forgotten.
Built-in memory probably behaves differently to SD card memory, so ignore if
all this is bull****!

I have found that having a pocketable chart display unit, which contains
good detailed charts, is a great asset, and saves having to leap up and down
the main hatch to check your laptop screen. I am getting too long in the
tooth for this game, and can do without the excercise! The BlueCharts are
superb in this area (West of Scotland) and I can usually manage without
resorting to paper stuff!

Dennis.


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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Larry" wrote in message
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In your position, Roger, I would not HESITATE to ask them if they'd seen
you on the Titanic programs and use that position to get your GPS
unlocked....subito!

If I were a marine electronics manufacturer and a marine architect,
especially one involved with finding the truth of Titanic, called to
complain about his little handheld GPS...knowing the people he even may
know in the marine community, I would be sending out a NEW GPS already
programmed with the MASTER unlock code to ALL the charts so this person
could use it while he is at sea on the next TV voyage.

To do otherwise would be just SUICIDE, not to mention really STUPID!

Larry
--


Yeah but....then they would expect him to hold up that Garmin GPS every
close shot Roger was in and give a blurp about how he couldn't have done
anything without his trusty tool.


Heheheh -- He said "trusty tool."


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Dennis Pogson wrote:
Roger Long wrote:
"Dennis Pogson" wrote

One tip Roger. When selecting charts to upload to the unit, you may
overlook
the fact that some larger area charts contain smaller area charts,
ie the same area is covered on 2 or more charts, but be aware that
the detail contained in the small area chart can be substantially
greater than that contained in the large area chart, so that zooming
in to a large area chart
does not give you the same amount of detail as using the smaller
area chart.



Are you saying that, if you have both charts loaded and active and
zoom in, the unit will give priority to the large scale chart and
suddenly present you with no detail as you sail into a bay or harbor?
This is a very important point because it could lead to loss of a
boat and life in a high stress situation. Having to suddenly go back
into set up and turn off the large scale chart just as I'm entering a
harbor would probably be enough to lead me to Ebay the whole thing.
I'll check this on mine but I'd appreciate your (or other Garmin
user) clarifiying as these kinds of operation are not always
consistent.

The road / chart conflict I know about. That's why I'm segregating
road and marine data on two separate data cards.


No, I am saying that if you load the large-scale chart, but miss out
the smaller-scale chart, you will have only the detail which is
included on the large-scale chart, so either load both, or just the
small-scale charts. The Garmin always seems to seek out the chart
with the greatest detail when you zoom in. These smaller charts do
not always overlap anyhow, so you are best to load the large-scale
charts as well as the small-scale ones. If you find yourself in an
area not covered by a small-scale chart, you will know, because as
you zoom in, you lose detail.

Roger,

Have just re-read my last post.

Please substitute the word "area" for the word "scale" in my previous post.
Small-scale charts cover a LARGE area and large-scale charts cover a SMALL
area!

You would think I'd been navigating for 2 weeks instead of 45 years, the old
brainbox must be suffering from all this global warming!

Dennis.


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On Apr 22, 8:21 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Roger ,, my Lowrance H20 C GPS is sitting on the desk. No unlock code.

All I do is turn it on, insert the little card with the navigation charts ..
and these charts cover everywhere on the east coast, west coat, everywhere.

The reason I went with Lowrance was the unlock code setup from Garmin..

A sailor on the newsgroup recommended the Lowrance to me.

I bought mind from Tiger GPS.. and internet store.. total was under $300.

If you are really upset with Garmin bring the GPS back and go Lowrance.

==="Roger Long" wrote in message

...



I got it.


I registered the GPS which I hadn't done the first time. The information
on finding the serial number in that site section is more complete but
still wrong. It says it is on the back but it is inside and is the
sticker I first used. I also appeares on a very small sticker on the top
(not the bottom) of the box that doesn't look like the sticker they show a
picture of on the web site.


Anyway, I went through the routine of unlocking for a second GPS (you are
allowed two) and it worked. I have my GPS working but now I have to call
Garmin and find out whether they think I have two units and see if I can
pursuade them to delete the first, ghost, unit so I can load the charts on
the backup GPS I have yet to buy.


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I have the same Lowrance and like it very much for the same reason -
the simplicity of just snapping the memory chip in for the maps, not
only no unlock codes, no cd's and no computer.

richforman

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Charlie Morgan wrote:

Nope. Garmin allows the enduser to register and unregister units as
often as they please, as long as they only have two units registered
at any one time. Garmin has excellent tech support for those who
can't follow printed directions. :')


I just got an email from Garmin Tech support saying that they had
unregistered my "ghost" GPS and I am now free to register a second unit.

They did not point me to anyway that I can unregister a unit myself and I
still can't find any choice to do that. Can you tell me how to unregister
on the web site?

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Charlie Morgan wrote:

It's been a long time since I did it, and I wasn't trying to remember
the procedure. It was a matter of clicking on the unit and selecting
"delete" or "unregister" or something along those lines. I suppose
it's possible they no longer have that feature.


You really, really think that I didnt' try that (right click, left click,
Registration Details, etc.) before we even had this exchange?

No, the option has been deleted. I can't complain about the quick respone
from tech support in deleating thed bogus one though.

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