On Feb 21, 10:21 am, Alan Gomes wrote:
druid wrote:
On Feb 21, 9:36 am, "Bob" wrote:
On Feb 21, 9:15 am, "KLC Lewis" wrote:

You can more-or-less harbor-hop up the coast, but beware of some very
treacherous coastal conditions
but in the
winter months there are the occasional southern gales.
Yes, the Oregon coast did experince one of thoes "southern gales" two
months ago.
SNIP

Of course I wouldn't consider such a trip in the winter months. I'm
going by my experience with the WCVI, which in the winter also has
"hurricane-force" storms and 10-meter seas. But in the summer, usually
the biggest problem is fog (which is why virtually ALL boats on WCVI
have radar). We went around Cape Caution in June and apart from the
swells, I could have taken my dinghy.

But it sounds like the Ore coast is not as nice as the WCVI, even in
summer. (although if it's ludicrous to be out in a 28-ft boat, why
does LaPush SOMETIMES have a warning for boats "under 26 feet"?)
An Islander 28 is not a "lake boat."

After looking a the picture of the cockpit I would call it a lake
boat. Why.... a huge cockpit with the door big enough to pass an
elephant below.... add the boards go right to the floor of the
cockpit. So what happens when the cockpit fills with water cause all
you got is two 3/4 inch cockpit drains...... the sten
squats..........the next wave blows your boards in........... the boat
floods......... electrics fry...... boat wallows ..........
blub........... blub............ blub............ Secon

Personally I have two 1 1/2" cockpit drains plus one 2 1/2" ID
drain........ a cockpit half your size on a 26,000 lb boat. As I said
earlier... and still feel ill prepared for cruising in the PNW.

THink your ready? Fill the cockpit with water to the top. See what
happens........... Now pull the plugs on the drains and time how long
it takes to drain. NOw compare the draiin time with the swell duration
youll incounter. 13 seconds for a nice 20' sea is not unreasonable.
Does your cockpit drain in time for that next wave hit?????????


Do not kid your self. Its a robust lake boat. Sure lots of people have
completed great voyage in less. I hear tale that people have even
sailed Nigra Falls in a barrel...... and survied.


It's a decently built coastal
cruiser,

Uh, which coast? Which season??????

Truck it. Have fun. Stay alive.

On Feb 21, 11:00 am, "Bob" wrote:
On Feb 21, 10:21 am, Alan Gomes wrote:

An Islander 28 is not a "lake boat."

After looking a the picture of the cockpit I would call it a lake
boat. Why.... a huge cockpit with the door big enough to pass an
elephant below.... add the boards go right to the floor of the
cockpit. So what happens when the cockpit fills with water cause all
you got is two 3/4 inch cockpit drains......

Simple Solutions:
1. Glass in the lowest companionway board.
2. remove the transom (like you had an outboard there). Water comes
in, water goes out. No chance of a clogged drain. Maybe put a board in
to stop most of a following wave. I saw one (Crown 28 I think) that
had a board in the "hole" rigged to drop down into a swim-grid. Sweet!

druid - had a wave come over the top of his Venture 22 and it didn't
sink

Bob wrote:
On Feb 21, 10:21 am, Alan Gomes wrote:
druid wrote:
snip
An Islander 28 is not a "lake boat."

After looking a the picture of the cockpit I would call it a lake
boat. Why.... a huge cockpit with the door big enough to pass an
elephant below.... add the boards go right to the floor of the
cockpit. So what happens when the cockpit fills with water cause all
you got is two 3/4 inch cockpit drains...... the sten
squats..........the next wave blows your boards in........... the boat
floods......... electrics fry...... boat wallows ..........
blub........... blub............ blub............ Secon

These shortcomings can be corrected without massive expense or huge
effort. But they would take some expense and some effort. As was pointed
out already, this will not be a boat that has had these shortcomings
addressed, and the point here is simply to take delivery of it and move
it to its new home. Hence, it is not an optimum boat for such a trip.

snip


Do not kid your self. Its a robust lake boat. Sure lots of people have
completed great voyage in less. I hear tale that people have even
sailed Nigra Falls in a barrel...... and survied.

I was wondering how long it would take for this specious argument to
surface, as it always does in such discussions. :-)

Obviously there is a range of risk in taking ANY vessel off shore. It's
on a continuum, with a "barrel" being on one end of the extreme. While
an Islander 28 may not be as suitable for offshore work as some other
designs, the comparison to going over Niagra Falls in a barrel--which is
really a dangerous stunt--is not at all apt. If you have a well-found
Islander 28, good sailing skills, and pick your weather windows
judiciously, the chances are high that you'll do fine, whereas the
chances of doing it successfully in, e.g., a Sabot, are pretty
low--though not zero.

Still, he won't know the boat, it's not optimum for this trip, the
things that could be done to mitigate the shortcomings will not be done
on this particular boat (which, even if done, would still not make it
optimum but would help), etc. etc. So I agree with those who say "truck
it." But I disagree with those who think it's in the category of a "stunt."


It's a decently built coastal
cruiser,

Uh, which coast? Which season??????

Any coast, depending on the weather. As I said, I'd pick my season
because of the relative unpredictability of winter weather.


Truck it. Have fun. Stay alive.