I am not sure I really understand what is broken on her but it seems
to be an issue of access to an area that has broken loose from the
hull inside. I see no reason why this cannot be fixed quickly and I'd
have perfect confidence in such a fix. He seems to have problems with
getting the part that has torn loose to be pressed against the hull
but that is no problem, simply a matter of pressure X area. Put a
large inner tube in the boat and inflate it to press the part against
the inner hull. The inner tube will conform to whatever it is
pressing against.
I bet that where it is torn loose is so rough that even a secondary
bond will be as strong as a primary one.
You can get your epoxy in any viscosity you like, put it in one of
those plastic sprayers used to spray insecticide onto bushes and use
the thin metal wand to spray it in there.
Now, get that boat outa the Keys or at least outa the boat yard. For
$500/wk you haul her all the way up here to N. FL and save money and
put her in a storage lot and fix her there. Live in a tent at a
travel trailer park or move from State Park to State Park till you can
move back aboard. Embrace the castaway lifestyle.
Skip, you got screwed but lets get some optimism back here and get
this thing done. You wanted adventure, you got it, not what you
planned but you sure got a good story. If your bad heart didnt give
up when this happed, your prob alright. Plus, riding bikes for
transport has gotta be good for you. Re-arrange yer thinking when
fixing her, settle for strong but looks like hell over finely done.
Resale value is never a reall issue for sailboats and you shouldnt
care about that now. Is your standing rigging really that messed up?
Do you really need a car in the Keys? Most places will deliver stuff
and you have bikes. Consider a scooter as if you were college kids.
Not much I can do from way up here in Tallahassee but when you decide
how to fix her I'll chip in a couple gals of epoxy as a tribute to
stubborn optimism. I'll be in the Keys sometime in March and if
you're still there I'll drop by and say Hi.
Anybody else have any good suggestions for strong quick fixes?

On Feb 14, 5:31 pm, "Frogwatch" wrote:
I am not sure I really understand what is broken on her but it seems
to be an issue of access to an area that has broken loose from the
hull inside. I see no reason why this cannot be fixed quickly and I'd
have perfect confidence in such a fix. He seems to have problems with
getting the part that has torn loose to be pressed against the hull
but that is no problem, simply a matter of pressure X area. Put a
large inner tube in the boat and inflate it to press the part against
the inner hull. The inner tube will conform to whatever it is
pressing against.
I bet that where it is torn loose is so rough that even a secondary
bond will be as strong as a primary one.
You can get your epoxy in any viscosity you like, put it in one of
those plastic sprayers used to spray insecticide onto bushes and use
the thin metal wand to spray it in there.
Now, get that boat outa the Keys or at least outa the boat yard. For
$500/wk you haul her all the way up here to N. FL and save money and
put her in a storage lot and fix her there. Live in a tent at a
travel trailer park or move from State Park to State Park till you can
move back aboard. Embrace the castaway lifestyle.
Skip, you got screwed but lets get some optimism back here and get
this thing done. You wanted adventure, you got it, not what you
planned but you sure got a good story. If your bad heart didnt give
up when this happed, your prob alright. Plus, riding bikes for
transport has gotta be good for you. Re-arrange yer thinking when
fixing her, settle for strong but looks like hell over finely done.
Resale value is never a reall issue for sailboats and you shouldnt
care about that now. Is your standing rigging really that messed up?
Do you really need a car in the Keys? Most places will deliver stuff
and you have bikes. Consider a scooter as if you were college kids.
Not much I can do from way up here in Tallahassee but when you decide
how to fix her I'll chip in a couple gals of epoxy as a tribute to
stubborn optimism. I'll be in the Keys sometime in March and if
you're still there I'll drop by and say Hi.
Anybody else have any good suggestions for strong quick fixes?

Right on Frogwatch!

Fix the rudder and motor it to Indiantown. They have even got a camp
ground on site. Gotta be cheaper than the Keys.

http://www.indiantownmarina.com/

On Feb 14, 4:42 pm, "capt.bill11" wrote:
On Feb 14, 5:31 pm, "Frogwatch" wrote:



I am not sure I really understand what is broken on her but it seems
to be an issue of access to an area that has broken loose from the
hull inside. I see no reason why this cannot be fixed quickly and I'd
have perfect confidence in such a fix. He seems to have problems with
getting the part that has torn loose to be pressed against the hull
but that is no problem, simply a matter of pressure X area. Put a
large inner tube in the boat and inflate it to press the part against
the inner hull. The inner tube will conform to whatever it is
pressing against.
I bet that where it is torn loose is so rough that even a secondary
bond will be as strong as a primary one.
You can get your epoxy in any viscosity you like, put it in one of
those plastic sprayers used to spray insecticide onto bushes and use
the thin metal wand to spray it in there.
Now, get that boat outa the Keys or at least outa the boat yard. For
$500/wk you haul her all the way up here to N. FL and save money and
put her in a storage lot and fix her there. Live in a tent at a
travel trailer park or move from State Park to State Park till you can
move back aboard. Embrace the castaway lifestyle.
Skip, you got screwed but lets get some optimism back here and get
this thing done. You wanted adventure, you got it, not what you
planned but you sure got a good story. If your bad heart didnt give
up when this happed, your prob alright. Plus, riding bikes for
transport has gotta be good for you. Re-arrange yer thinking when
fixing her, settle for strong but looks like hell over finely done.
Resale value is never a reall issue for sailboats and you shouldnt
care about that now. Is your standing rigging really that messed up?
Do you really need a car in the Keys? Most places will deliver stuff
and you have bikes. Consider a scooter as if you were college kids.
Not much I can do from way up here in Tallahassee but when you decide
how to fix her I'll chip in a couple gals of epoxy as a tribute to
stubborn optimism. I'll be in the Keys sometime in March and if
you're still there I'll drop by and say Hi.
Anybody else have any good suggestions for strong quick fixes?

Right on Frogwatch!

Fix the rudder and motor it to Indiantown. They have even got a camp
ground on site. Gotta be cheaper than the Keys.

http://www.indiantownmarina.com/

Capt Bill:

Thanks, you answered a question I had about my boat. I wanted to know
the cost of putting her on the hard at Indiantown if I sail her down
there.
However, $450/month for a slip, MY GOD THATS HIGH. I thought I was
getting screwed here at $205/month. I can get a slip at St. Marks, FL
on fresh water for less than $150/month.

For the good of mankind, and to keep me out of jail ... I hope I never
visit the $500 per week marina. Because if I do ..

When the jerk who owns the place gets done fixing everything I break, steal,
sabotage .. he will need $500 per day just to go back into business.


I think I would start with the "leachfield flush" if he has a septic system.
A little added bonus for his septic .. buy the time he has the contractor
there getting it fixed, and also spending a fortune I will be far far away.

Now, if this is city sewer, well then it is "pipe time" .. Nothing like
digging up the **** pipe to ruin the business owner's day.

Another fun thing to do for people like this is to invite a guest into the
restroom for the night. Not a two legged guest .. oh nooooo. A nasty
dirty, will probably take the health department weeks to recertify guest.

======
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 14, 4:42 pm, "capt.bill11" wrote:
On Feb 14, 5:31 pm, "Frogwatch" wrote:



I am not sure I really understand what is broken on her but it seems
to be an issue of access to an area that has broken loose from the
hull inside. I see no reason why this cannot be fixed quickly and I'd
have perfect confidence in such a fix. He seems to have problems with
getting the part that has torn loose to be pressed against the hull
but that is no problem, simply a matter of pressure X area. Put a
large inner tube in the boat and inflate it to press the part against
the inner hull. The inner tube will conform to whatever it is
pressing against.
I bet that where it is torn loose is so rough that even a secondary
bond will be as strong as a primary one.
You can get your epoxy in any viscosity you like, put it in one of
those plastic sprayers used to spray insecticide onto bushes and use
the thin metal wand to spray it in there.
Now, get that boat outa the Keys or at least outa the boat yard. For
$500/wk you haul her all the way up here to N. FL and save money and
put her in a storage lot and fix her there. Live in a tent at a
travel trailer park or move from State Park to State Park till you can
move back aboard. Embrace the castaway lifestyle.
Skip, you got screwed but lets get some optimism back here and get
this thing done. You wanted adventure, you got it, not what you
planned but you sure got a good story. If your bad heart didnt give
up when this happed, your prob alright. Plus, riding bikes for
transport has gotta be good for you. Re-arrange yer thinking when
fixing her, settle for strong but looks like hell over finely done.
Resale value is never a reall issue for sailboats and you shouldnt
care about that now. Is your standing rigging really that messed up?
Do you really need a car in the Keys? Most places will deliver stuff
and you have bikes. Consider a scooter as if you were college kids.
Not much I can do from way up here in Tallahassee but when you decide
how to fix her I'll chip in a couple gals of epoxy as a tribute to
stubborn optimism. I'll be in the Keys sometime in March and if
you're still there I'll drop by and say Hi.
Anybody else have any good suggestions for strong quick fixes?

Right on Frogwatch!

Fix the rudder and motor it to Indiantown. They have even got a camp
ground on site. Gotta be cheaper than the Keys.

http://www.indiantownmarina.com/

Capt Bill:

Thanks, you answered a question I had about my boat. I wanted to know
the cost of putting her on the hard at Indiantown if I sail her down
there.
However, $450/month for a slip, MY GOD THATS HIGH. I thought I was
getting screwed here at $205/month. I can get a slip at St. Marks, FL
on fresh water for less than $150/month.

In article MyMAh.6408$2%1.4335@trndny02,
NE Sailboat wrote:
For the good of mankind, and to keep me out of jail ... I hope I never
visit the $500 per week marina. Because if I do ..

When the jerk who owns the place gets done fixing everything I break, steal,
sabotage .. he will need $500 per day just to go back into business.

I once paid $ 90 for one day ($ 3 per foot).

http://www.ldlcasino.com/staying/accommodations/

ron
--
Ron Roberts or Phone (512) 219-0043
Usenet invented "no controlling legal authority."

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:03:08 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

For the good of mankind, and to keep me out of jail ... I hope I never
visit the $500 per week marina. Because if I do ..

You obviously have *no* idea what water front property in the Keys is
worth , or how much it costs to carry it.

All of us boaters are lucky that it has not yet been converted to
condos or a resort.

You don't know what the f...k I know about waterfront property so don't
assume what you don't know.


As for the "lucky that it has .." bull****.

If we boaters would get off our collective asses and use some political
muscle maybe the government which is taking our money and propping up the
thieves who are living, and running businesses there would not get away with
the crap they are doing.

If the government is going to take our taxes, but then let greed take away
our marinas, or block us from the water .. why are we paying the taxes?

I swear; I am so sick of this country. I've never seen this nation so
F,,ked up. We are building power plants for Arabs who hate us, yet an
American in his sailboat runs aground and he is nothing but a target for an
unscrupulous marina?

Why are Americans dying in Iraq? For freedom? The American way? To make
the world a better place?

Well,,, what about right here. What about in the Florida Keys?

================================================== ===





"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:03:08 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

For the good of mankind, and to keep me out of jail ... I hope I never
visit the $500 per week marina. Because if I do ..

You obviously have *no* idea what water front property in the Keys is
worth , or how much it costs to carry it.

All of us boaters are lucky that it has not yet been converted to
condos or a resort.

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:03:08 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

For the good of mankind, and to keep me out of jail ... I hope I never
visit the $500 per week marina. Because if I do ..

Where I am, $500 a week is cheap.

"Rick B." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:03:08 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

For the good of mankind, and to keep me out of jail ... I hope I never
visit the $500 per week marina. Because if I do ..

Where I am, $500 a week is cheap.

All well and good, but $2000 per month on the hard just for workspace is
outrageous.

Well Rick ,, since you want to brag about the cost of being on the hard ..
where on the hard are you?

What marina? What harbor? What city? Tell us all the specifics. Come on
Rick,, you can tell us. We won't tell anyone.


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"Rick B." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:03:08 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

For the good of mankind, and to keep me out of jail ... I hope I never
visit the $500 per week marina. Because if I do ..

Where I am, $500 a week is cheap.