"Jack Dale" wrote in message
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I prefer a head along the center line. A little tighter is better
than too much room. Leg space is also great.

This comes from too many attempts to get the foul weather pants, and
undergarments down and back up in the head in rough conditions.

Make sure the raw water pick up is located as close as possible to the
bottom of the hull. Too many boats have a head that can only be used
on one tack. Heaving -to to use the head is a pain.

Jack

I too have always thought that centerline orientation is best for the head.
Unfortunately, I've never seen a smaller-to-moderately sized boat where this
works. Of course, one could always make the head the focal point of the
boat, but most visitors would find it odd.

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

I too have always thought that centerline orientation is best for the
head. Unfortunately, I've never seen a smaller-to-moderately sized boat
where this works. Of course, one could always make the head the focal
point of the boat, but most visitors would find it odd.

I should note that I've seen more than one or two boats that had the head
mounted fore-and-aft, centerline, in the bow. While this takes great
advantage of space, I shudder to think of using that head underway in any
kind of chop.

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message news:KpKdnY7Qx-
I should note that I've seen more than one or two boats that had
the head mounted fore-and-aft, centerline, in the bow. While
this takes great advantage of space, I shudder to think of using
that head underway in any kind of chop.

Ah. I can tell you all about that. Got airborne when butting
through the wake of a high speed ferry. Landed off centre.
Pedestal broke off at the base . . . need I say more?

Four stitches.

The real answer is two heads, one each side of the vessel, each
set athwartships. For serious work, you can then inhabit the
downhill one, and rest in peace with your back against the
bulkhead. Much better than being pitched nose forward from the
uphill one, pants around your ankles . . . need I say more?

Broken nose and dignity.
--
JimB
http://www.jimbaerselman.f2s.com/
Comparing cruise areas within Greece and N Spain

"JimB" wrote in message
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message news:KpKdnY7Qx-
I should note that I've seen more than one or two boats that had the head
mounted fore-and-aft, centerline, in the bow. While this takes great
advantage of space, I shudder to think of using that head underway in any
kind of chop.

Ah. I can tell you all about that. Got airborne when butting through the
wake of a high speed ferry. Landed off centre. Pedestal broke off at the
base . . . need I say more?

Four stitches.

The real answer is two heads, one each side of the vessel, each set
athwartships. For serious work, you can then inhabit the downhill one, and
rest in peace with your back against the bulkhead. Much better than being
pitched nose forward from the uphill one, pants around your ankles . . .
need I say more?

Broken nose and dignity.
--
JimB
http://www.jimbaerselman.f2s.com/
Comparing cruise areas within Greece and N Spain


Say no more. This brings to mind my ultimate head installation idea: The
Gimballed Head. I've never seen it done, and it would have significant
problems to overcome for hose connections, but it could make for a very
peaceful "pause that refreshes."

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"JimB" wrote in message
...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message news:KpKdnY7Qx-
I should note that I've seen more than one or two boats that had the
head mounted fore-and-aft, centerline, in the bow. While this takes
great advantage of space, I shudder to think of using that head underway
in any kind of chop.

Ah. I can tell you all about that. Got airborne when butting through the
wake of a high speed ferry. Landed off centre. Pedestal broke off at the
base . . . need I say more?

Four stitches.

The real answer is two heads, one each side of the vessel, each set
athwartships. For serious work, you can then inhabit the downhill one,
and rest in peace with your back against the bulkhead. Much better than
being pitched nose forward from the uphill one, pants around your ankles
. . . need I say more?

Broken nose and dignity.
--
JimB
http://www.jimbaerselman.f2s.com/
Comparing cruise areas within Greece and N Spain


Say no more. This brings to mind my ultimate head installation idea: The
Gimballed Head. I've never seen it done, and it would have significant
problems to overcome for hose connections, but it could make for a very
peaceful "pause that refreshes."

Just don't try to use it when at the dock without locking down the head. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JimB" wrote
Ah. I can tell you all about that. Got airborne when butting through the
wake of a high speed ferry. Landed off centre. Pedestal broke off at the
base . . . need I say more?

Four stitches.


I bet the embarassment hurt even worse.

The real answer is two heads, one each side of the vessel, each set
athwartships. For serious work, you can then inhabit the downhill one, and
rest in peace with your back against the bulkhead. Much better than being
pitched nose forward from the uphill one, pants around your ankles . . .
need I say more?

Broken nose and dignity.
--

Makes heaving-to for a potty break sound very sensible! Not
an option when racing though, it's bad enough when you are
taking a desperately needed break from the spinnaker and the
skipper keeps yelling 'Hurry up, dammit!'


KLC Lewis wrote:
Say no more. This brings to mind my ultimate head installation idea: The
Gimballed Head. I've never seen it done, and it would have significant
problems to overcome for hose connections, but it could make for a very
peaceful "pause that refreshes."


It would have to be fairly well aft, near the center of
rotation of the hull, and you'd want it lockable at a
selected angle. Otherwise the contents of the potty would
slosh out... more embarassment...

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .

KLC Lewis wrote:
Say no more. This brings to mind my ultimate head installation idea: The
Gimballed Head. I've never seen it done, and it would have significant
problems to overcome for hose connections, but it could make for a very
peaceful "pause that refreshes."

It would have to be fairly well aft, near the center of rotation of the
hull, and you'd want it lockable at a selected angle. Otherwise the
contents of the potty would slosh out... more embarassment...

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



Yeah...very embarassing indeed. lol And again, the best possible location
for the perfect head (gimballed, of course) would be on the centerline right
smack dab in the middle of the pivot point -- which is usually right in the
middle of the saloon and/or galley area. Perhaps hidden under the dinette
table, which would hoist up to the overhead for those private moments? Think
of the added living and storage space if we don't have to dedicate a whole
compartment to that bucket! And it could maybe even double as a compost bin
for our produce trimmings and coffee grounds.

MMMMmmmmmmmm...I can smell it now. Nearly as good as being on the Mayflower.

"KLC Lewis" wrote in
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MMMMmmmmmmmm...I can smell it now. Nearly as good as being on the
Mayflower.




See? I told ya....OVER THE LEE HANDRAIL! Problem solves itself...(c;



Larry
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If we eliminate religion, will they stop murdering each other?

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:58:49 -0600, KLC Lewis wrote:

I too have always thought that centerline orientation is best for the head.
Unfortunately, I've never seen a smaller-to-moderately sized boat where this
works. Of course, one could always make the head the focal point of the
boat, but most visitors would find it odd.

In many smaller sailboats, the V-berth is practically unusable anyway, so
why not just make it into a head/lazarette compartment? Notable examples
would be the Morse Bristol Channel Cutter, and a whole bunch of trailer
sailors (which have it under the middle of the V-berth).

Matt O.

Matt O'Toole wrote:

In many smaller sailboats, the V-berth is practically unusable anyway, so
why not just make it into a head/lazarette compartment? Notable examples
would be the Morse Bristol Channel Cutter, and a whole bunch of trailer
sailors (which have it under the middle of the V-berth).

Matt O.


Sounds like my Sandpiper 565 with an MSD c/w deck pumpout.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/Hpim0171.jpg