Ok, having filled the diesel stepvan with $80, again, today, I've
completed the research phase and cost/benefit analysis phase. I can now
justify to convert one of my land vehicles, my 1989 Chevy 6.2L V-8 diesel
stepvan to run on used oil from the local restaurants I've already been
schmoozing and grooming to cooperate. I've also decided the best of the
conversions looks like it will go to Frybrid (www.frybrid.com) out in
Seattle. I simply like the look of their heat transfer system to bring
the oil up to temperature and their microprocessor-controlled environment
much better than the others I've researched.....

I consider this ontopic for r.b.c because this will make a great testbed
to see if it would make MARINE diesel conversions on small cruisers and
powerboats functional.....We'll see.

If you haven't perused the webpages, they are on:
http://www.frybrid.com/

I was going to convert the Mercedes 220D sedan, but can't justify the
$2000 as it uses so little fuel, anyways. The Chevy beast is another
matter, entirely. Frybrid already has a successful Chevy V-8 diesel
Suburban installed and running great:
http://www.frybrid.com/sub.htm

There's lots more room for conversion equipment and tankage in the
stepvan beast than that Suburban has. My truck mechanic will install it
with great interest in doing other conversions.

There's already 85 gallons of used vegetable oil quietly settling in 5
gallon plastic containers in my storage shed to precipitate the food out
of. I'll be ready for "fueling" when it happens.....(c;

Those marina restaurants might take on a more significant importance in
the near future. Every Hardee's burger joint uses 7 gallons per
DAY...fuel going to waste! I can easily collect 500 gallons/month close
to home.

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Check gas prices again, two weeks ago 73.00 to fill up, Sunday 41.00, WTF?


Larry wrote:
Ok, having filled the diesel stepvan with $80, again, today, I've
completed the research phase and cost/benefit analysis phase. I can now
justify to convert one of my land vehicles, my 1989 Chevy 6.2L V-8 diesel
stepvan to run on used oil from the local restaurants I've already been
schmoozing and grooming to cooperate. I've also decided the best of the
conversions looks like it will go to Frybrid (www.frybrid.com) out in
Seattle. I simply like the look of their heat transfer system to bring
the oil up to temperature and their microprocessor-controlled environment
much better than the others I've researched.....

I consider this ontopic for r.b.c because this will make a great testbed
to see if it would make MARINE diesel conversions on small cruisers and
powerboats functional.....We'll see.

If you haven't perused the webpages, they are on:
http://www.frybrid.com/

I was going to convert the Mercedes 220D sedan, but can't justify the
$2000 as it uses so little fuel, anyways. The Chevy beast is another
matter, entirely. Frybrid already has a successful Chevy V-8 diesel
Suburban installed and running great:
http://www.frybrid.com/sub.htm

There's lots more room for conversion equipment and tankage in the
stepvan beast than that Suburban has. My truck mechanic will install it
with great interest in doing other conversions.

There's already 85 gallons of used vegetable oil quietly settling in 5
gallon plastic containers in my storage shed to precipitate the food out
of. I'll be ready for "fueling" when it happens.....(c;

Those marina restaurants might take on a more significant importance in
the near future. Every Hardee's burger joint uses 7 gallons per
DAY...fuel going to waste! I can easily collect 500 gallons/month close
to home.

Jim Douglas wrote in
news:IR2Xg.4695$2l5.1967@trnddc07:

Check gas prices again, two weeks ago 73.00 to fill up, Sunday 41.00,
WTF?



Temporary overstock until the public gets "used to" $2.50/gallon, then it
will rise again, exponentially, until they find the next plateau of no-
tolerance and stay home in droves.

It has to happen as long as the Federal Reserve Bankers keep producing a
currency that gets more and more worthless because the Illuminati bankers
keep printing more and more money with absolutely nothing but a promise to
back it up.

It's not the oil companies, who've shown amazing restraint. It's all about
the value of the worlds currencies controlled by the Illuminati
bankers....an inevitable conclusion to the Congress allowing them to print
our money.

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Oil companies have said cost of fuel will go back up for the winter. Id
guess immediately following the Nov elections.
Gotta look after thier interests, don't ya know?
MMC
"Jim Douglas" wrote in message
news:IR2Xg.4695$2l5.1967@trnddc07...
Check gas prices again, two weeks ago 73.00 to fill up, Sunday 41.00, WTF?


Larry wrote:
Ok, having filled the diesel stepvan with $80, again, today, I've
completed the research phase and cost/benefit analysis phase. I can now
justify to convert one of my land vehicles, my 1989 Chevy 6.2L V-8 diesel
stepvan to run on used oil from the local restaurants I've already been
schmoozing and grooming to cooperate. I've also decided the best of the
conversions looks like it will go to Frybrid (www.frybrid.com) out in
Seattle. I simply like the look of their heat transfer system to bring
the oil up to temperature and their microprocessor-controlled environment
much better than the others I've researched.....

I consider this ontopic for r.b.c because this will make a great testbed
to see if it would make MARINE diesel conversions on small cruisers and
powerboats functional.....We'll see.

If you haven't perused the webpages, they are on:
http://www.frybrid.com/

I was going to convert the Mercedes 220D sedan, but can't justify the
$2000 as it uses so little fuel, anyways. The Chevy beast is another
matter, entirely. Frybrid already has a successful Chevy V-8 diesel
Suburban installed and running great:
http://www.frybrid.com/sub.htm

There's lots more room for conversion equipment and tankage in the
stepvan beast than that Suburban has. My truck mechanic will install it
with great interest in doing other conversions.

There's already 85 gallons of used vegetable oil quietly settling in 5
gallon plastic containers in my storage shed to precipitate the food out
of. I'll be ready for "fueling" when it happens.....(c;

Those marina restaurants might take on a more significant importance in
the near future. Every Hardee's burger joint uses 7 gallons per
DAY...fuel going to waste! I can easily collect 500 gallons/month close
to home.

"MMC" wrote in news:J36Xg.15387$YO.8873
@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:

Oil companies have said cost of fuel will go back up for the winter. Id
guess immediately following the Nov elections.
Gotta look after thier interests, don't ya know?


Diesel fuel dipped, FINALLY, to about the same price as the highest grade
of gas, $US2.44/US Gallon in Charleston, SC when I filled up the truck,
today. All the while I was watching my income flying out the window, I was
saying, "Frybrid...Frybrid...Frybrid", in my mind.



--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Larry wrote:
"MMC" wrote in news:J36Xg.15387$YO.8873
@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:

Oil companies have said cost of fuel will go back up for the winter. Id
guess immediately following the Nov elections.
Gotta look after thier interests, don't ya know?


Diesel fuel dipped, FINALLY, to about the same price as the highest grade
of gas, $US2.44/US Gallon in Charleston, SC when I filled up the truck,
today. All the while I was watching my income flying out the window, I was
saying, "Frybrid...Frybrid...Frybrid", in my mind.

Just out of curiosity, what is the breakeven point for you in the
conversion (how many gallons [it appears to be about 1k] - how many
miles - how long in calendar time)?

And, if you were to do it on other vehicles, are the installations
unique - that is, could they be transferred, like a battery pulse
conditioner, e.g., to other vehicles, later?

L8R

Skip, floating, blissfully (well, the floating part - the allergies
still are troublesome) while waiting for hull shape stability prior to
final adjustments on the drive line

"Skip Gundlach" wrote in
ups.com:

Just out of curiosity, what is the breakeven point for you in the
conversion (how many gallons [it appears to be about 1k] - how many
miles - how long in calendar time)?

I'm burning about $300/month, mostly in the truck. So, to recover the
$2600 will take less than a year, if you don't count my time and a few
filter cartridges it's going to consume filtering out the tiny bits that
won't settle out in storage.

There's also got to be some value to that smirk I'll wear passing the
uninformed every time I drive it. That's hard to put a value on. It'll
still use 2-5 gallons per month of diesel in the purging process, I
figure.


And, if you were to do it on other vehicles, are the installations
unique - that is, could they be transferred, like a battery pulse
conditioner, e.g., to other vehicles, later?



The only part unique would be the custom made, oil-heating fuel tank that
will fit between the driveshaft and frame of the stepvan. I'm way under
gross weight, so am planning on 40-50 gallons for it. The tanks are all
custom made for the applications. The tank for a Mercedes sedan fits
inside the trunk up against the back seat wall, for instance. Of course,
none of the hoses would transfer. There's tons of room in front of the
engine under the hood behind the massive radiator in this van for the
heat exchanger, heated fuel filter and solenoid valves. This area is
also wide open to the bottom of the van where the heated oil lines will
fit up inside the huge frame members to keep them protected. We did a
little advanced planning when it was on the rack at the shop having its
broken motor mount replaced a few weeks ago....

I've wanted a stepvan for 30 years +. It's a handy toy even if you don't
run a business out of it like mine. Best $3500 I ever spent. I'll keep
it until I can't drive any more. If/when the GM engine/transmission
fails, there are many mount holes in the frame for DD, Cummins and other
diesel engines that are readily available. A plate behind the engine
cover in the cab removes to go to a floor shifter if you like. I had
also considered a smaller diesel like a 4-cyl Isuzu or Kubota, but
powering with veggie oil eliminates that need. I can keep the V-8 power
at almost no cost this way.

Just the idea of screwing the Jahbulons out of fueling this beast makes
me smile.....(c;....fitting payback for screwing us out of ELECTRIC CARS.

MMC wrote:
Oil companies have said cost of fuel will go back up for the winter. Id
guess immediately following the Nov elections.
Gotta look after thier interests, don't ya know?
MMC


Ya got that right. So did Jim and Larry.

Oil at $57/barrel today. CNBC described OPEC as trying to " build a
floor" under the decreasing crude prices. If this is a "free market"
why can OPEC keep the price of crude from going below $55? Looks like
the good ole boys are out making some good news for the administration.

Bob