Same idea, more common - manhole covers. Available from a street near
you...
Sal's Dad

wrote in message
oups.com...
If you can find them locally, a couple of scrap trainwheels work well
too. ....and they have a handy hole in the middle to run your chain
through.

Matt

Terry K wrote:
How big a boat?

An engine from a T-bird might just do. All it needs is a trip through
the car wash to get the oil and crud out of it. No big deal.

I used a truck engine to moor my SC22 for years, and the local marina
guy dropped a concrete mooring he cast in his own yard into my
beachfront for 250 bucks, delivered. He told me it needed to cure on
land for a couple of weeks to satisfy the enviromaniacs.

Terry K

RE. getting the train wheels "out there" .

When we set up my dad's mooring, (4 trainwheels) we simply sued the
anchor roller on his Bayfield 23 with a 2 part prushase led to a winch.
We'd pick up the wheels 1 by one, take them out tot he mooring aite
and lower them to the bottom..

Matt


Sal's Dad wrote:
Same idea, more common - manhole covers. Available from a street near
you...
Sal's Dad

wrote in message
oups.com...
If you can find them locally, a couple of scrap trainwheels work well
too. ....and they have a handy hole in the middle to run your chain
through.

Matt

Terry K wrote:
How big a boat?

An engine from a T-bird might just do. All it needs is a trip through
the car wash to get the oil and crud out of it. No big deal.

I used a truck engine to moor my SC22 for years, and the local marina
guy dropped a concrete mooring he cast in his own yard into my
beachfront for 250 bucks, delivered. He told me it needed to cure on
land for a couple of weeks to satisfy the enviromaniacs.

Terry K

On 5 Jun 2006 05:33:24 -0700, wrote:

When we set up my dad's mooring, (4 trainwheels) we simply sued the
anchor roller on his Bayfield 23 with a 2 part prushase led to a winch.
We'd pick up the wheels 1 by one, take them out tot he mooring aite
and lower them to the bottom..

Interesting approach.

Any idea how much they weighed?

Did you lower each one with an attached chain and then shackel all of
the chains together at the end?

wrote:
RE. getting the train wheels "out there" .

When we set up my dad's mooring, (4 trainwheels) we simply sued the
anchor roller on his Bayfield 23 with a 2 part prushase led to a winch.
We'd pick up the wheels 1 by one, take them out tot he mooring aite
and lower them to the bottom..

Matt


Sal's Dad wrote:

Same idea, more common - manhole covers. Available from a street near
you...
Sal's Dad

wrote in message
groups.com...

If you can find them locally, a couple of scrap trainwheels work well
too. ....and they have a handy hole in the middle to run your chain
through.

Matt

Terry K wrote:

How big a boat?

An engine from a T-bird might just do. All it needs is a trip through
the car wash to get the oil and crud out of it. No big deal.

I used a truck engine to moor my SC22 for years, and the local marina
guy dropped a concrete mooring he cast in his own yard into my
beachfront for 250 bucks, delivered. He told me it needed to cure on
land for a couple of weeks to satisfy the enviromaniacs.

Terry K



Any trainwheels available in the Nova Scotia area ?

Thank you,
Courtney

On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 02:33:32 -0700, Terry K wrote:

He told me it needed to cure on land for a couple
of weeks to satisfy the enviromaniacs.

How dare he be environmentally responsible. Probably a potential
terrorist too. Someone phone the NSA...oh wait, they're already
listening...nevermind

The 3.8 litre V6 in my runabout weighs 800 lbs ... so find an old
engine that size or larger and yer good to go, er, anchor.

a fifteen foot tall statue of elvis, especially if it had his guitar
sticking out on both sides.

on a serious note, i thought that most moorings were poured concrete,
poured right on the spot using whatever kind of form you can make/find.
concrete cures just fine under water once it's been poured, and i'm
sure concrete is easier to deal than a fifteen foot tall statue of
elvis.

Courtney Thomas wrote:
I want to install a fixed mooring this summer and see that for example
mushroom anchors are expensive.

The environment is... Atlantic salt water, in a fairly well protected
cove, with 6' tides, in about 10-15' of water, virtually no traffic and
a spit serving as immediate breakwater.

Alternative suggestions to a mushroom would be appreciated.

Courtney

purple_stars wrote:
a fifteen foot tall statue of elvis, especially if it had his guitar
sticking out on both sides.

on a serious note, i thought that most moorings were poured concrete,
poured right on the spot using whatever kind of form you can make/find.
concrete cures just fine under water once it's been poured, and i'm
sure concrete is easier to deal than a fifteen foot tall statue of
elvis.

Courtney Thomas wrote:

I want to install a fixed mooring this summer and see that for example
mushroom anchors are expensive.

The environment is... Atlantic salt water, in a fairly well protected
cove, with 6' tides, in about 10-15' of water, virtually no traffic and
a spit serving as immediate breakwater.

Alternative suggestions to a mushroom would be appreciated.

Courtney


My understanding is that concrete loses a lot of it's 'weight' in water,
whereas steel/iron do not and given the recent hurricane rash I'd prefer
all I can reasonably get. Plus I'm not in an area catering to such
services as installing moorings, for example.

Gratefully,
Courtney

On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:31:46 GMT, Courtney Thomas wrote:



Courtney Thomas wrote:

I want to install a fixed mooring this summer and see that for example
mushroom anchors are expensive.

The environment is... Atlantic salt water, in a fairly well protected
cove, with 6' tides, in about 10-15' of water, virtually no traffic and
a spit serving as immediate breakwater.

Alternative suggestions to a mushroom would be appreciated.

Courtney


My understanding is that concrete loses a lot of it's 'weight' in water,
whereas steel/iron do not and given the recent hurricane rash I'd prefer
all I can reasonably get. Plus I'm not in an area catering to such
services as installing moorings, for example.

Gratefully,
Courtney

correct on the "losing it's weight" in water ...

sal****er is 64 lbs per cu ft (displaces 64 lbs per cu ft)

per my pocket ref on material weights (any typos are mine)

cast iron 450 lb/cu ft

portland cement 100 lb/cu ft
mortar cement 135 lb/cu ft
gravel concrete 150 lb/cu ft
limestone w/Portland concrete 148 lb/cu ft

marble 160 lb/cu ft

so, water will displace 64 lbs of an item, so cast iron has a bottom
weight in salt water of 386 lbs per cu/ft

the different cement mixes are 36 to 86 lbs per cu ft when in the
water

I've seen both cement and marble slab moorings in this area ... in
blocks (not formed to dig) and while they tend to sink in over time
depending on bottom composition. I've also seen them move to shore
during a storm.

I personally wouldn't use a block without adding a mushroom to the
works ... the block would prevent the mushroom from lifting, the
mushroom would keep the block from moving.

note: I am not a ground tackle expert ... I have used the weight
formulas to determine lift bag requirements or drums to perform uw
lifts and recovery.


- Ed

--
refillable drysuit talc bag $10.95 ppd
http://www.underwaterusa.com

On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:31:46 GMT, Courtney Thomas
wrote:

My understanding is that concrete loses a lot of it's 'weight' in water,
whereas steel/iron do not and given the recent hurricane rash I'd prefer
all I can reasonably get. Plus I'm not in an area catering to such
services as installing moorings, for example.

Steel has a higher density than concrete so it takes more concrete to
make a proper mooring. That said, concrete mooring blocks are quite
common and relatively cheap. You only need about 6 cubic feet to make
a 2,000 lb block which is plenty of weight even allowing for the lower
density. Any concrete plant or competent "do it yourselfer" could
make one for you at low cost. Some concrete plants make them up out
of their excess production and may have a few laying around. Typically
a loop of 3/4 inch chain or wire rope is cast into the block as an
anchor point.

Unless you own a floating work barge with hoist, you will need
professional assistance to transport the block and plant it.