"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote


I know what is involved with sailing. Married a good sailors
daughter and
used to windsurf. But too many "sailors" figure they have the
right of way
as they have a sailboat. I have had "sailors" do a 90 degree
in front of me
when lifting the sails and the iron sail is still running, and
then yell at
me. They would yell even louder if I collided with them and
when they had
to pay enormous sums of money to me.


Is it really *that* hard to turn a steering wheel, Bill? Do you
have wimpy limp wrists?

SBV




Nope, but you expect other boaters to also be aware of their surroundings.
And not make unexpected course changes. You ignore all other boats around
you. You remind me of the sailor who decides to turn with no signal and
ends up paying several thousand dollars to repair my F-I-L's sailboat.

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote

I carry a paddle on my powerboat, should I not
have right of way over a sailboat?

No, you should hand the paddle over to your Mom and bend over.

SV



I see you are also into S&M as well as idiocy.

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote
Not all sailors are familiar enough with the collision
regulations either.
In your case, sounds like you were overtaking him. You are the
'giveway
boat'. That said, he has a responsibility to give you ample
time to
avoid a collision.

Well, he did, didn't he? Was there a collision?

SV



Barely. Because I was not drunk like most sailors.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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Depends on the question. Another question for you. Power boat is going
along at 10 knots passing a sailboat. Sailboat takes a 90 degree tack
into the side of the powerboat. Who is at fault?

Well, let's see how this works. You're close enough to for it to be able to
tack into the side of your boat. What would the maritime arbitration panel
say if it went to them? If you don't know what I'm talking about, google it.

John Cairns

ENUFF AWREDDY!!!!!!

Capt. JG wrote:
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"Scotty" wrote in message
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Is it really *that* hard to turn a steering wheel, Bill? Do you
have wimpy limp wrists?

SBV




Nope, but you expect other boaters to also be aware of their surroundings.
And not make unexpected course changes. You ignore all other boats around
you. You remind me of the sailor who decides to turn with no signal and
ends up paying several thousand dollars to repair my F-I-L's sailboat.


Signalling? Do you stick your arm out when you want to make a right or a
left? Oh wait, I know, you flick your red light when you want to go left and
your green one when you want to go right. Never mind. I get it.



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DSK wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:

I may get a minority of the blame


Nah, majority.

... but he CAN NOT CHANGE DIRECTION IN FRONT OF THE OVERTAKING BOAT!
He gets the majority of the fault.


Please cite the ColReg which says so.

DSK

Rule 17

Action by Stand-on Vessel

(a)(i) Where one of two vessels is to keep out of the way, the other
shall keep her course and speed.

Gary

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Scotty" wrote in message
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Is it really *that* hard to turn a steering wheel, Bill? Do you
have wimpy limp wrists?

SBV




Nope, but you expect other boaters to also be aware of their surroundings.
And not make unexpected course changes. You ignore all other boats around
you. You remind me of the sailor who decides to turn with no signal and
ends up paying several thousand dollars to repair my F-I-L's sailboat.

Signalling? Do you stick your arm out when you want to make a right or a
left? Oh wait, I know, you flick your red light when you want to go left and
your green one when you want to go right. Never mind. I get it.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

You are always wrong.

If I agree, does that still work?

Not too bright are you?

Depends on the question. Another question for you. Power boat is going
along at 10 knots passing a sailboat. Sailboat takes a 90 degree tack
into the side of the powerboat. Who is at fault?

Please don't switch from MPH to KTS. It's just too confusing!

Answer: PWCs are always at fault. They can't help it, they were built that
way.

Oh, you want a serious answer..

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote
Not all sailors are familiar enough with the collision
regulations either.
In your case, sounds like you were overtaking him. You are the
'giveway
boat'. That said, he has a responsibility to give you ample
time to
avoid a collision.

Well, he did, didn't he? Was there a collision?

SV



Barely. Because I was not drunk like most sailors.

It might help. Give it a try.

Bill McKee wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
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Bill McKee wrote:
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Answer my questions if you can. And refer to the Colregs as to why that
sailboater with the engine running is a sailboat.
Rule 3 (c) The term “sailing vessel” means any vessel under sail provided
that propelling machinery, if fitted, is not being used.

It says "being used" not "running." Big difference. And its specifically
mentions "propelling machinery" implying the engine must be used for
propelling. Would you claim that an engine being used for ballast makes
it a powerboat?

Further, if you're on another boat and see an exhaust from a sailboat that
otherwise appears to be sailing, are you free to treat it as a powerboat?
Of course not, that might simply be a genset.

Sorry Bill, its pretty clear you don't really understand the rules.

Bzzt: You are wrong.
Bzzt: You are wrong. And its pretty clear you're a dangerous jackass
who doesn't belong on the water. Anyone who claims its common and
proper to pass within 15 feet of boats doing 25 MPH shouldn't be out
there.