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"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message ... True on a powerboat, not for sail. Proper place to fly the ensign is off of the luff of the mainsail. Next best place is off the backstay as per your original post. Going up the backstay isn't a big deal. Doug You are wrong. Where is one to put the flag when at anchor or when motoring? And, if the flag is flown off the mainsail it should be two-thirds of the way up the leech. Fifteen feet doesn't quite get it. It is wrong to fly the flag off the backstay because the angle is incorrect and the flag does not display properly. Then there is the problem of courtesy flags which are shown off the starboard spreader. They should be above the ensign as a courtesy. A flagstaff on the stern if the proper way to display the flag on modern sloops. CN |
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Capt. NealŽ wrote:
"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message ... True on a powerboat, not for sail. Proper place to fly the ensign is off of the luff of the mainsail. Next best place is off the backstay as per your original post. Going up the backstay isn't a big deal. Doug You are wrong. Where is one to put the flag when at anchor or when motoring? And, if the flag is flown off the mainsail it should be two-thirds of the way up the leech. Fifteen feet doesn't quite get it. It is wrong to fly the flag off the backstay because the angle is incorrect and the flag does not display properly. Then there is the problem of courtesy flags which are shown off the starboard spreader. They should be above the ensign as a courtesy. A flagstaff on the stern if the proper way to display the flag on modern sloops. CN Proper is not proper if it is not functional. Besides, what about the term stern staff don't you understand? CN Flagstaff or stern staff? It looks like neallie cannot even agree with himself. JR |
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"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: "Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message ... True on a powerboat, not for sail. Proper place to fly the ensign is off of the luff of the mainsail. Next best place is off the backstay as per your original post. Going up the backstay isn't a big deal. Doug You are wrong. Where is one to put the flag when at anchor or when motoring? And, if the flag is flown off the mainsail it should be two-thirds of the way up the leech. Fifteen feet doesn't quite get it. It is wrong to fly the flag off the backstay because the angle is incorrect and the flag does not display properly. Then there is the problem of courtesy flags which are shown off the starboard spreader. They should be above the ensign as a courtesy. A flagstaff on the stern if the proper way to display the flag on modern sloops. CN Proper is not proper if it is not functional. Besides, what about the term stern staff don't you understand? CN Flagstaff or stern staff? It looks like neallie cannot even agree with himself. JR A flag staff at the stern = a stern staff. Keep grasping at those straws, why don't you. CN |
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Capt. NealŽ wrote:
"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: "Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message ... True on a powerboat, not for sail. Proper place to fly the ensign is off of the luff of the mainsail. Next best place is off the backstay as per your original post. Going up the backstay isn't a big deal. Doug You are wrong. Where is one to put the flag when at anchor or when motoring? And, if the flag is flown off the mainsail it should be two-thirds of the way up the leech. Fifteen feet doesn't quite get it. It is wrong to fly the flag off the backstay because the angle is incorrect and the flag does not display properly. Then there is the problem of courtesy flags which are shown off the starboard spreader. They should be above the ensign as a courtesy. A flagstaff on the stern if the proper way to display the flag on modern sloops. CN Proper is not proper if it is not functional. Besides, what about the term stern staff don't you understand? CN Flagstaff or stern staff? It looks like neallie cannot even agree with himself. JR A flag staff at the stern = a stern staff. Keep grasping at those straws, why don't you. CN I don't have to grasp at straws to show what an idiot you are. Just quote you. JR |
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"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message t... Capt. NealŽ wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: "Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message ... True on a powerboat, not for sail. Proper place to fly the ensign is off of the luff of the mainsail. Next best place is off the backstay as per your original post. Going up the backstay isn't a big deal. Doug You are wrong. Where is one to put the flag when at anchor or when motoring? And, if the flag is flown off the mainsail it should be two-thirds of the way up the leech. Fifteen feet doesn't quite get it. It is wrong to fly the flag off the backstay because the angle is incorrect and the flag does not display properly. Then there is the problem of courtesy flags which are shown off the starboard spreader. They should be above the ensign as a courtesy. A flagstaff on the stern if the proper way to display the flag on modern sloops. CN Proper is not proper if it is not functional. Besides, what about the term stern staff don't you understand? CN Flagstaff or stern staff? It looks like neallie cannot even agree with himself. JR A flag staff at the stern = a stern staff. Keep grasping at those straws, why don't you. CN I don't have to grasp at straws to show what an idiot you are. Just quote you. JR But, you should at least endeavor to make a modicum of sense when doing so. CN |
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Capt. NealŽ wrote:
"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message t... Capt. NealŽ wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: "Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message ... True on a powerboat, not for sail. Proper place to fly the ensign is off of the luff of the mainsail. Next best place is off the backstay as per your original post. Going up the backstay isn't a big deal. Doug You are wrong. Where is one to put the flag when at anchor or when motoring? And, if the flag is flown off the mainsail it should be two-thirds of the way up the leech. Fifteen feet doesn't quite get it. It is wrong to fly the flag off the backstay because the angle is incorrect and the flag does not display properly. Then there is the problem of courtesy flags which are shown off the starboard spreader. They should be above the ensign as a courtesy. A flagstaff on the stern if the proper way to display the flag on modern sloops. CN Proper is not proper if it is not functional. Besides, what about the term stern staff don't you understand? CN Flagstaff or stern staff? It looks like neallie cannot even agree with himself. JR A flag staff at the stern = a stern staff. Keep grasping at those straws, why don't you. CN I don't have to grasp at straws to show what an idiot you are. Just quote you. JR But, you should at least endeavor to make a modicum of sense when doing so. CN How can I and still quote you?? JR |
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"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message . .. Capt. NealŽ wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message t... Capt. NealŽ wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: "Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message ... True on a powerboat, not for sail. Proper place to fly the ensign is off of the luff of the mainsail. Next best place is off the backstay as per your original post. Going up the backstay isn't a big deal. Doug You are wrong. Where is one to put the flag when at anchor or when motoring? And, if the flag is flown off the mainsail it should be two-thirds of the way up the leech. Fifteen feet doesn't quite get it. It is wrong to fly the flag off the backstay because the angle is incorrect and the flag does not display properly. Then there is the problem of courtesy flags which are shown off the starboard spreader. They should be above the ensign as a courtesy. A flagstaff on the stern if the proper way to display the flag on modern sloops. CN Proper is not proper if it is not functional. Besides, what about the term stern staff don't you understand? CN Flagstaff or stern staff? It looks like neallie cannot even agree with himself. JR A flag staff at the stern = a stern staff. Keep grasping at those straws, why don't you. CN I don't have to grasp at straws to show what an idiot you are. Just quote you. JR But, you should at least endeavor to make a modicum of sense when doing so. CN How can I and still quote you?? JR It's simple, you only have to quote me in context for anything I say to make sense. Re-arranging reality reeks of reprobation. CN |
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"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message . .. Capt. NealŽ safe under his tinfoil sou'wester, spake thusly: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message t... Capt. NealŽ safe under his tinfoil sou'wester, spake thusly: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: "Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message ... True on a powerboat, not for sail. Proper place to fly the ensign is off of the luff of the mainsail. Next best place is off the backstay as per your original post. Going up the backstay isn't a big deal. Doug You are wrong. Where is one to put the flag when at anchor or when motoring? And, if the flag is flown off the mainsail it should be two-thirds of the way up the leech. Fifteen feet doesn't quite get it. It is wrong to fly the flag off the backstay because the angle is incorrect and the flag does not display properly. Then there is the problem of courtesy flags which are shown off the starboard spreader. They should be above the ensign as a courtesy. A flagstaff on the stern if the proper way to display the flag on modern sloops. CN Proper is not proper if it is not functional. Besides, what about the term stern staff don't you understand? CN Flagstaff or stern staff? It looks like neallie cannot even agree with himself. JR A flag staff at the stern = a stern staff. Keep grasping at those straws, why don't you. CN I don't have to grasp at straws to show what an idiot you are. Just quote you. JR But, you should at least endeavor to make a modicum of sense when doing so. CN How can I and still quote you?? JR Ah, a klassic konundrum. How does one quote nil, and make any sense? Come to think of it, what is nil trying to say here? That he is, indeed, an idiot? That quoting him is "senseless"? John Cairns |
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"Capt. NealŽ" wrote in message ... "Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message ... True on a powerboat, not for sail. Proper place to fly the ensign is off of the luff of the mainsail. Next best place is off the backstay as per your original post. Going up the backstay isn't a big deal. Doug You are wrong. Where is one to put the flag when at anchor or when motoring? And, if the flag is flown off the mainsail it should be two-thirds of the way up the leech. Fifteen feet doesn't quite get it. It is wrong to fly the flag off the backstay because the angle is incorrect and the flag does not display properly. The angle of the mainsail luff isn't much different than the angle of the backstay. I don;t see how if makes much difference. I've been flying my ensign off the backstay for years with no problems. Then there is the problem of courtesy flags which are shown off the starboard spreader. They should be above the ensign as a courtesy. A flagstaff on the stern if the proper way to display the flag on modern sloops. CN |
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"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message news ![]() The angle of the mainsail luff isn't much different than the angle of the backstay. I don;t see how if makes much difference. I've been flying my ensign off the backstay for years with no problems. I'm assuming you meant leech and not luff or it doesn't make much sense. But, please stop and consider that when sailing the leech of the mainsail has wind blowing over it in such a way as to keep the flag flying. Now consider an anchored vessel in little or no wind. A flag that hangs off the backstay will tend to wrap around it and not display properly while a flag on a stern staff will hand down and partially open even if there is no wind and it light winds it displays nicely. You really should stop flying your flag off the backstay and put it on a stern staff. I also used to fly my flag off the backstay until recently after doing quite a bit of reading on the subject and I concluded I was better served with a stern staff. I can even fly my flag at night because the anchor light is right above it and illuminates the flag as required for flags flown at night. CN |
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