On 2005-03-27 07:06:10 +1000, "Jim Donohue" said:

John -

While the listed antenna are all sub-optimal on the lower bands the
difference in performance is marked if they are loaded reasonably well.

I doubt that the requirements of off shore racers should in any way
influence what cruiser do. Cruisers simply don't lose rigs. That is a
more due to the propensity of the racer to go all out even to the risk
of the rig. Every rational cruiser avoids stressing his rig...it just
makes life to difficult.

Note that jury rigged antennas or carrying some spare gizmo still
provide lots of opportunity for a cruiser to get out when needed even
after an unexpected disaster. .

It has been my experience that emergency use of the SSB is reasonably
common but that the cause is generally not a severely damaged boat.
Mostly its stuff like getting something to work or dealing with a
medical problem. Even on occassion have seen starters rebuilt at sea
with expert advice from a ham net.

Jim Donohue KO6MH amateur extra
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On 2005-03-27 00:46:39 +1100, Larry W4CSC said:


SNIP

Jim, I think it is a matter of degree. One should be prepared for the
worst. A backup system must be available for reliable first time use
when the chips are down. Yes 90% of the time you will have no problem
using a backstay. The point I was trying to make is that there are
alternatives which can give good (notice I didn't say great!) service
which address other reliability issues.

On that note I think this topic has been done to death and there is
obviously a divergence of opinion. I know what I will do when I put HF
in my 37' Jeanneau SO.

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Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall

John Proctor wrote in
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Jim, I think it is a matter of degree. One should be prepared for the
worst. A backup system must be available for reliable first time use
when the chips are down. Yes 90% of the time you will have no problem
using a backstay. The point I was trying to make is that there are
alternatives which can give good (notice I didn't say great!) service
which address other reliability issues.



Good idea. Lionheart is equipped with a 406 Mhz EPIRB with its own GPS
receiver built right inside.....

If the mast comes down or other catastrophy happens, just push that little
button.....

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
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John Proctor wrote in
news:2005032710245316807%lost@nowhereorg:

Jim, I think it is a matter of degree. One should be prepared for the
worst. A backup system must be available for reliable first time use
when the chips are down. Yes 90% of the time you will have no problem
using a backstay. The point I was trying to make is that there are
alternatives which can give good (notice I didn't say great!) service
which address other reliability issues.



Good idea. Lionheart is equipped with a 406 Mhz EPIRB with its own GPS
receiver built right inside.....

If the mast comes down or other catastrophy happens, just push that little
button.....

I'm not sure a dismasting rises to the level of a MAYDAY. I'd like to be
able
to be able to seek help and advise via SSB before resorting to declaring an
emergency.

DOug

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"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
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John Proctor wrote in
news:2005032710245316807%lost@nowhereorg:

Jim, I think it is a matter of degree. One should be prepared for the
worst. A backup system must be available for reliable first time use
when the chips are down. Yes 90% of the time you will have no problem
using a backstay. The point I was trying to make is that there are
alternatives which can give good (notice I didn't say great!) service
which address other reliability issues.



Good idea. Lionheart is equipped with a 406 Mhz EPIRB with its own GPS
receiver built right inside.....

If the mast comes down or other catastrophy happens, just push that little
button.....

I'm not sure a dismasting rises to the level of a MAYDAY. I'd like to be
able
to be able to seek help and advise via SSB before resorting to declaring an
emergency.

DOug



that is why you have a coiled up dipole antenna in the emergency kit,
under the bunk, that can be strung up with what is left of the mast,
or broomstick, as the case may be..............


Bruce in alaska
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Been there, done that.

"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
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"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
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John Proctor wrote in
news:2005032710245316807%lost@nowhereorg:

Jim, I think it is a matter of degree. One should be prepared for the
worst. A backup system must be available for reliable first time use
when the chips are down. Yes 90% of the time you will have no problem
using a backstay. The point I was trying to make is that there are
alternatives which can give good (notice I didn't say great!) service
which address other reliability issues.



Good idea. Lionheart is equipped with a 406 Mhz EPIRB with its own GPS
receiver built right inside.....

If the mast comes down or other catastrophy happens, just push that
little
button.....

I'm not sure a dismasting rises to the level of a MAYDAY. I'd like to be
able
to be able to seek help and advise via SSB before resorting to declaring
an
emergency.

DOug



that is why you have a coiled up dipole antenna in the emergency kit,
under the bunk, that can be strung up with what is left of the mast,
or broomstick, as the case may be..............


Bruce in alaska
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