I was told by a mechanic at a local marina today that all major mfj's are
going four cycle which is fine with me. But one reason why is because EPA
emmision standards will be stamping out new production of 2-cycle outboards.
AND in a couple years 2-cycle outboards, especially large horspower models
will eventually be banned from use on several lakes, due to water polution.

Does anybody have any info on this? and what the new EPA standards will consist
of?

if a link or so can be provided, I'd appreciate it.

THANKS!
Tim

"BSCHNAUTZ" writes:

Does anybody have any info on this? and what the new EPA standards will
consist
of?

2 cycle has been illegal in California for several years due to pollution
problems.

Looks like the rest of the world is catching up.

HTH

Lew

Problem is, nobody has come up with a 4-cycle tiny dinghy engine that I am
aware of.
Most people want to be enviromental friendly, but there must be reasonable
alternatives in place. When they come up with something like my Tohatsu 3.5
which
weighs only about 30 pounds, that would be an alternative. Last time I
looked, the
4 stroke 4 h.p.'s were well over 50 pounds.

Sherwin D.

Lew Hodgett wrote:

"BSCHNAUTZ" writes:

Does anybody have any info on this? and what the new EPA standards will
consist
of?

2 cycle has been illegal in California for several years due to pollution
problems.

Looks like the rest of the world is catching up.

HTH

Lew

sherwindu wrote:
Problem is, nobody has come up with a 4-cycle tiny dinghy engine that I am
aware of.
Most people want to be enviromental friendly, but there must be reasonable
alternatives in place. When they come up with something like my Tohatsu 3.5
which
weighs only about 30 pounds, that would be an alternative. Last time I
looked, the
4 stroke 4 h.p.'s were well over 50 pounds.

Sherwin D.


We are in the process of buying a new (used) boat. It comes with a
small, 8 foot inflatable powered by a 2.5 hp, 4 cycle Honda outboard
that appears to be several years old.

Eisboch

powered by a 2.5 hp, 4 cycle Honda outboard
that appears to be several years old.

a friend has one of thos 2 hp, 4 cycle Honda he wants to get rid of but says he
won't sell it to a friend.

JAXAshby wrote:
powered by a 2.5 hp, 4 cycle Honda outboard
that appears to be several years old.


a friend has one of thos 2 hp, 4 cycle Honda he wants to get rid of but says he
won't sell it to a friend.

Don't know anything about it. Haven't run it yet.

Eisboch

Well sort of, it's illegal to ship into the state NEW 2 stroke outboards.

The old ones can still be used AFAIK and used ones can be sold as well, but
no new ones.



"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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"BSCHNAUTZ" writes:

Does anybody have any info on this? and what the new EPA standards will
consist
of?

2 cycle has been illegal in California for several years due to pollution
problems.

Looks like the rest of the world is catching up.

HTH

Lew

The reason I origionally posted this is because I live in southern Illinois,
and I have a chance to get a great deal on a 22ft Bayliner w/ a 235hp Evinrude,
through a bank re-po. The boat is reasonable enough, but I was wondering if in
a year or so I won't be able to run it on like, Lake Carlyle, Shelbyville,
Decatur, or any more local yet small lakes.


Well sort of, it's illegal to ship into the state NEW 2 stroke outboards.

The old ones can still be used AFAIK and used ones can be sold as well, but
no new ones.

(BSCHNAUTZ) wrote in message ...
I was told by a mechanic at a local marina today that all major mfj's are
going four cycle which is fine with me. But one reason why is because EPA
emmision standards will be stamping out new production of 2-cycle outboards.
AND in a couple years 2-cycle outboards, especially large horspower models
will eventually be banned from use on several lakes, due to water polution.

Does anybody have any info on this? and what the new EPA standards will consist
of?

if a link or so can be provided, I'd appreciate it.

THANKS!
Tim

I dont think the newer DFI 2 strokes cause more emissions than 4
strokes. the only difference is oil in the exhaust. I believe it
would be possible to build a 2 stroke with seperate oil circuit, just
like a 4 stroke. This shouldnt add too much weight as motors like
optimax are almost there anyways.

matt

"Matt Lang" wrote

I dont think the newer DFI 2 strokes cause more emissions than 4
strokes. the only difference is oil in the exhaust. I believe it
would be possible to build a 2 stroke with seperate oil circuit,
just
like a 4 stroke. This shouldnt add too much weight as motors like
optimax are almost there anyways.

''seperate oil circuit''?
Do you mean oil injected, like what's been available for a few
decades?
Where will the ''seperate oil circuit'' oil go after the cylinder?
Do you understand how a 2 stroke works?


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