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Ken October 15th 04 01:14 AM

Shinnecock Inlet
 
For a cruise south from Peconic Bay, Long Island, going through the
Shinnecock Canal and Shinnecock Inlet would save many miles. Research
says the canal is fine by locking through, but the little available on
the Inlet says don't do it without local knowledge. Any advice on
navigating the Inlet is appreciated.

JAXAshby October 15th 04 01:56 AM

the currents can be swift indeed, and the mast must come if you are a sailboat.

btw, while there is a "gate" there sometimes closed to prevent wholesale
flooding of the bay with sea water (higher salt content than the bay), that
gate is in no way an actual lock, though there are some who like to think the
place is the Suez Canal

btw, Hampton Bays is decidedly shallow except for marked channel, and sometimes
there even.

btw-2, taking down the mast and putting it up are a DIY operation, with manual
equipment at each end.

For a cruise south from Peconic Bay, Long Island, going through the
Shinnecock Canal and Shinnecock Inlet would save many miles. Research
says the canal is fine by locking through, but the little available on
the Inlet says don't do it without local knowledge. Any advice on
navigating the Inlet is appreciated.







For a cruise south from Peconic Bay, Long Island, going through the
Shinnecock Canal and Shinnecock Inlet would save many miles. Research
says the canal is fine by locking through, but the little available on
the Inlet says don't do it without local knowledge. Any advice on
navigating the Inlet is appreciated.









Wayne.B October 15th 04 03:30 PM

On 15 Oct 2004 00:56:36 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

btw, while there is a "gate" there sometimes closed to prevent wholesale
flooding of the bay with sea water (higher salt content than the bay), that
gate is in no way an actual lock


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2 gates = 1 lock

Shinnecock canal has 2 gates. Gate 1 opens, boat enters, Gate 1
closes, water level equalizes, gate 2 opens, boat leaves.

Suez canal it's not, lock it is. Been there, done that. I once did
97 locks in two weeks. Shinnecock is a lock.


JAXAshby October 16th 04 02:22 AM

Shinnecock is a lock.

not according to the United States Coast Guard, but who are they to know?

the locals, however, think of it as the Suez Canal.



Jeff Morris October 16th 04 03:25 AM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Shinnecock is a lock.


not according to the United States Coast Guard, but who are they to know?


How about the Coast Pilot? It certainly describes it as locks, though they are left
open during the southern set.

http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/nsd/c...-33ed-Ch10.pdf page 360

or, you could look at
http://www.boatli.org/locks.htm

the locals, however, think of it as the Suez Canal.





JAXAshby October 16th 04 03:34 AM

jeffie, phew ped stuck that he is, makes my point thusly:

"Jeff Morris"
Date: 10/15/2004 10:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Shinnecock is a lock.


not according to the United States Coast Guard, but who are they to know?


How about the Coast Pilot? It certainly describes it as locks, though they
are left
open during the southern set.

http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/nsd/c...-33ed-Ch10.pdf page 360

or, you could look at
http://www.boatli.org/locks.htm

the locals, however, think of it as the Suez Canal.













JAXAshby October 16th 04 03:44 AM

Shinnecock is a lock

Not according to the Army Corps of Engineers. But what do they know?

Wayne.B October 16th 04 07:14 AM

On 16 Oct 2004 02:44:58 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

Shinnecock is a lock


Not according to the Army Corps of Engineers. But what do they know?


=============================================

This is really easy. Just remember: 2 gates = 1 lock

If in doubt you could always look at a chart of course:

http://tinyurl.com/6ncpg


Jeff Morris October 16th 04 12:43 PM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Shinnecock is a lock


Not according to the Army Corps of Engineers. But what do they know?


Not much about this lock. But that could be because they don't maintain it.

Here's one account of the locks from:
http://www.whaler.com/REC/WhalerTour...?content=log25

"Shinnecock Bay lay to the south of the marina, and entering it requires going through
the Shinnecock canal, which is about a mile and half long. Mid-way through the canal
is the dreaded Shinnecock Lock. Ordinarily the lock operates like any other; the boats
enter, the gates on one end close, and once the water is raised or lowered, the gates
on the opposite end open so that the boats can exit. However, twice a day for about
six hours, the gates remain open. The current rushes through at nearly five knots and
boaters test their skill as they try to traverse the tricky canal. On our first trip
through, Kevin, one of the salesmen, was aboard and we appreciated his advice. Local
knowledge, always invaluable, was never so much appreciated as we negotiated our way
through the canal, through the lock, and into the Bay. "




JAXAshby October 16th 04 02:31 PM

jeffies, resorts to quoting a blog to "prove" the USCG is wrong.

"Jeff Morris"
Date: 10/16/2004 7:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Shinnecock is a lock


Not according to the Army Corps of Engineers. But what do they know?


Not much about this lock. But that could be because they don't maintain it.

Here's one account of the locks from:
http://www.whaler.com/REC/WhalerTour...?content=log25

"Shinnecock Bay lay to the south of the marina, and entering it requires
going through
the Shinnecock canal, which is about a mile and half long. Mid-way through
the canal
is the dreaded Shinnecock Lock. Ordinarily the lock operates like any other;
the boats
enter, the gates on one end close, and once the water is raised or lowered,
the gates
on the opposite end open so that the boats can exit. However, twice a day for
about
six hours, the gates remain open. The current rushes through at nearly five
knots and
boaters test their skill as they try to traverse the tricky canal. On our
first trip
through, Kevin, one of the salesmen, was aboard and we appreciated his
advice. Local
knowledge, always invaluable, was never so much appreciated as we negotiated
our way
through the canal, through the lock, and into the Bay. "













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