rhys wrote:



So that means a few things: I want a cutter-rigged ketch. I want
steel, stable and Perkins or similar "big iron" diesel. I want a
pilothouse or a hard dodger, and preferably center cockpit.

In his "Coastwise and Offshore Cruising Wrinkles", Tom Colvin
writes: "The supreme robber baron, vandal, thief, pirate, is
found aboard too often, threatening the safety of a proper sea
going vessel: the cockpit. It has no place at sea."

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
rhys wrote:
So that means a few things: I want a cutter-rigged ketch.
I want steel, stable and Perkins or similar "big iron"
iesel. I want a pilothouse or a hard dodger, and preferably
center cockpit.

In his "Coastwise and Offshore Cruising Wrinkles", Tom Colvin
writes: "The supreme robber baron, vandal, thief, pirate, is
found aboard too often, threatening the safety of a proper
sea going vessel: the cockpit. It has no place at sea."

Does he mean the cockpit or the robber baron... has no place
at sea ?

wrote:

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
rhys wrote:
So that means a few things: I want a cutter-rigged ketch.
I want steel, stable and Perkins or similar "big iron"
iesel. I want a pilothouse or a hard dodger, and preferably
center cockpit.

In his "Coastwise and Offshore Cruising Wrinkles", Tom Colvin
writes: "The supreme robber baron, vandal, thief, pirate, is
found aboard too often, threatening the safety of a proper
sea going vessel: the cockpit. It has no place at sea."

Does he mean the cockpit or the robber baron... has no place
at sea ?

Are you taking it personally?

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 05:37:17 GMT, Roy Jose Lorr
wrote:


In his "Coastwise and Offshore Cruising Wrinkles", Tom Colvin
writes: "The supreme robber baron, vandal, thief, pirate, is
found aboard too often, threatening the safety of a proper sea
going vessel: the cockpit. It has no place at sea."

I'm reading another Colvin book from the '70s at the moment. He's
dogmatic, but knowledgeable, or so I am thinking so far. I like center
cockpits for visibility and layout (they are less great for raising
the CE, alas), but I like them quite compact, with a bridgedeck and a
pretty small, easily sealed companionway.

At the other extreme is the very shallow, very wide, missing transom
look of a lot of performance boats. They accomplish the same thing in
different fashions: getting water and hence weight OFF or OUT OF the
boat in a hurry.

I gather Colvin hates the idea of getting pooped in a Jacuzzi-sized
cockpit. Well, who can blame him?

R.

rhys wrote:



I gather Colvin hates the idea of getting pooped in a Jacuzzi-sized
cockpit. Well, who can blame him?

Fitted cushion salesmen, for starters.

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:21:05 GMT, Roy Jose Lorr
wrote:



rhys wrote:



I gather Colvin hates the idea of getting pooped in a Jacuzzi-sized
cockpit. Well, who can blame him?

Fitted cushion salesmen, for starters.

Well, every aftermarket boat sales job is a compromise, or so they say
G

R.

OT, my apologies: Rhys, did you get my info about Shiloh?

L8R

Skip

--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig
http://tinyurl.com/384p2

"And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a
clear night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize
that you are quite alone on a great, wide sea, it is apt to occur to
you that in the general scheme of things you are merely an
insignificant speck on the surface of the ocean; and are not nearly
so important or as self-sufficient as you thought you were. Which is
an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one that may effect a
permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly appreciated
by your friends." - James S. Pitkin

"rhys" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:21:05 GMT, Roy Jose Lorr
wrote:



rhys wrote:



I gather Colvin hates the idea of getting pooped in a Jacuzzi-sized
cockpit. Well, who can blame him?

Fitted cushion salesmen, for starters.

Well, every aftermarket boat sales job is a compromise, or so they say
G

R.

No, sorry, Skip...I saw your message yesterday but was consumed with
work and retrieving engine spares from my boat...I have finally
enlisted some help on that front as I don't seem to have the time to
finish the rebuild personally...paint the block, swap out gears,
etc...

E-mail me offlist please at mdacey AT darkstar dot ca , and I will
learn of this "Shiloh" (isn't that a Civil War battlefield?)

R.

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:45:12 -0400, "Skip Gundlach" skipgundlach @
adelphia . net (usual alterations for spam avoidance) wrote:

OT, my apologies: Rhys, did you get my info about Shiloh?

L8R

Skip

"rhys" wrote in message
...
I gather Colvin hates the idea of getting pooped in a Jacuzzi-sized
cockpit. Well, who can blame him?

Fitted cushion salesmen, for starters.

I remember being pooped in a Hinckley B40 in what I considered to be
marginal seas, such as 1 to 3 feet, with an occasional 4 footer rolling in
due to weather or heavy traffic. Would never have happen on my boat, which
had a somewhat higher freeboard than the Hinckley.

I remember being pooped in a Hinckley B40 in what I considered to be
marginal seas, such as 1 to 3 feet,

huh???

dood, a plywood rowboat ain't no B40