Hi

Having read that cheese could be stored in oil for long periods I
tried this and found that hard cheese (cheddar) in vegetable oil was
still OK after 8 months (tested at home).

Has anyone else any tips for other long term storage without a fridge
or ice box? Can other items be stored in oil or other mediums?

Regards

Steve

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(Steve Smith) wrote:

Hi

Having read that cheese could be stored in oil for long periods I
tried this and found that hard cheese (cheddar) in vegetable oil was
still OK after 8 months (tested at home).

Has anyone else any tips for other long term storage without a fridge
or ice box? Can other items be stored in oil or other mediums?

Get Annie Hill's book "Voyaging on a Small Income". I've summarized
some of it in another post here - you can google it.

And/or get the Pardey's book which I think is called the Cost
Conscious Cruiser. She has a chapter on feeding the crew.

grandma Rosalie

Steve Smith wrote:

Hi

Having read that cheese could be stored in oil for long periods I
tried this and found that hard cheese (cheddar) in vegetable oil was
still OK after 8 months (tested at home).

Has anyone else any tips for other long term storage without a fridge
or ice box? Can other items be stored in oil or other mediums?

Insulated lockers below the waterline?

Stephen

(Steve Smith) wrote:

Having read that cheese could be stored in oil for
long periods I tried this and found that hard cheese
(cheddar) in vegetable oil was still OK after 8 months
(tested at home).

Has anyone else any tips for other long term storage
without a fridge or ice box? Can other items be stored
in oil or other mediums?

Solve this riddle:

What will happen if you type words such as,
e.g., "cruising without refrigeration" into
the Google or other better www search engine
search fields, then read and otherwise follow
up re. the resulting links?

On 27 Jul 2004 02:03:01 -0700, (Steve
Smith) wrote:

Hi

Having read that cheese could be stored in oil for long periods I
tried this and found that hard cheese (cheddar) in vegetable oil was
still OK after 8 months (tested at home).

What type of oil? And stored in what type of sealed container and how
did it stayed sealed? Congratulations on your experimental success,
but I would consider it more relevant to offshore use if a) the
container spent 8 months in a car trunk during the summer, and b) the
car trunk belonged to a Land Rover working mountain trails.

My point? High variability in temperature and considerable movement
are the real enemies of preservation. Granted, you can keep
perishables in the bilge, but the packaging better be
oil/seawater/black water-tight, and in the tropics, with a sea temp of
25 C, the bilge won't be much cooler...eventually.

Has anyone else any tips for other long term storage without a fridge
or ice box? Can other items be stored in oil or other mediums?

Dessication is great for fruits and meats, as is "freeze-dried" and
sealed in foil. Another advantage is the big reduction in weight and
volume.

The early recreational cruising narratives (Hiscocks, Smeatons, Roths,
Pardeys, etc.) are helpful because none of them had more than an
icebox, and that icebox was only good for well under a week. After
that, it was strictly pantry fare, Mason jars and "waxed eggs". Also
good are the early solo circumnavigators, like Robin Knox-Johnson.

Finally, I've often thought that some civilian version of the U.S.
Army's Meals Ready to Eat (MREs) would be handy on a cruising boat,
mainly for the virtue that they "self-cook" and would be great during
a prolonged bout of heavy weather, during which it can be difficult,
if not dangerous, to attempt to get hot food together.

R.

One reference which has a chapter which includes some information on this is
Voyaging Under Power by Robert Beebe.

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"Steve Smith" wrote in message
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Hi

Having read that cheese could be stored in oil for long periods I
tried this and found that hard cheese (cheddar) in vegetable oil was
still OK after 8 months (tested at home).

Has anyone else any tips for other long term storage without a fridge
or ice box? Can other items be stored in oil or other mediums?

Regards

Steve

A vacuum packer is one option for some foods. See
http://www.danozdirect.com.au/?cid=72||&number=FSAVERN&variation=&aitem=30&mitem =71
As this item has a transformer I think it could work off 12 volt ! with some
modification.
Wrapping citrus fruit in silver (Alum) foil individually seems to extend
their life. (if you are not temped to look before needing). (Do a test)
Don't store onions and potatoes together is another hint.

Regards Geoff

"Steve Smith" wrote in message
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Hi

Having read that cheese could be stored in oil for long periods I
tried this and found that hard cheese (cheddar) in vegetable oil was
still OK after 8 months (tested at home).

Has anyone else any tips for other long term storage without a fridge
or ice box? Can other items be stored in oil or other mediums?

Regards

Steve

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In "Once is Enough", Miles Smeeton,
mentioned 'flash boiling' eggs for 5 or
ten seconds, to extend their life. I also
think of the staples of pioneers, like salted
meats and beef jerky. For carbos there
are crackers.
A little research into food preservation
before refrigeration would be full of info
and what's better than the web to do research?

On 27 Jul 2004 02:03:01 -0700, (Steve
Smith) wrote:

Hi

Having read that cheese could be stored in oil for long periods I
tried this and found that hard cheese (cheddar) in vegetable oil was
still OK after 8 months (tested at home).

Has anyone else any tips for other long term storage without a fridge
or ice box? Can other items be stored in oil or other mediums?

Regards

Steve

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Not exactly on point, but this site:

http://www.internet-grocer.net/Shop/

may interest you. The canned meats and cheese are of excellent
quality. They also have some eclectic survival/outdoors products that
make sense on boats

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When we used to cruise with our children, Jan would make casseroles and
freeze them into virtually cement blocks. Then we would locate an ice house
where the blocks of ice were as solid as material compressed in a black
hole. The casserole blocks would go into the bottom of the ice chest which
in our boat had to be 4 feet deep and topped by those ice blocks which were
beyond penetration by the ordinary ice pick. It would take several days for
those casserole blocks to reach a semi-defrosted state, but we would have a
week long menu of terrific dinners. As the children grew and grew away from
sailing with Mom and Dad, we discovered Lean Cuisine and similar packaged
foods. You can get a lot at places such as Eastern Mountain Sports and REI,
but they tend to be heavily salted and spare. I have fond memories of a
night in Cuttyhunk when a friend with a powerboat tied up alongside our 30
foot sloop. All he had on board was a terrific cut of beef. All we had was a
ton of Lean Cuisines. That night we dined on thinly sliced prime rib,
lobster newburg, chicken al fresco wth penne and a ton of other fun foods
topped off with a couple of gallons of Chardonnay. A couple of candles on
the salon table and it was a terrific evening of food, wine and banter.
Those are the memories.

I will not tell you what happened the next morning when barnacles blocked
the head discharge hose.

Tom


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On 27 Jul 2004 02:03:01 -0700, (Steve
Smith) wrote:

Hi

Having read that cheese could be stored in oil for long periods I
tried this and found that hard cheese (cheddar) in vegetable oil was
still OK after 8 months (tested at home).

Has anyone else any tips for other long term storage without a fridge
or ice box? Can other items be stored in oil or other mediums?

Regards

Steve

Remove defcv if replying by email.
Not exactly on point, but this site:

http://www.internet-grocer.net/Shop/

may interest you. The canned meats and cheese are of excellent
quality. They also have some eclectic survival/outdoors products that
make sense on boats

__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/