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On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:33:28 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
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I recall predicting the "Flying Pig" might go as much as
six months without new blisters rearing their ugly convexities
because you didn't do an adequate job drying out the bottom
preferring to believe some nonsense about a daily spraying with
fresh water doing the job adequately.

I can assure you that fresh water has nothing to do with blisters. My
boat sits in fresh water every day and still gets blisters.

Skippy believed the crap about in lieu of storing his blistered hull
in a low humidity environment for a couple or three years so as
to thoroughly dry out the laminate before coating it with a barrier
coat that spraying it via a garden hose with tap water every couple
of days for a month or so would somehow result in the laminate
being completely dried out. I told him it wasn't gonna work and the
idiot who advocated it was just that - an idiot.

You should sell your boat and buy one that doesn't get blisters.

It is the rare freshwater boat that gets blisters because osmosis
generally doesn't take place when there's a membrane (hull layup)
with fresh water on both sides of the membrane.

It is the sal****er boats that have lots of humidity in the laminate
and fresh water in the bilge from rain, etc. that get blisters.

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Sir Gregory

Greg/Neal/Wilbur, your spewing left below for reference:

Are you suggesting that you have water in your bilge, from the rain?

We get a few drips from the packing glands, and NOTHING inside the boat from
green water or rain...

No blisters, either...

L8R

Skip and Lydia, who MAY get to your neighborhood in the continued shakedown;
looking forward to the beer...

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Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
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- Dr. Samuel Johnson

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On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:33:28 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote this crap:



I recall predicting the "Flying Pig" might go as much as
six months without new blisters rearing their ugly convexities
because you didn't do an adequate job drying out the bottom
preferring to believe some nonsense about a daily spraying with
fresh water doing the job adequately.

I can assure you that fresh water has nothing to do with blisters. My
boat sits in fresh water every day and still gets blisters.

Skippy believed the crap about in lieu of storing his blistered hull
in a low humidity environment for a couple or three years so as
to thoroughly dry out the laminate before coating it with a barrier
coat that spraying it via a garden hose with tap water every couple
of days for a month or so would somehow result in the laminate
being completely dried out. I told him it wasn't gonna work and the
idiot who advocated it was just that - an idiot.

You should sell your boat and buy one that doesn't get blisters.

It is the rare freshwater boat that gets blisters because osmosis
generally doesn't take place when there's a membrane (hull layup)
with fresh water on both sides of the membrane.

It is the sal****er boats that have lots of humidity in the laminate
and fresh water in the bilge from rain, etc. that get blisters.

--
Sir Gregory

"Flying Pig" wrote in message
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Greg/Neal/Wilbur, your spewing left below for reference:

Are you suggesting that you have water in your bilge, from the rain?

We get a few drips from the packing glands, and NOTHING inside the boat from
green water or rain...

No blisters, either...


You just haven't looked closely enough. I bet you do, indeed, have new
blisters forming.

No rain water in my bilge. I have no packing gland for salt water ingress
either. My bilge has dust bunnies and little, itty bitty, white spiders/webs
in it.

The sump in the bilge where I have my bilge pump inlet located sometimes
gets wet because the ice box drains into it. But, I don't put ice in my ice
box because it's a refrigerator. But, from time to time a can of beer or two
will spring a leak and the contents end up in the bilge sump. They make
beer cans too thin these days, IMO. But, I do keep a 12 pack of canned
beer in the vertical freezer (evaporator) as I love ice-cold beer and also
they
work as a holding plate of sorts but sometimes if they freeze solid they
break. The cooler, very sunny days cause my photovoltaics to top out
the voltage regulator at 14.5 volts so, under those conditions, the
Adler Barbour works very well.

Today, I plan to enjoy a nice, cold bottle of white zinfandel wine. I'm
celebrating some old asshole on a shabby looking Morgan named
"Moria" who has a noisy wind generator, a constantly barking dog
and a portable gas generator running day and night finally leaving the
anchorage. So obnoxious having to listen to that crap.

--
Sir Gregory

Neal/Greg/Wilbur (how's Wilbur these days? Haven't heard from him in a LONG
time...)'s left below for reference...

Not Moira?

I wonder how your reefer does with that big hole in the insulation (the
drain to the bilge).

y'know, a good thermostat would prevent that beer freezing. Make your
reefer side whatever temp you want, and make the freezer box run until you
achieve that, cycling in whatever hysteresis level points you want (ours is
32/34, but we have a spillover and fan, so the freezer is the controlled
temp, the reefer dumping its heat into that, at 8/10 cycle points).

I like my Coke (no more than one a day) and Lydia her beer (no more than 3 a
day) to be ICE cold. A circulating fan in both boxes keeps the temps
even...

I just finished epoxy-slurry filling the prior mounting holes from the old
evaporator, in prep for tomorrow's installation (presuming that the parts
arrived today as expected); pix some day (I'm so far behind in logs and pix
I'm afraid to open the file)...

L8R

Skip

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Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog
and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog

When a man comes to like a sea life, he is not fit to live on land.
- Dr. Samuel Johnson

" Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·" åke wrote in message
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"Flying Pig" wrote in message
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Greg/Neal/Wilbur, your spewing left below for reference:

Are you suggesting that you have water in your bilge, from the rain?

We get a few drips from the packing glands, and NOTHING inside the boat
from green water or rain...

No blisters, either...


You just haven't looked closely enough. I bet you do, indeed, have new
blisters forming.

No rain water in my bilge. I have no packing gland for salt water ingress
either. My bilge has dust bunnies and little, itty bitty, white
spiders/webs
in it.

The sump in the bilge where I have my bilge pump inlet located sometimes
gets wet because the ice box drains into it. But, I don't put ice in my
ice
box because it's a refrigerator. But, from time to time a can of beer or
two
will spring a leak and the contents end up in the bilge sump. They make
beer cans too thin these days, IMO. But, I do keep a 12 pack of canned
beer in the vertical freezer (evaporator) as I love ice-cold beer and also
they
work as a holding plate of sorts but sometimes if they freeze solid they
break. The cooler, very sunny days cause my photovoltaics to top out
the voltage regulator at 14.5 volts so, under those conditions, the
Adler Barbour works very well.

Today, I plan to enjoy a nice, cold bottle of white zinfandel wine. I'm
celebrating some old asshole on a shabby looking Morgan named
"Moria" who has a noisy wind generator, a constantly barking dog
and a portable gas generator running day and night finally leaving the
anchorage. So obnoxious having to listen to that crap.

--
Sir Gregory

"Flying Pig" wrote in message
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Neal/Greg/Wilbur (how's Wilbur these days? Haven't heard from him in a LONG
time...)'s left below for reference...

Not Moira?

I wonder how your reefer does with that big hole in the insulation (the
drain to the bilge).

There is no big hole. There is a small hole atop of which I have
placed a little slab of 1/2 styrofoam encased in a Zip Lock baggie.

y'know, a good thermostat would prevent that beer freezing. Make your
reefer side whatever temp you want, and make the freezer box run until you
achieve that, cycling in whatever hysteresis level points you want (ours is
32/34, but we have a spillover and fan, so the freezer is the controlled
temp, the reefer dumping its heat into that, at 8/10 cycle points).

Since I put the beer in the evaporator (small vertical version) even at
low thermostat settings it will eventually freeze. I'd rather opt for the
simpler solutions and for that reason I don't spend nearly as much
time as you troubleshooting failed and failing systems.

I like my Coke (no more than one a day) and Lydia her beer (no more than 3 a
day) to be ICE cold. A circulating fan in both boxes keeps
the temps even...

Me too. I like little ice crystals forming when I pop the top. My box
is small and a ciruculating fan is just something else to use
electricity and cause problems. My ice cold beer in the freezer
section also acts like a trouble-free holding plate.

I just finished epoxy-slurry filling the prior mounting holes from the old
evaporator, in prep for tomorrow's installation (presuming that the parts
arrived today as expected); pix some day (I'm so far behind in logs and pix
I'm afraid to open the file)...

You could probably have used your existing evaporator simply by
connecting it to your new evaporator.

Sir Gregory

" Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·" åke wrote in message
...
"Flying Pig" wrote in message
...
Neal/Greg/Wilbur (how's Wilbur these days? Haven't heard from him in a
LONG time...)'s left below for reference...

Not Moira?

I wonder how your reefer does with that big hole in the insulation (the
drain to the bilge).

There is no big hole. There is a small hole atop of which I have
placed a little slab of 1/2 styrofoam encased in a Zip Lock baggie.

y'know, a good thermostat would prevent that beer freezing. Make your
reefer side whatever temp you want, and make the freezer box run until you
achieve that, cycling in whatever hysteresis level points you want (ours is
32/34, but we have a spillover and fan, so the freezer is the controlled
temp, the reefer dumping its heat into that, at 8/10 cycle points).

Since I put the beer in the evaporator (small vertical version) even at
low thermostat settings it will eventually freeze. I'd rather opt for the
simpler solutions and for that reason I don't spend nearly as much
time as you troubleshooting failed and failing systems.

I like my Coke (no more than one a day) and Lydia her beer (no more than 3
a day) to be ICE cold. A circulating fan in both boxes keeps
the temps even...

Me too. I like little ice crystals forming when I pop the top. My box
is small and a ciruculating fan is just something else to use
electricity and cause problems. My ice cold beer in the freezer
section also acts like a trouble-free holding plate.

I just finished epoxy-slurry filling the prior mounting holes from the old
evaporator, in prep for tomorrow's installation (presuming that the parts
arrived today as expected); pix some day (I'm so far behind in logs and pix
I'm afraid to open the file)...

You could probably have used your existing evaporator simply by
connecting it to your new evaporator.*

* I meant new compressor