Jessica,
I hate laundermats. I have a washer and dryer on my boat. They are very useful. Here is a tip, never use a belt drive model. They
throw the belt off when sailing.
Steve

"Jessica B" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:18:51 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:



What do you think, Wilbur?
Would this one do?

Cannibal
http://www.sailingtexas.com/scustom54100.html

Wow... pretty boat, but isn't it a pain to get in an out from where
the big wheel is? Seems like they could have made it simpler.

A washer/dryer on a sailboat??? That's weird!
--

47 is special

I'm guessing that on a two or three year cruise it might be nice to
processionally have clean clothes.

But that's just me. YMMV?


Steve Lusardi wrote:
Jessica,
I hate laundermats. I have a washer and dryer on my boat. They are very
useful. Here is a tip, never use a belt drive model. They throw the belt
off when sailing.
Steve

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:18:51 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:



What do you think, Wilbur?
Would this one do?

Cannibal
http://www.sailingtexas.com/scustom54100.html

Wow... pretty boat, but isn't it a pain to get in an out from where
the big wheel is? Seems like they could have made it simpler.

A washer/dryer on a sailboat??? That's weird!
--

47 is special



--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:48:35 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I'm guessing that on a two or three year cruise it might be nice to
processionally have clean clothes.

But that's just me. YMMV?


Steve Lusardi wrote:
Jessica,
I hate laundermats. I have a washer and dryer on my boat. They are very
useful. Here is a tip, never use a belt drive model. They throw the belt
off when sailing.
Steve

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:18:51 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:



What do you think, Wilbur?
Would this one do?

Cannibal
http://www.sailingtexas.com/scustom54100.html

Wow... pretty boat, but isn't it a pain to get in an out from where
the big wheel is? Seems like they could have made it simpler.

A washer/dryer on a sailboat??? That's weird!
--

47 is special


Doesn't the boat ever stop somewhere? Seems like all you have to do is
pull in somewhere and deal with it.

What happens in the middle of the ocean? You're going to do laundry in
your bring-along system? Seems at odds with sailing some how.

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:48:35 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I'm guessing that on a two or three year cruise it might be nice to
processionally have clean clothes.

But that's just me. YMMV?


Steve Lusardi wrote:
Jessica,
I hate laundermats. I have a washer and dryer on my boat. They are very
useful. Here is a tip, never use a belt drive model. They throw the belt
off when sailing.
Steve

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:18:51 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:



What do you think, Wilbur?
Would this one do?

Cannibal
http://www.sailingtexas.com/scustom54100.html

Wow... pretty boat, but isn't it a pain to get in an out from where
the big wheel is? Seems like they could have made it simpler.

A washer/dryer on a sailboat??? That's weird!
--

47 is special


Doesn't the boat ever stop somewhere? Seems like all you have to do is
pull in somewhere and deal with it.

What happens in the middle of the ocean? You're going to do laundry in
your bring-along system? Seems at odds with sailing some how.



I can't help loving your sensible attitude.

You are 100% correct. Some of these lubbers don't know what sailing's all
about, even when they've abused (as opposed to used) a sailboat for years.
Some, like those who carry shoreside-type washer/driers and run them when
sailing (or when anchored) are just plain pathetic.

When sailing one needs minimal clothing. To wash that clothing, when
necessary, all that's needed is a bucket full of salt water, a good
detergent that bubbles up in salt water and bleach. Hand scrubbing some
shorts and t-shirts takes little time and one hand-rinse with fresh water
will rid them of salt residue so they dry properly. Drying them in the wind
and sun takes less than a half hour.

Instead, some so-called sailors load their boats up with all sorts of
lubberly crap that requires lubberly amount of energy and I'm convinced they
do so because they really are AFRAID to sail and live the sailing life so
they sail a house, apartment or condo instead.

I wouldn't mind this sort of stupidity except for the fact that it spreads
out from their boats like a giant sewage slick. The noise of generators 24/7
to run all this crap impinges upon the peace, quiet and clean air of
anchorages everywhere. And, these fools actually think they are sailors.
They think they are cool and they actually brag about their selfish and
anti-social activities on Usenet.

They are disgusting, selfish and ignorant, bothersome losers.


Wilbur Hubbard

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:15:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:48:35 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I'm guessing that on a two or three year cruise it might be nice to
processionally have clean clothes.

But that's just me. YMMV?


Steve Lusardi wrote:
Jessica,
I hate laundermats. I have a washer and dryer on my boat. They are very
useful. Here is a tip, never use a belt drive model. They throw the belt
off when sailing.
Steve

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:18:51 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:



What do you think, Wilbur?
Would this one do?

Cannibal
http://www.sailingtexas.com/scustom54100.html

Wow... pretty boat, but isn't it a pain to get in an out from where
the big wheel is? Seems like they could have made it simpler.

A washer/dryer on a sailboat??? That's weird!
--

47 is special


Doesn't the boat ever stop somewhere? Seems like all you have to do is
pull in somewhere and deal with it.

What happens in the middle of the ocean? You're going to do laundry in
your bring-along system? Seems at odds with sailing some how.



I can't help loving your sensible attitude.

You are 100% correct. Some of these lubbers don't know what sailing's all
about, even when they've abused (as opposed to used) a sailboat for years.
Some, like those who carry shoreside-type washer/driers and run them when
sailing (or when anchored) are just plain pathetic.

When sailing one needs minimal clothing. To wash that clothing, when
necessary, all that's needed is a bucket full of salt water, a good
detergent that bubbles up in salt water and bleach. Hand scrubbing some
shorts and t-shirts takes little time and one hand-rinse with fresh water
will rid them of salt residue so they dry properly. Drying them in the wind
and sun takes less than a half hour.


As I previously posted, you demonstrate your ignorance of the Real
Cruising lifestyle yet again. the Real Cruiser, i.e., one who actually
makes cruises, rather then an aborted "voyage" around the harbour -
assuming that the wind isn't blowing too strong and nor to lightly -
by necessity requires more then your "minimal clothing".

Say a "cruise" from Singapore to Japan and onward through the
Aleutians, Alaska and onward, ultimately to Mexico and then through
the Canal to the Caribbean, north to Canada and so finally to England
and eventually returned to Asia.

A Cruise made by a personal friend with his 36 ft. steel hull sloop,
over the past few years.

So Willie-boy, all your so called Sailorman experience is somewhat
lacking in both scope, and distance.

Instead, some so-called sailors load their boats up with all sorts of
lubberly crap that requires lubberly amount of energy and I'm convinced they
do so because they really are AFRAID to sail and live the sailing life so
they sail a house, apartment or condo instead.

And for what periods have you lived the "sailing life"? Was it last
Sunday when you planned the "cruise' around the bay.... and aborted
because the wind wasn't blowing the correct velocity for your
tastes.... I wonder what you'd do if you made a real voyage and hit a
period of little wind when half way from Langkawi to Kochi, say, as
another friend did a year ago?

I wouldn't mind this sort of stupidity except for the fact that it spreads
out from their boats like a giant sewage slick. The noise of generators 24/7
to run all this crap impinges upon the peace, quiet and clean air of
anchorages everywhere. And, these fools actually think they are sailors.
They think they are cool and they actually brag about their selfish and
anti-social activities on Usenet.

Again you exhibit your minimal experience in actually cruising, as
apposed to reading magazines. In the last 15 years I have rarely
anchored in a harbout where there were more then two or three boats
and never... let me repeat that NEVER .... anchored anywhere that I
could even hear a generator.

Ah Willie-boy, perhaps if you would get out into the world you'd
discover what a sailing life style is all about as apposed to your
overheated imagination.

They are disgusting, selfish and ignorant, bothersome losers.


Wilbur Hubbard

Cheers,

Bruce

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:08:43 +0700, Bruce
wrote:



As I previously posted, you demonstrate your ignorance of the Real
Cruising lifestyle yet again. the Real Cruiser, i.e., one who actually
makes cruises, rather then an aborted "voyage" around the harbour -
assuming that the wind isn't blowing too strong and nor to lightly -
by necessity requires more then your "minimal clothing".

Say a "cruise" from Singapore to Japan and onward through the
Aleutians, Alaska and onward, ultimately to Mexico and then through
the Canal to the Caribbean, north to Canada and so finally to England
and eventually returned to Asia.

A Cruise made by a personal friend with his 36 ft. steel hull sloop,
over the past few years.


Have you heard anything from Peter recently?
The coffee lover from Sydney.
I miss his conversation.
As I recall, he made some lengthy cruises and was about to cruise to
the Caribbean.
Hope he's doing well.
If you're in contact with him, please pass along my good wishes.

--Vic

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:19:21 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:08:43 +0700, Bruce
wrote:



As I previously posted, you demonstrate your ignorance of the Real
Cruising lifestyle yet again. the Real Cruiser, i.e., one who actually
makes cruises, rather then an aborted "voyage" around the harbour -
assuming that the wind isn't blowing too strong and nor to lightly -
by necessity requires more then your "minimal clothing".

Say a "cruise" from Singapore to Japan and onward through the
Aleutians, Alaska and onward, ultimately to Mexico and then through
the Canal to the Caribbean, north to Canada and so finally to England
and eventually returned to Asia.

A Cruise made by a personal friend with his 36 ft. steel hull sloop,
over the past few years.


Have you heard anything from Peter recently?
The coffee lover from Sydney.
I miss his conversation.
As I recall, he made some lengthy cruises and was about to cruise to
the Caribbean.
Hope he's doing well.
If you're in contact with him, please pass along my good wishes.

--Vic


The last time I heard from Peter he was on the final leg of a
circumnavigation, heading for Australia.

He had some rather bitter family problems, that he was planning on
resolving and as a result I'm not sure exactly where he and what he is
doing however he certainly had some strong contacts in Malaysia.

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
trim

Why don't YOU learn how to trim, Bruce?

As I previously posted, you demonstrate your ignorance of the Real
Cruising lifestyle yet again. the Real Cruiser, i.e., one who actually
makes cruises, rather then an aborted "voyage" around the harbour -
assuming that the wind isn't blowing too strong and nor to lightly -
by necessity requires more then your "minimal clothing".

Cruising is cruising. It is not defined by length of passage or time at
anchor. I think you are confusing cruising with voyaging. Probably because
you aren't intimately familiar with either. LOL!

Say a "cruise" from Singapore to Japan and onward through the
Aleutians, Alaska and onward, ultimately to Mexico and then through
the Canal to the Caribbean, north to Canada and so finally to England
and eventually returned to Asia.

Sounds like a voyage to me. . . Voyaging is going from a to b to c to d,
etc. Cruising is more often going from a to b to a, etc.

A Cruise made by a personal friend with his 36 ft. steel hull sloop,
over the past few years.

That's a voyage, PUTZ!

So Willie-boy, all your so called Sailorman experience is somewhat
lacking in both scope, and distance.

Says the ladyboy expert whose idea of "around the world" is some
sordid,transgendered sexcapade. LOL! Everybody knows why you remain in
Thailand, d00d!


And for what periods have you lived the "sailing life"? Was it last
Sunday when you planned the "cruise' around the bay.... and aborted
because the wind wasn't blowing the correct velocity for your
tastes.... I wonder what you'd do if you made a real voyage and hit a
period of little wind when half way from Langkawi to Kochi, say, as
another friend did a year ago?


Finally, you said it right. "A real voyage." Hey, I never claimed to be a
voyager as I've always said that crap is boring beyond belief and an
undesirable way to sail. The challenge of sailing is not isolation thousands
of miles from civilization but, rather, sailing along the fringes of
civililzation taking and leaving it as is one's heartfelt desire. It's not
being controlled and harassed by foreign bureaucrats and their dumb
restrictions, graft and corruption.

Again you exhibit your minimal experience in actually cruising, as
apposed to reading magazines. In the last 15 years I have rarely
anchored in a harbout where there were more then two or three boats
and never... let me repeat that NEVER .... anchored anywhere that I
could even hear a generator.


I don't read the 'tales of inept woe' magazines any more. I've had my fill
of them since they regularly portray sailing as some bumbleing cluster****
as the norm. Take Joe, for example. His tale of ineptitude and woe is
exactly the thing one would see in the sailing magazines. And, NEVER would
there be one word about WHY the ineptitude caused the entire embarrassing
and unnecessary scenario.


Ah Willie-boy, perhaps if you would get out into the world you'd
discover what a sailing life style is all about as apposed to your
overheated imagination.


If I have an overheated imagination lately it's probably because of
JessicaB. That girl is about as perfect as any I've run across in decades.
She has little or no trouble seeing you pretenders for what you are. That
alone makes her highly discriminating and ultimately desirable. If only I
were about 25-30 years younger I'd have to seriously pursue her.


Wilbur Hubbard

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:17:26 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
trim

Why don't YOU learn how to trim, Bruce?

As I previously posted, you demonstrate your ignorance of the Real
Cruising lifestyle yet again. the Real Cruiser, i.e., one who actually
makes cruises, rather then an aborted "voyage" around the harbour -
assuming that the wind isn't blowing too strong and nor to lightly -
by necessity requires more then your "minimal clothing".

Cruising is cruising. It is not defined by length of passage or time at
anchor. I think you are confusing cruising with voyaging. Probably because
you aren't intimately familiar with either. LOL!

Goodness, a Sunday ride around the harbor and you call it "cruising"?
What is next? Peddling a Swan Boat on the lake in the park to simulate
a world cruise?

Say a "cruise" from Singapore to Japan and onward through the
Aleutians, Alaska and onward, ultimately to Mexico and then through
the Canal to the Caribbean, north to Canada and so finally to England
and eventually returned to Asia.

Sounds like a voyage to me. . . Voyaging is going from a to b to c to d,
etc. Cruising is more often going from a to b to a, etc.

You are misquoting Lynn Pardey, who was making the point that The
Pardeys are different from other people - THEY make VOYAGES, while the
hoi polloi only cruse.

A Cruise made by a personal friend with his 36 ft. steel hull sloop,
over the past few years.

That's a voyage, PUTZ!

Well, Willie-boy, you are, of course, are quite capable of calling a
Spade a Diamond, but the people that actually do it call it
"cruising".


So Willie-boy, all your so called Sailorman experience is somewhat
lacking in both scope, and distance.

Says the ladyboy expert whose idea of "around the world" is some
sordid,transgendered sexcapade. LOL! Everybody knows why you remain in
Thailand, d00d!

Sorry Willie-boy, Got a wife, kids and grand kids and I stay in
Thailand because I like it..... Please note that this little,
backward, 3rd world, country, is cheaper to live in, has equal or
perhaps better medical care, and doesn't cancel my licenses....


And for what periods have you lived the "sailing life"? Was it last
Sunday when you planned the "cruise' around the bay.... and aborted
because the wind wasn't blowing the correct velocity for your
tastes.... I wonder what you'd do if you made a real voyage and hit a
period of little wind when half way from Langkawi to Kochi, say, as
another friend did a year ago?


Finally, you said it right. "A real voyage." Hey, I never claimed to be a
voyager as I've always said that crap is boring beyond belief and an
undesirable way to sail. The challenge of sailing is not isolation thousands
of miles from civilization but, rather, sailing along the fringes of
civililzation taking and leaving it as is one's heartfelt desire. It's not
being controlled and harassed by foreign bureaucrats and their dumb
restrictions, graft and corruption.

Goodness... the challenge of sailing. What challenge is that? You mean
that you forgot to turn on the GPS and are lost? Or that the wind got
up to 15 MPH and you had to run for shelter?

You certainly change your tune, don't you. Only a few messages ago you
were bemoaning the fact that the US Government had cancelled your
license. The Thais haven't cancelled mine... I made my annual trip to
the Thai Immigrations to renew my resident visa and was in and out in
less then an hour (including time for a doughnut and coffee). Handed
over the required documents, the lady officer smiled and said have a
nice day. If that is the "harassed" that you are talking about then I
might point out that it is far nicer treatment then one receives at
the US Embassy.


Again you exhibit your minimal experience in actually cruising, as
apposed to reading magazines. In the last 15 years I have rarely
anchored in a harbout where there were more then two or three boats
and never... let me repeat that NEVER .... anchored anywhere that I
could even hear a generator.


I don't read the 'tales of inept woe' magazines any more. I've had my fill
of them since they regularly portray sailing as some bumbleing cluster****
as the norm. Take Joe, for example. His tale of ineptitude and woe is
exactly the thing one would see in the sailing magazines. And, NEVER would
there be one word about WHY the ineptitude caused the entire embarrassing
and unnecessary scenario.

Willie-boy your so called "expertise" is derived from reading books
and your activities, as you have reported here, are on the level of
that neophyte.

Joe, to use your example, actually did something, he made a trip
somewhere. Yes he had his problems but as you weren't there you really
don't know a damned thing about any of the details or why anything
happened, so your comments about "ineptitude" are just the
blathering's of a totally uninformed spectator. You, on the other hand
made a trip out into the bay and, as reported, anchored overnight.


Ah Willie-boy, perhaps if you would get out into the world you'd
discover what a sailing life style is all about as apposed to your
overheated imagination.


If I have an overheated imagination lately it's probably because of
JessicaB. That girl is about as perfect as any I've run across in decades.
She has little or no trouble seeing you pretenders for what you are. That
alone makes her highly discriminating and ultimately desirable. If only I
were about 25-30 years younger I'd have to seriously pursue her.

Twist and turn some more. I said "...what a sailing life style is all
about as apposed to your overheated imagination" obviously referring
to your imagined sailing experience. You have no answer to my
statement so, in order to attempt to save face, you try an end-run
around the subject and start to talk about some woman who you've never
met and know very little about..



Wilbur Hubbard

Cheers,

Bruce

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:17:26 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip
If I have an overheated imagination lately it's probably because of
JessicaB. That girl is about as perfect as any I've run across in decades.
She has little or no trouble seeing you pretenders for what you are. That
alone makes her highly discriminating and ultimately desirable. If only I
were about 25-30 years younger I'd have to seriously pursue her.

I wonder what that would be like... Flowers, candy (nah, well, a few),
cinnibons, help with a shampoo - like in that movie with Nicole Kidman
(without the rampaging murderer though)?

Ok, I'm really off to the gym...