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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:56:18 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Bob" wrote in message
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SKip and his "concerned friends" should be
ashamed......................

I think he is better suited for a star roll in Whale Wars, another
ship of fools who desrve each other.

Bob.




I tried to tell poor Skippy, time and time again,


What are you? The sailing committee chairman?



I happen to be perhaps the most knowledgeable sailor in these groups. I know
of which I speak. I am also pretty much of a traditionalist and I don't
believe in EPIRBS and rescue services funded by taxpayers. I believe you go
to sea at your own risk. To risk the lives of others because you need rescue
because of your incompetence should be a criminal offense.

I also don't believe in yellow stripes down a so-called sailor's back ala
the Red Cloud disgraced crew who, when they become a little frightened by
some small adverse condition, blubbered for help like a baby crying for its
mother.

I don't believe in involving half the world in one's voyaging like that
Zac's publicity hound parents. I loathe parents who live vicariously through
their brats.

I don't believe in incompetent and weak females pulling similar publicity
stunts.

I don't believe in sissy racers who carry electronics required by the race
organizers so hugely expensive open ocean rescues can be commenced for every
little mishap.

I don't believe in meathead, stay-at-home-dad morons operating a floating
day care center replete with chubby, pale and out of work has been models
claiming it's sailing.

I don't believe in some losers working on an old wooden boat for twenty
years and never sailing it anywhere calling themselves sailors.

I can't abide dangerous multi-hulls that capsize in rough seas because of
their innate design flaws that confer greater stability upside-down than
right-side up.

What all this amounts to is I can't stand how a bunch of brain dead liberal
cretins put to sea calling themselves sailors while all they really
accomplish is giving us real sailors a bad name by virtue of how they are a
bunch of whining, wimping, pansy sissies who couldn't finish without outside
assistance what they started to save their worthless lives.

Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

[snip usually idiotic drivel]

Translation: Skip is out there doing what I can barely dream about and
I'm damned jealous.

Cheers
Martin

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:05:45 -0400, Moi wrote:

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

[snip usually idiotic drivel]

Translation: Skip is out there doing what I can barely dream about and
I'm damned jealous.

Cheers
Martin

Apparently Wilbur hasn't yet realized that Skip, albeit with all his
problems, is now light years more experienced then Wilbur will ever
be. Skip has actually sailed somewhere and back while Wilbur has not.

Unfortunately for Wilbur, reading sailing magazines does not count for
experience.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:05:45 -0400, Moi wrote:

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

[snip usually idiotic drivel]

Translation: Skip is out there doing what I can barely dream about and
I'm damned jealous.

Cheers
Martin

Apparently Wilbur hasn't yet realized that Skip, albeit with all his
problems, is now light years more experienced then Wilbur will ever
be. Skip has actually sailed somewhere and back while Wilbur has not.

Unfortunately for Wilbur, reading sailing magazines does not count for
experience.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Now, Bruce,

You'll recall Aragorn's post of a while ago. Whether it's Neal or his
boyfriend, there was a lot of sailing in Wilbur's past. His detailed
knowledge of the Bahamas has been useful to me. Just now, we're
experiencing the mosquitos he warned about before we were to leave, nearly 6
months ago, now, before all the repairs/refit stuff we did.

While he was mistaken about our demise on a shoal, we WERE in the area, but
since I was driving :{)) we weren't anywhere near shallow. We anchored in 20
feet of water that night, I got up at a reasonable hour for having retired
at 4, and continued.

I look forward to his recommendations as we move further south. Right now,
we elected to stay at Powell - a bit too close to shore, anchoring in about
9 feet of water, occasioned by my diving the bottom of the keel which had
grown a small menagerie of calcium-based life-forms sitting in the mud at
the dock in St. Simons for those 4 months, and cleaning off the depth
sounders, groundplane and keel cooler bronzes as well, while the ladies went
and explored the magical beach on the other side - and have a few skeeters.
Citronella candles kept them at bay as the girls watched the Hobbit on one
of the electronic sets Wilbur decries :{))

Tomorrow we'll head over to Cooperstown, and then start moving south toward
Marsh Harbor where the girls will get off in about 10 days, and a couple of
weeks later my son and wife will join us. I'd enjoy (under separate thread
heading, please!) recommendations for beachcombing, snorkeling, fishing
(somehow I got a speargun permit!!) and conching between here and there...

L8R, y'all

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"Flying Pig" wrote in message
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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:05:45 -0400, Moi wrote:

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

[snip usually idiotic drivel]

Translation: Skip is out there doing what I can barely dream about and
I'm damned jealous.

Cheers
Martin

Apparently Wilbur hasn't yet realized that Skip, albeit with all his
problems, is now light years more experienced then Wilbur will ever
be. Skip has actually sailed somewhere and back while Wilbur has not.

Unfortunately for Wilbur, reading sailing magazines does not count for
experience.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Now, Bruce,

You'll recall Aragorn's post of a while ago. Whether it's Neal or his
boyfriend, there was a lot of sailing in Wilbur's past. His detailed
knowledge of the Bahamas has been useful to me. Just now, we're
experiencing the mosquitos he warned about before we were to leave, nearly
6 months ago, now, before all the repairs/refit stuff we did.

While he was mistaken about our demise on a shoal, we WERE in the area,
but since I was driving :{)) we weren't anywhere near shallow. We anchored
in 20 feet of water that night, I got up at a reasonable hour for having
retired at 4, and continued.

I look forward to his recommendations as we move further south. Right
now, we elected to stay at Powell - a bit too close to shore, anchoring in
about 9 feet of water, occasioned by my diving the bottom of the keel
which had grown a small menagerie of calcium-based life-forms sitting in
the mud at the dock in St. Simons for those 4 months, and cleaning off the
depth sounders, groundplane and keel cooler bronzes as well, while the
ladies went and explored the magical beach on the other side - and have a
few skeeters. Citronella candles kept them at bay as the girls watched the
Hobbit on one of the electronic sets Wilbur decries :{))

Tomorrow we'll head over to Cooperstown, and then start moving south
toward Marsh Harbor where the girls will get off in about 10 days, and a
couple of weeks later my son and wife will join us. I'd enjoy (under
separate thread heading, please!) recommendations for beachcombing,
snorkeling, fishing (somehow I got a speargun permit!!) and conching
between here and there...

L8R, y'all


It's good to hear you didn't get tangled up with Lily Shoal though you were
close and they do shift some. But being just giant sand washes they
generally don't do much harm should you run up on one. Most of them you can
just sail over at high water but the water is so clean you'd swear it's only
a couple feet deep.

Powell is nice, especially the beach on the ocean side. There is also a nice
beach ocean side on the north end of Powell and a path to it from the
bayside. Good beachcombing on the north beach as it is less frequented.
There is a pretty nice little cliff with a path up to it on the north
central part of the island at the outcrop on the bayside that affords a
great view of the anchorage.

Coopers Town isn't anything special and the anchorage is rough in prevailing
winds.

I would stop at Manjack Cay aka Nunjack Cay if you have the time. It used to
be uninhabited but with mowed off paths and building lots for sale but no
habitation yet. More great beaches on the ocean side with a path from
Nunjack Beach is nice on the Bayside for picnics. There used to be a dock
with enough water for me to tie up to it. You could probably make it to the
dock as well. I can anchor right off NunJack beach but you might have to
anchor outside the little reef that projects from the south that makes the
little NunJack Beach Harbor. Some cruisers feel their way around NunJack
Rocks and anchor in the little harbor on the north. It's a beautiful place
there.

South of that is Green Turtle Cay. The main anchorage is not too great as
there is lots of faster motorboat traffic going back and forth to the
mainland (Abaco Island). Anchoring in White Sound is more peaceful and Black
Sound is nice, too. I would definitely spend a day or two at Green Turtle
Cay poking around. New Plymouth is quaint and has all the amenities. I can
get my boat into Settlement Creek and New Plymouth harbor but it is small
and shallow. You might be able to get FP in there but I'd check it out with
the dinghy first if I were you.

From Green Turtle you will probably want to take FP on the outside route
around Whale Cay as the inside channel is quite shoal. In settled weather
the Whale Channel outside route is no problem. Don't do it in heavy weather,
though, as there can be a 'rage' which amounts to breaking waves in the
inlets. Once you transit Whale Cay you'll see Great Guana to the Southeast.
The north side of the island has Bakers Bay which used to be undeveloped and
contained the wreckage of an old cruise ship port and the channel was
dredged deep with a turning basin at the end for a cruise ship. When I was
there Bakers Bay was a cruisers anchorage with a path to the great beach on
the ocean side.

Further south you can anchor in Fisher's Bay north or Delia's Cay and dinghy
into the Guana Beach Resort where you can walk to the settlement which has a
nice little grocery store and you can walk across the island to Nippers to
have a frozen Nippers. You can't NOT visit Nippers as it is world famous.

Have fun.

Wilbur Hubbard

Thanks, Wilbur. More info than any of the guides have provided.

The girls enjoyed a nude beach experience on the main beach at Powell a
couple of days ago while I dove our keel (much encrusted from 4 months of
Saint Simons Island pluff) and transducers/keel cooler/groundplane. Perhaps
we'll go back today for the north beach what with the very small wind right
on our nose at the moment for Manjack and GTC.

We will spend a couple of days at GTC, especially as there's a sistership
moored there, owned by someone who was instrumental in our searching and
evaluation of the boat we passed on (High Time) and led us to revisit
Tehamana, the prior name for our boat. It had been docked literally across
the canal from High Time and I'd been aboard during our engine survey on HT.
It didn't show well, but my friend saw it in his boatyard in FTL, where the
owner, his maintenance guy, and the owner's daughter's boyfriend were doing
a three week touchup. Needless to say, it showed a great deal better after
that, as we bought it :{))

As an aside, I communicate with several "identities" aboard this list
privately; their info is entirely protected. I'd welcome such with you, as
the fun we have here aside, I'm sure you're a veritable font of info, and I
expect we'd enjoy each other, whether you ever come sail with us or not
:{)) - and I'd not do an Aragorn, either :{))

So, depending on what we can see with our wifi setup, we'll prolly be
checking in from time to time. The sked here is such that I've not been
able to touch the keyboard for my long-overdue logs since Saint Simons; once
the kids are off, I'll try to make that a priority.

You're right about Coop - nothing doing, but an enjoyable walk, and some
VERY nice pizzas - albeit carryout, something we'd not figured out until it
was presented to us on the porch - from the local who does that. Killer
connection here, too- 20 sites, including one each on Spanish and GTCs, all
but one open. Vonage has been humming as we made flight skeds, girlies
caught up with their parents, and I ordered some zipper parts. Don't always
have a sufficiently strong signal for that pleasure :{))

L8R

Skip and crew

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make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in
its hand
(Richard Bach)

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SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog
and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog

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make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in
its hand
(Richard Bach)


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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It's good to hear you didn't get tangled up with Lily Shoal though you
were close and they do shift some. But being just giant sand washes they
generally don't do much harm should you run up on one. Most of them you
can just sail over at high water but the water is so clean you'd swear
it's only a couple feet deep.

Powell is nice, especially the beach on the ocean side. There is also a
nice beach ocean side on the north end of Powell and a path to it from the
bayside. Good beachcombing on the north beach as it is less frequented.
There is a pretty nice little cliff with a path up to it on the north
central part of the island at the outcrop on the bayside that affords a
great view of the anchorage.

Coopers Town isn't anything special and the anchorage is rough in
prevailing winds.

I would stop at Manjack Cay aka Nunjack Cay if you have the time. It used
to be uninhabited but with mowed off paths and building lots for sale but
no habitation yet. More great beaches on the ocean side with a path from
Nunjack Beach is nice on the Bayside for picnics. There used to be a dock
with enough water for me to tie up to it. You could probably make it to
the dock as well. I can anchor right off NunJack beach but you might have
to anchor outside the little reef that projects from the south that makes
the little NunJack Beach Harbor. Some cruisers feel their way around
NunJack Rocks and anchor in the little harbor on the north. It's a
beautiful place there.

South of that is Green Turtle Cay. The main anchorage is not too great as
there is lots of faster motorboat traffic going back and forth to the
mainland (Abaco Island). Anchoring in White Sound is more peaceful and
Black Sound is nice, too. I would definitely spend a day or two at Green
Turtle Cay poking around. New Plymouth is quaint and has all the
amenities. I can get my boat into Settlement Creek and New Plymouth
harbor but it is small and shallow. You might be able to get FP in there
but I'd check it out with the dinghy first if I were you.

From Green Turtle you will probably want to take FP on the outside route
around Whale Cay as the inside channel is quite shoal. In settled weather
the Whale Channel outside route is no problem. Don't do it in heavy
weather, though, as there can be a 'rage' which amounts to breaking waves
in the inlets. Once you transit Whale Cay you'll see Great Guana to the
Southeast. The north side of the island has Bakers Bay which used to be
undeveloped and contained the wreckage of an old cruise ship port and the
channel was dredged deep with a turning basin at the end for a cruise
ship. When I was there Bakers Bay was a cruisers anchorage with a path to
the great beach on the ocean side.

Further south you can anchor in Fisher's Bay north or Delia's Cay and
dinghy into the Guana Beach Resort where you can walk to the settlement
which has a nice little grocery store and you can walk across the island
to Nippers to have a frozen Nippers. You can't NOT visit Nippers as it is
world famous.

Have fun.

Wilbur Hubbard