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Good, bad or ugly? Any comments?
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Gordon wrote:
Good, bad or ugly? Any comments? Gordon Over $400 is certainly ugly. Dunno about the rest... |
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"cavelamb" wrote in message
... Gordon wrote: Good, bad or ugly? Any comments? Gordon Over $400 is certainly ugly. Dunno about the rest... Supposedly, it works great. I considered one for a while, but decided I didn't really need it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:28:34 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "cavelamb" wrote in message ... Gordon wrote: Good, bad or ugly? Any comments? Gordon Over $400 is certainly ugly. Dunno about the rest... Supposedly, it works great. I considered one for a while, but decided I didn't really need it. I assembled pretty much the same rig, but used all better quality parts used in rock climbing, and a few parts I made myself. I ended up spending as much, but my rig is safer and easier to use. I have a lot of health issues and even had a stroke a while back, but I can get up and down the mast on my boat without any outside help in a matter of minutes. It's actually fun. I try to remember to take my camera when I go up, and often stay up for a while and just enjoy the view. One big advantage I have over the ATN setup is that my etriers have solid flat rungs for my feet. I could go up barefoot if I wanted to. The ATN unit just uses loops, and unless you are wearing heavy work boots, that is gonna HURT. |
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wrote in message ... One additional advantage I haven't mentioned is that unlike mast steps, or being hauled up in a traditional chair, is that by attaching the bottom of the static line to various points on deck, you can also do things like access stuff all along the backstay, forestay and other places you normally can't reach. I have been up my forestay in a chair to check the joins in my foil. Just wear a harness and clip a short loop around the foil. Use the jib or spinnaker halyard for someone to haul you up. |
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On Jul 30, 2:05*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:56:43 +0200, "Edgar" wrote: wrote in message .. . One additional advantage I haven't mentioned is that unlike mast steps, or being hauled up in a traditional chair, is that by attaching the bottom of the static line to various points on deck, you can also do things like access stuff all along the backstay, forestay and other places you normally can't reach. I have been up my forestay in a chair to check the joins in my foil. Just wear a harness and clip a short loop around the foil. Use the jib or spinnaker halyard for someone to haul you up. The main difference is that I don't need anyone else. The limits of mast steps are obvious. I also don't risk kinking the foil. GAWD I hate Etriers, dangle and thrash and friggin difficult to climb and then they twist, almost worse'n a cable ladder. Look into vertical caving gear, you'll find something cheaper and easier to use. |
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On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:08:57 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: On Jul 30, 2:05*pm, wrote: On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:56:43 +0200, "Edgar" wrote: wrote in message .. . One additional advantage I haven't mentioned is that unlike mast steps, or being hauled up in a traditional chair, is that by attaching the bottom of the static line to various points on deck, you can also do things like access stuff all along the backstay, forestay and other places you normally can't reach. I have been up my forestay in a chair to check the joins in my foil. Just wear a harness and clip a short loop around the foil. Use the jib or spinnaker halyard for someone to haul you up. The main difference is that I don't need anyone else. The limits of mast steps are obvious. I also don't risk kinking the foil. GAWD I hate Etriers, dangle and thrash and friggin difficult to climb and then they twist, almost worse'n a cable ladder. Look into vertical caving gear, you'll find something cheaper and easier to use. As I pointed out, I built my own substitute for etriers that I find vastly superior. My setup has flat footboards that would allow me to comfortably go up barefoot if I so desired. One other big advantage over a conventional bosuns chair and being cranked aloft is that I can stand on the stirrups and be positioned over the top of the mast looking down. Makes working on items such as the wind instrument a LOT easier. You can actually see what you are working on, which some people find to be an advantage. |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:08:57 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 30, 2:05 pm, wrote: On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:56:43 +0200, "Edgar" wrote: wrote in message .. . One additional advantage I haven't mentioned is that unlike mast steps, or being hauled up in a traditional chair, is that by attaching the bottom of the static line to various points on deck, you can also do things like access stuff all along the backstay, forestay and other places you normally can't reach. I have been up my forestay in a chair to check the joins in my foil. Just wear a harness and clip a short loop around the foil. Use the jib or spinnaker halyard for someone to haul you up. The main difference is that I don't need anyone else. The limits of mast steps are obvious. I also don't risk kinking the foil. GAWD I hate Etriers, dangle and thrash and friggin difficult to climb and then they twist, almost worse'n a cable ladder. Look into vertical caving gear, you'll find something cheaper and easier to use. As I pointed out, I built my own substitute for etriers that I find vastly superior. My setup has flat footboards that would allow me to comfortably go up barefoot if I so desired. One other big advantage over a conventional bosuns chair and being cranked aloft is that I can stand on the stirrups and be positioned over the top of the mast looking down. Makes working on items such as the wind instrument a LOT easier. You can actually see what you are working on, which some people find to be an advantage. Sounds like my setup. My method of getting up the mast is similar to the $400 ATN, but costs next to nothing in additional kit - just some ends of rope and prusik knots. I learned the hard way that you definitely need something other than plain loops for your feet. -- Alisdair http://sailing.agurney.com/ |
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