On Jul 19, 2:25*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

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And just what do you STILL fail to understand about the virtue of a
*balanced* sailplan?

Anytime a real sailor sees a yacht proceeding under main alone or under
jib
alone it tells a tale of ineptitude.

Wilbur Hubbard

Balanced sailplan??? In increasingly gusty conditions that had us
putting the genny to bed minutes later? Where are we headed and why?
What is the VMG? Better still, what is wrong with our VMG? When your
sailplan IS unbalanced when exactly should you take action and why?

Because you really can't answer ANY of these questions relavent to the
video clip, why embarrass yourself again and again? In 40 minutes crew
will be here and you'll still be scratching yourself and planning your
evening of TV.

RB
35s5
NY

An unbalanced sailplan requires the rudder (and helmsman) to work harder
trying to counteract the unbalanced forces on the keel. It reduces
efficiency. It makes it harder to maneuver efficiently and safely.
Increasingly gusty conditions require smaller *sails*. Reef the mainsail AND
change to a smaller headsail if the winds pipe up so much that your existing
sail area is too large. This will maintain a balanced sailplan for the
conditions at hand and will keep the rudder working at maximum efficiency
with reduced effort.

Any FOOL who strikes the headsail because it decides to blow about 20 knots
and operates under mainsail alone is no sailor. If your stupid, wind-up
genny is overpowered then wind the damned thin up about halfway and this
will reduce your sail area. Isn't that supposed to be one of the benefits of
the abominations? Along with this you should take a reef in on the mainsail.
The fact of the matter is a sloop sailing under main alone in brisk winds
will have excessive weather helm and reduced helm control. If you haven't
learned these simple facts in the ten years or so you've been trying to
learn to sail then you're just plain stupid and hopeless.

Sometime when you have some spare time at home on the computer try looking
up a couple of sailing yacht terms.

1) center of effort
2) center of lateral resistance

Then try as best you can with that defective brain of yours to apply the
concepts to an unbalanced sailplan. *Dope!

Wilbur Hubbard




Hilarious...Here I sit aboard my boat and the guy watching re-runs of
the Facts of Life is trying to sound important.

You have NO CLUE about sailing a fractional rig like ours...that much
is obvious. One of the benefits of such a rig is that you can roll the
genny and sail along quite nicely under the big main...which is
exactly what we did at a very comfortable 5 knots. Which children
aboard this is a huge advantage over most mastheads. A 35s5 does just
sail well under main alone, it sails GREAT. While other boats fell off
and struggled we passed Hart Island within an hour.

Like I said....you are CLUELESS.

A real sailor (which you will never be) chooses the right set for
conditions and crew. You have demonstrated, by ignoring both, that you
are not a real sailor. Oh...and the "optimal" set would have been a
reefed main and the blade, but you're too ignorant to do anything more
than suggest roller-reefing the genny, which is far from optimal when
pointing.

CLUELESS is what you are. Before even suggesting anything anyone with
half a brain would have asked what the conditions were overall, who
was aboard and what the sail inventory was. But fool that you are you
made a load of ASS-sumptions and now you're knee deep in your own
idiocy.

But the best part? Winds are light now at about 7-8 knots, but
building and I'm going sailing after I shut this notebook!

Have fun, LUBBER LOSER! Real sailors actually go SAILING! Enjoy the
movie!

Bwahahahahhahahhahahhahhaha!



RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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You have NO CLUE about sailing a fractional rig like ours...that much
is obvious. One of the benefits of such a rig is that you can roll the
genny and sail along quite nicely under the big main...which is
exactly what we did at a very comfortable 5 knots. Which children
aboard this is a huge advantage over most mastheads. A 35s5 does just
sail well under main alone, it sails GREAT. While other boats fell off
and struggled we passed Hart Island within an hour.


While a fractional rig might well have the mast placed a little further
forward it is STILL designed to be balanced under BOTH mainsail and jib. The
center of effort is still brought forward with respect to the center of
lateral resistance by virtue of the jib or genoa being part of the sailplan.

When you savage the sailplan by striking the genoa you savage the balance of
the yacht and you impart more weather helm by virtue of the fact that you
have moved the center of effort aft compared to the center of lateral
resistance.

I don't give a hoot about your silly fractional rig other than the fact that
it is still a sloop and a sloop is designed to sail with BOTH sails drawing.
Get a clue, loser!

Wilbur Hubbard

On Jul 19, 4:14 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

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You have NO CLUE about sailing a fractional rig like ours...that much
is obvious. One of the benefits of such a rig is that you can roll the
genny and sail along quite nicely under the big main...which is
exactly what we did at a very comfortable 5 knots. Which children
aboard this is a huge advantage over most mastheads. A 35s5 does just
sail well under main alone, it sails GREAT. While other boats fell off
and struggled we passed Hart Island within an hour.

While a fractional rig might well have the mast placed a little further
forward it is STILL designed to be balanced under BOTH mainsail and jib. The
center of effort is still brought forward with respect to the center of
lateral resistance by virtue of the jib or genoa being part of the sailplan.

When you savage the sailplan by striking the genoa you savage the balance of
the yacht and you impart more weather helm by virtue of the fact that you
have moved the center of effort aft compared to the center of lateral
resistance.

I don't give a hoot about your silly fractional rig other than the fact that
it is still a sloop and a sloop is designed to sail with BOTH sails drawing.
Get a clue, loser!

Wilbur Hubbard




Oh....I think everyone else thought that you can fly the boat with
VARIOUS sails and combinations....such as genoa alone, main alone,
main + Genoa + drifter or just a storm sail and so on.....

We had NO IDEA that you can't sail a sloop with just one sail! I guess
that's why J-Boats actually talk about that ability in their
marketing...because YOU think it's wrong!

Dude....you busted yourself SO BADLY. You still never answered a
single question about VMG or course because you're clueless. Even your
comment about the longevity of the sail was wrong! Do you even know
what type of Kevlar I'm flying?

We had another great sail while you posted and downloaded episodes of
Deep Space 9! Let us know if you ever actually go sailing...and maybe
you can post a pic to prove it...without a bent boom!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVmrrR4_eo4

RB
35s5
NY