"jeff" wrote in message
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Capt. Rob wrote:

Check out the now NEARLY complete website for a 1990 Beneteau First
35s5...Lots more info, pics and video!

http://heartofgold35s5.synthasite.com/

Hey Bob, I wasn't just trolling when I questioned you on the phrase
"United States Coast Guard inspected vessel." This has a very specific
meaning and since HofG is almost certainly not an "inspected vessel," you
put yourself at risk by claiming to visitors that it is. There are
numerous safety requirements that are rather difficult for a smaller boat
to meet - many are immediately obvious to any observer, such as larger
lifelines and prominent labeling.

Since you need a Master's License to command an Inspected Vessel, one
might assume you're also claiming to have such a license. Add to this
your requirement that guests bring supplies beyond their personal needs,
which means they are "passengers for hire." Your wording this as a
"requirement" crosses the line of even the more liberal interpretation of
that reg. Considering all of this, you could be in serious trouble if
someone got hurt.


I looked into getting my boat up to "inspected vessel" status. It would have
been quite a hassle, with a lengthy list of things to change. This was right
at the time I got my original OUPV. My mentor basically talked me out of it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Capt. JG wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message
...
Capt. Rob wrote:
Check out the now NEARLY complete website for a 1990 Beneteau First
35s5...Lots more info, pics and video!

http://heartofgold35s5.synthasite.com/

Hey Bob, I wasn't just trolling when I questioned you on the phrase
"United States Coast Guard inspected vessel." This has a very specific
meaning and since HofG is almost certainly not an "inspected vessel," you
put yourself at risk by claiming to visitors that it is. There are
numerous safety requirements that are rather difficult for a smaller boat
to meet - many are immediately obvious to any observer, such as larger
lifelines and prominent labeling.

Since you need a Master's License to command an Inspected Vessel, one
might assume you're also claiming to have such a license. Add to this
your requirement that guests bring supplies beyond their personal needs,
which means they are "passengers for hire." Your wording this as a
"requirement" crosses the line of even the more liberal interpretation of
that reg. Considering all of this, you could be in serious trouble if
someone got hurt.


I looked into getting my boat up to "inspected vessel" status. It would have
been quite a hassle, with a lengthy list of things to change. This was right
at the time I got my original OUPV. My mentor basically talked me out of it.


I went through the same thinking when I got the PDQ. At first the
conversion didn't seem that onerous, but then I happened a take a trip
on a 50' cat that was Inspected and realized how difficult it would be
for a smaller boat to conform. All of those nice safety things on ferry
boats, like prominent labeling, and extra overboard gear, etc are all
part of the regs. Even if it were possible, it wouldn't be pretty!

RB assumes that because he had a "safety inspection" he is entitled to
declare his boat an "Inspected Vessel." Always the Used Car Salesman
mentality.

"jeff" wrote in message
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RB assumes that because he had a "safety inspection" he is entitled to
declare his boat an "Inspected Vessel." Always the Used Car Salesman
mentality.

Oh, I suppose he's "entitled" to declare his boat an "Inspected Vessel," if
he wants. He's also entitled to be dragged into court over it, where he
would probably lose. But it's a free country, more or less. He can do what
he likes until a court order stops him. A civil suit would be the least of
his worries.

--
KLC Lewis
www.KLCLewisStudios.com
www.cafepress.com/tmen
www.zazzle.com/klclewis
www.skreened.com/tmen

jeff wrote:

RB assumes that because he had a "safety inspection" he is entitled to
declare his boat an "Inspected Vessel." Always the Used Car Salesman
mentality.


I wouldn't sweat it, it's just more of Bob's bs. Think about it,
"inspected by a Coast Guard Captain",, I doubt that Bob realizes that
Capt. in the Coast Guard is a far more lofty rank than a Capt. in the
Army, equivalent of a full Colonel. What the hell would the Coast Guard
be doing using three private boats for anyway? The liability issues
alone would likely prevent such folly. Of course Bob could post a nice
clear PDF of this "Inspection Certificate", one that clearly shows the
name of the inspecting officer, his rank and his Station....

If it's legit we could easily contact the Station in question and find
out about getting this nifty inspection ourselves....

Cheers
Martin

"jeff" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message
...
Capt. Rob wrote:
Check out the now NEARLY complete website for a 1990 Beneteau First
35s5...Lots more info, pics and video!

http://heartofgold35s5.synthasite.com/

Hey Bob, I wasn't just trolling when I questioned you on the phrase
"United States Coast Guard inspected vessel." This has a very specific
meaning and since HofG is almost certainly not an "inspected vessel,"
you put yourself at risk by claiming to visitors that it is. There are
numerous safety requirements that are rather difficult for a smaller
boat to meet - many are immediately obvious to any observer, such as
larger lifelines and prominent labeling.

Since you need a Master's License to command an Inspected Vessel, one
might assume you're also claiming to have such a license. Add to this
your requirement that guests bring supplies beyond their personal needs,
which means they are "passengers for hire." Your wording this as a
"requirement" crosses the line of even the more liberal interpretation
of that reg. Considering all of this, you could be in serious trouble
if someone got hurt.


I looked into getting my boat up to "inspected vessel" status. It would
have been quite a hassle, with a lengthy list of things to change. This
was right at the time I got my original OUPV. My mentor basically talked
me out of it.


I went through the same thinking when I got the PDQ. At first the
conversion didn't seem that onerous, but then I happened a take a trip on
a 50' cat that was Inspected and realized how difficult it would be for a
smaller boat to conform. All of those nice safety things on ferry boats,
like prominent labeling, and extra overboard gear, etc are all part of the
regs. Even if it were possible, it wouldn't be pretty!

RB assumes that because he had a "safety inspection" he is entitled to
declare his boat an "Inspected Vessel." Always the Used Car Salesman
mentality.


I won't comment on RB. The onerous stuff for me was the realization of
having to change the lifelines and find a place for the safety gear. I've
got some of the labeling in place, because I think it helps people who
charter feel secure, just like I have some labels on lines.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Wow...

A typical CG inspection is often done at our marina since they keep
two of their small boats with us. The Aux. members usually go aboard
and take about 20 minutes. It's VERY basic. Correct fire
extinguishers? Y Valve for head wired to holding tank position? Horn
and life vests? Like I said, the basics. When it's over you get a nice
CG white & red sticker saying your vessel passed/complies.

Now...a Coast Guard captain came to the marina and wanted a couple of
boats to "volunteer" for the inspections, which were part of some sort
of training program. My boat was hauled. He and his "students" were
aboard looking at everything from the rigging to the bilge. Oh...and
yes, I did get something out of it besides a nice certificate.

No, I won't post a PDF since I have nothing to prove nor am I required
to prove anything. The goofballs here can spin their wheels while I
sail and the thin grasp of what's legal in my claims is truly
hilarious. Court order? Everyone hold their breath!

New on Heart of Gold this year!

1) New lifelines
2) New lazy jacks
3) New Drifter
4) New 140% genoa
5) New Canton speaker system
6) New twin screen LCD TV system


Cheers.


RB
35s5
NY

Excellent trolling there Capt Rob!

You haven't lost your touch one bit!

In only a matter of a few weeks you'll have them all jumping and biting at
empty hooks, just like you did at ASA!

You are certainly one of the most masterful trolls I've ever seen!

Bwahahahahahahahaha!

You'll be captain of this group in no time!

Ahahahahahaha!

Give them all the beatings they deserve!

Hehehehehehe!

I'll be watching and laughing!

Give them all the beatings they deserve!

Hehehehehehe!

I'll be watching and laughing!




I must admit...I've been gone for a while, but most of these fish
haven't learned a thing. Quite amazing.

But what happened to Scotty and Katy and especially dear Loco?



RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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But what happened to Scotty and Katy and especially dear Loco?


I think Scotty is involved with the grandkids, Katy won the lottery and
moved to the South Pacific and Loco is still locked in the trunk of his
Lincoln.

It's great to hear you're out single handed in rough weather. All that
experience of sailing 3+ days a week is really starting to add up. Are you
going to get your captains license? It should be pretty easy for someone
with your depth of experience probably just a little book reading on your
part and you'll ace the test. That license may come in handy for the next
few boats you are considering getting. I bet Suzanne could get that license
too. You two could do summer long charters, what a life experience for
Thomas! I hope he realizes he has the best parents in the world! Does Thomas
have his own boat yet?

Capt. Rob wrote:

No, I won't post a PDF since I have nothing to prove nor am I required
to prove anything.


In other words, "I made it up, as usual."

Cheers
Martin