How come stainless cable is more than six times as costly as
galvanized, yet nobody uses the galvanized. Stainless the same size
has about 80% of the breaking strength. Galvanized is what they guy
power poles with.

Casady

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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How come stainless cable is more than six times as costly as
galvanized, yet nobody uses the galvanized. Stainless the same size
has about 80% of the breaking strength. Galvanized is what they guy
power poles with.

Casady


Duh. Galvanized wire rusts after a season or two in a salt water
environment. (Anchor chain is galvanized and it rusts after a season or
two.) Run bronze hanks up and down a galvanized headstay for a season and
the zinc wears off.

Galvanized rigging is an anachronism.

Wilbur Hubbard

(Richard Casady) wrote in
:

How come stainless cable is more than six times as costly as
galvanized, yet nobody uses the galvanized. Stainless the same size
has about 80% of the breaking strength. Galvanized is what they guy
power poles with.

Casady


Same reason they're using Chrome-plated winches and windlasses that cost 10
times what one painted haze grey costs.....VANITY....

Why are fiberglass boats loaded up with WOOD you have to constantly sand
and varnish that rots so easily, when we have some space-age plastics you
can't destroy in 24,000 years??! Same idea.....

Richard Casady wrote:
How come stainless cable is more than six times as costly as
galvanized, yet nobody uses the galvanized. Stainless the same size
has about 80% of the breaking strength. Galvanized is what they guy
power poles with.

Casady

The congenitally cheap (not to mention me) join the work boat riggers in
choosing galvanized, often enough....

Brian W

Richard Casady wrote:
How come stainless cable is more than six times as costly as
galvanized, yet nobody uses the galvanized. Stainless the same size
has about 80% of the breaking strength. Galvanized is what they guy
power poles with.

Casady


Well, the price differential isn't that high, if you don't buy SS wire
that is preceded by the six most expensive letters in the English
alphabet; M A R I N E.

The basic material is more costly, and great deal more galvanized is
used throughout the world, cranes, tow cable, highway restraint cable,
antenna guys, drilling derricks......etc.


Properly cared for galvanized will out last steel, take an old boat
restoration class or two, ignore Wilbur/Neal, he knows nothing about boats.

Cheers
Martin

Marty wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
How come stainless cable is more than six times as costly as
galvanized, yet nobody uses the galvanized. Stainless the same size
has about 80% of the breaking strength. Galvanized is what they guy
power poles with.

Casady


Well, the price differential isn't that high, if you don't buy SS wire
that is preceded by the six most expensive letters in the English
alphabet; M A R I N E.

The basic material is more costly, and great deal more galvanized is
used throughout the world, cranes, tow cable, highway restraint cable,
antenna guys, drilling derricks......etc.


Properly cared for galvanized will out last steel, take an old boat
restoration class or two, ignore Wilbur/Neal, he knows nothing about boats.

Cheers
Martin

Bernard Boitessier rigged Joshua with galvanized wire and wood poles.
Worked for him. Not exactly light or pretty but worked.

hpeer wrote:


Properly cared for galvanized will out last steel, take an old boat
restoration class or two, ignore Wilbur/Neal, he knows nothing about
boats.

Cheers
Martin

Bernard Boitessier rigged Joshua with galvanized wire and wood poles.
Worked for him. Not exactly light or pretty but worked.

Indeed, check out the great sailing vessels of the end of the 19th
century and early 20th, some of which are still plying the seas.

Cheers
Martin

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:29:43 -0500, Marty wrote:

Indeed, check out the great sailing vessels of the end of the 19th
century

Hitler built three tall ships, for Naval officer training. The USCG
has one they renamed Eagle. The other two are still around. There is a
tall ship in Stockholm that is now a Youth Hostel Stayed there in 69.
The Af Chapman. It had been a training ship as well as a freighter.

Casady

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:46:11 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

How come stainless cable is more than six times as costly as
galvanized, yet nobody uses the galvanized. Stainless the same size
has about 80% of the breaking strength. Galvanized is what they guy
power poles with.

Casady


Basically using galvanized wire rope just takes a LOT more
maintenance, and a LOT more time to build. If you are doing your own
work then perhaps it is more economical, but if you are paying others
the it is doubtful

The first problem comes when you attempt to locate proper heavy duty
thimbles for the eyes. Damned hard to find. Next comes splicing the
eyes in the cables. Again, if you can do it yourself and have the
tools then go for it but if you are paying rigger's rates then get
your wallet ready.

Now you have the cables cut, spliced around proper heavy duty
thimbles. Next step is to worm, parcel and serve all splices and
usually the lower cables up 10 - 15 feet above the deck. Once that is
done you need to mix up some slushing and paint the cables, working it
well into the wrappings.

Now! At last, you can rig the boat. But remember that annually you
will need to inspect, replace worn wrappings and re-slush all the
cables and slushing is a mixture of tar, oil, Japan dryer and various
other arcane substances. (think roofing tar) so don't even begin to
think about slushing down the rigging while in a marina slip as you
will sprinkle not only your deck but your neighbor's decks with
sticky, black, tarry gunk.

Now, having said all that you might be interested that properly
maintained galvanized rigging will out last stainless.

Cheers,

Bruce

On Feb 9, 10:35 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:46:11 GMT, (Richard

Casady) wrote:
How come stainless cable is more than six times as costly as
galvanized, yet nobody uses the galvanized. Stainless the same size
has about 80% of the breaking strength. Galvanized is what they guy
power poles with.

Casady

Basically using galvanized wire rope just takes a LOT more
maintenance, and a LOT more time to build. If you are doing your own
work then perhaps it is more economical, but if you are paying others
the it is doubtful

The first problem comes when you attempt to locate proper heavy duty
thimbles for the eyes. Damned hard to find. Next comes splicing the
eyes in the cables. Again, if you can do it yourself and have the
tools then go for it but if you are paying rigger's rates then get
your wallet ready.

Now you have the cables cut, spliced around proper heavy duty
thimbles. Next step is to worm, parcel and serve all splices and
usually the lower cables up 10 - 15 feet above the deck. Once that is
done you need to mix up some slushing and paint the cables, working it
well into the wrappings.

Now! At last, you can rig the boat. But remember that annually you
will need to inspect, replace worn wrappings and re-slush all the
cables and slushing is a mixture of tar, oil, Japan dryer and various
other arcane substances. (think roofing tar) so don't even begin to
think about slushing down the rigging while in a marina slip as you
will sprinkle not only your deck but your neighbor's decks with
sticky, black, tarry gunk.

Now, having said all that you might be interested that properly
maintained galvanized rigging will out last stainless.

Cheers,

Bruce

Bruce where the hell do you get that idea? spend a couple pennies more
and get the better galv.
you just described what i do to my standing rigging and mine is all
manella and hemp. yes with proper care galv will out last SS but the
level of care is not serving the bloody thing. you soak the cable warm
for a bit till the grave penetrates the core and then gravy the
outside about twice a year.